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spainrico Oct 3rd 2024 6:26 pm

Bin Charges To Set To Soar Throughout Spain In 2025
 
Bin Charges Set To Soar Throughout Spain In 2025 - I was only thinking this week that the IBI payments were the same as last year and never seem to go up....

https://murciatoday.com/bin-charges-...0136109-a.html

Rosemary Oct 3rd 2024 6:42 pm

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Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 13278725)
Bin Charges Set To Soar Throughout Spain In 2025 - I was only thinking this week that the IBI payments were the same as last year and never seem to go up....

https://murciatoday.com/bin-charges-...0136109-a.html

Nice of you to admit that it is your fault. Your thoughts are obviously very powerful. Please stop thinking about things not going up and start thinking about reductions instead.

Rosemary

Lynn R Oct 3rd 2024 7:08 pm

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My IBI bill HAS actually been reduced by a very small amount in each of the last 3 years, and is now 9% lower than it was in 2017 when I bought this property, because the previous local administration voted to do so. My Ayuntamiento has never charged a separate amount for basura (well not in the 18 years I've lived here, anyway). I have read in the press, however, that from 2025 they will be forced to do so, because of the new regulations explained in Spainrico's link. I have not seen any information whatsoever issued by the Ayuntamiento, though, about what is going to happen next year.

I've found a local news item from yesterday but basically it's just the PSOE looking to score political points about it, still don't have any information about when the new separate tax will be levied or how much it is likely to be.

tasa de basura en Vélez-Málaga (diarioaxarquia.com)

spainrico Oct 3rd 2024 7:11 pm

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Please believe me Rosemary - I do try!

My issue is I live alone but have to pay the same amount as a family. Thoughts anyone?

Notdunroamin Oct 3rd 2024 7:12 pm

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I put my rubbish out by my gate and it's collected at around 8am daily at no charge.

Another advantage of living in a park home, no IBI or any of that malarkey either, tee he he :thumbsup:

spainrico Oct 3rd 2024 7:16 pm

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But surely there is a community (?) fee which includes the charges for rubbish collection and all other overheads.

DLC Oct 3rd 2024 8:13 pm

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In Catalonia there's already a rubbish tax (tasa por gestión de residuos), I think most if not all municipalities in Catalonia charge it.

But this is Catalonia and la pela es la pela.

1sexsmith Oct 3rd 2024 8:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Notdunroamin (Post 13278732)
I put my rubbish out by my gate and it's collected at around 8am daily at no charge.

Another advantage of living in a park home, no IBI or any of that malarkey either, tee he he :thumbsup:


But the campsite must charge you in some form ? It isn't just empty land so of course they are paying then charging you
You might not pay IBI directly but it's just effectively part of your site chanrges
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DLC Oct 3rd 2024 8:23 pm

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Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 13278733)
But surely there is a community (?) fee which includes the charges for rubbish collection and all other overheads.

Unless you're living in an urbanización that organises its own rubbish collection and disposal (not even sure such a thing exists), this is a council service.

Notdunroamin Oct 3rd 2024 8:55 pm

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Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 13278733)
But surely there is a community (?) fee which includes the charges for rubbish collection and all other overheads.

No, I pay my ground rent and not a penny more. If there are any fees they are included in that.

Notdunroamin Oct 3rd 2024 9:22 pm

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Originally Posted by 1sexsmith (Post 13278740)
But the campsite must charge you in some form ? It isn't just empty land so of course they are paying then charging you
You might not pay IBI directly but it's just effectively part of your site chanrges
​​​

I neither know nor care about the composition of my ground rent however due to the fact that Park homes are not considered as 'property' and have neither cadastral entry nor cadastral value they therefore do not attract IBI as bricks and mortar do.
Furthermore they have no deeds and can be bought and sold without the involvement of the legal profession or any government agency. If I were selling somebody could come to my door, make me an acceptable offer, make a bank transfer on the spot, and that would be the end of it!

For many, like us in out latter years and with children to consider, that is an extremely valuable factor as on our deaths it completely removes them from any involvement whatsoever with Spanish bureaucracy when selling the home. In it's simplest form they could tell the site owner to sell the home on their behalf and just send them the proceeds, no waiting for Spain to grant probate etc. or engage a layer to act for them.

BTW, it's not a campsite, that implies plots for short term rent and transient visitors. My site is wholly residential with subletting prohibited so is more akin to a small private housing estate.

1sexsmith Oct 3rd 2024 11:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Notdunroamin (Post 13278754)
I neither know nor care about the composition of my ground rent however due to the fact that Park homes are not considered as 'property' and have neither cadastral entry nor cadastral value they therefore do not attract IBI as bricks and mortar do.
Furthermore they have no deeds and can be bought and sold without the involvement of the legal profession or any government agency. If I were selling somebody could come to my door, make me an acceptable offer, make a bank transfer on the spot, and that would be the end of it!

For many, like us in out latter years and with children to consider, that is an extremely valuable factor as on our deaths it completely removes them from any involvement whatsoever with Spanish bureaucracy when selling the home. In it's simplest form they could tell the site owner to sell the home on their behalf and just send them the proceeds, no waiting for Spain to grant probate etc. or engage a layer to act for them.

BTW, it's not a campsite, that implies plots for short term rent and transient visitors. My site is wholly residential with subletting prohibited so is more akin to a small private housing estate.

So you pay a rent that goes to the owner who pays tax for the land. What are you getting for free?

Barriej Oct 3rd 2024 11:38 pm

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We have a separate charge for the rubbish collection. I think it's about €180 a year and we get six collections a week in winter and seven in summer.
The contract is given to a company who had to bid based on a five year plan, we are in the second year so I won't see any increases for at least three years.
I think it's good value to be honest as my son gets one bin emptied every two weeks in Shoreham by Sea.

It could double as far as I'm concerned as long as the service remains the same.

NABman Oct 4th 2024 5:19 pm

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We pay a separate bin (basuras) tax, €24 a year, which is remarkable considering the house refuse is collected daily and recycling, depending on season, might be daily or slightly less frequent.


spainrico Oct 16th 2024 7:36 pm

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Just had an announcement about this from our local town hall - the highlights of which are:-

"The mandatory application of Law 7/2022 requires municipalities throughout Spain to transfer the real cost of the garbage collection and management service to property owners.

Before April 2025, the new state-wide fee established by Law 7/2022 on waste management must be implemented, which is mandatory in all municipalities.

This Law is a transposition of the European Directives on Waste Management. These European Directives develop the sustainability and climate change objectives of the 2030 Agenda.

Faced with this European imposition, the aim is to recycle more and have less waste."

So we can blame the EU - tome for Spexit? No let's not go there!

bobd22 Oct 16th 2024 7:59 pm

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Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 13280757)
Just had an announcement about this from our local town hall - the highlights of which are:-

"The mandatory application of Law 7/2022 requires municipalities throughout Spain to transfer the real cost of the garbage collection and management service to property owners.

Before April 2025, the new state-wide fee established by Law 7/2022 on waste management must be implemented, which is mandatory in all municipalities.

This Law is a transposition of the European Directives on Waste Management. These European Directives develop the sustainability and climate change objectives of the 2030 Agenda.

Faced with this European imposition, the aim is to recycle more and have less waste."

So we can blame the EU - tome for Spexit? No let's not go there!

​​​​​​I recently received my quarterly bill for basura water etc from the ayuntamiento and it has overall gone up around 18 euros. Everything thing seems to have gone up a bit not just the basura .

bfg69bug Oct 27th 2024 9:26 pm

Re: Bin Charges To Set To Soar Throughout Spain In 2025
 

Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 13278725)
Bin Charges Set To Soar Throughout Spain In 2025 - I was only thinking this week that the IBI payments were the same as last year and never seem to go up....

https://murciatoday.com/bin-charges-...0136109-a.html

Its a shame the wages dont increase to cover everything thats going up

Lynn R Jan 7th 2025 11:40 pm

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My Ayuntamiento have announced that they won't be charging the new rubbish collection tax in 2025. Don't know how they're going to get away with that as I thought it was supposed to be compulsory.

Vélez-Málaga no implementará la nueva tasa de basuras en 2025 - AxarquiaPlus

spainrico Jan 8th 2025 1:48 am

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Lucky you! And yes I thought it was compulsory as well - has your barrio left the EU!! (who originated it)

growinspain Jan 8th 2025 2:54 am

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13293689)
My Ayuntamiento have announced that they won't be charging the new rubbish collection tax in 2025. Don't know how they're going to get away with that as I thought it was supposed to be compulsory.

Vélez-Málaga no implementará la nueva tasa de basuras en 2025 - AxarquiaPlus

They will not get away with it - they just will not be eligible for any EU funds...

Lynn R Apr 1st 2025 12:29 am

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13293689)
My Ayuntamiento have announced that they won't be charging the new rubbish collection tax in 2025. Don't know how they're going to get away with that as I thought it was supposed to be compulsory.

Vélez-Málaga no implementará la nueva tasa de basuras en 2025 - AxarquiaPlus

The Ayuntamiento have now approved the imposition of the new rubbish collection tax, but it won't be coming in until next year. For the first time they've given some indication of how much it will be - it will vary between €101 and €135 annually per household apparently, but the Council have promised that IBI will be reduced to minimise the impact on residents (we've never had a separate basura charge here, it has been included in the IBI charges). Hmmm, vamos a ver.

El Pleno del Ayuntamiento veleño aprueba dos importantes propuestas para el futuro urbanístico del municipio y da luz verde a la tasa de residuos impuesta por el Gobierno central - AxarquiaPlus

Barriej Apr 1st 2025 2:02 am

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13305506)
The Ayuntamiento have now approved the imposition of the new rubbish collection tax, but it won't be coming in until next year. For the first time they've given some indication of how much it will be - it will vary between €101 and €135 annually per household apparently, but the Council have promised that IBI will be reduced to minimise the impact on residents (we've never had a separate basura charge here, it has been included in the IBI charges). Hmmm, vamos a ver.

El Pleno del Ayuntamiento veleño aprueba dos importantes propuestas para el futuro urbanístico del municipio y da luz verde a la tasa de residuos impuesta por el Gobierno central - AxarquiaPlus

Ours here in Polop has always been seperate.
€377 for our IBI
€167 for the basura.
Neither has been increased in the six years we have owned the flat.
The reason for the separate charges according to the town hall were to do with the collection scheme. We are not on an Urb but in a village attached to the town and our collection is different to the Polop Hills Urb. They decided it was not fair for us to pay as much as the Urb as we have fewer bins.
I prefer it that way as the payments come out of the account at different times of the year.

bobd22 Apr 1st 2025 2:13 am

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13305506)
The Ayuntamiento have now approved the imposition of the new rubbish collection tax, but it won't be coming in until next year. For the first time they've given some indication of how much it will be - it will vary between €101 and €135 annually per household apparently, but the Council have promised that IBI will be reduced to minimise the impact on residents (we've never had a separate basura charge here, it has been included in the IBI charges). Hmmm, vamos a ver.

El Pleno del Ayuntamiento veleño aprueba dos importantes propuestas para el futuro urbanístico del municipio y da luz verde a la tasa de residuos impuesta por el Gobierno central - AxarquiaPlus

we have always had a quarterly bill from the village ayuntamiento for Basura , water and i think sewage ? It gives the charge for each part separately, the basura one has gone up in last few months. We then also pay the annual IBI bill as well.

Lynn R Apr 1st 2025 2:24 am

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Originally Posted by Barriej (Post 13305523)
Ours here in Polop has always been seperate.
€377 for our IBI
€167 for the basura.
Neither has been increased in the six years we have owned the flat.
The reason for the separate charges according to the town hall were to do with the collection scheme. We are not on an Urb but in a village attached to the town and our collection is different to the Polop Hills Urb. They decided it was not fair for us to pay as much as the Urb as we have fewer bins.
I prefer it that way as the payments come out of the account at different times of the year.

My IBI bill last year was €432 (they reduced it by 3% in each of the last 3 years so it was 9% lower than when we bought the flat in 2017) - that included basura. We're in the centre of a large town. I'm not bothered about having separate bills that come out of the account at different times as long as the overall amount doesn't go up too much!

spainrico Apr 1st 2025 2:28 am

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This article says only towns with more than 5000 inhabitants will have to pay...

https://spanishnewstoday.com/new_rub...0201000-a.html

Find that hard to believe - I am sure we had a message a while ago from our town hall about this and we are less than 5000 by a long way!

snikpoh Apr 1st 2025 4:22 am

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13305528)
My IBI bill last year was €432 (they reduced it by 3% in each of the last 3 years so it was 9% lower than when we bought the flat in 2017) - that included basura. We're in the centre of a large town. I'm not bothered about having separate bills that come out of the account at different times as long as the overall amount doesn't go up too much!

We pay 3 bills here - IBI, basura and a 3rd one for waste water etc. all paid annually. When they split the basura into 2, it double overnight from 79€ to 79€(ish) each. My IBI has remained fairly constant at 1200€

growinspain Apr 1st 2025 9:30 am

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If people would learn to recycle than we would not be having these increases...

tebo53 Apr 1st 2025 10:37 am

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I rent in Benidorm, I don't pay IBI and my separate basura bill has always been €112 per annum since I came here in 2014.

Steve

PoloMarco Apr 1st 2025 7:40 pm

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13305607)
If people would learn to recycle than we would not be having these increases...

Not always the case… our municipality implemented a big recycling initiative and if things are to believed achieving high percentage of recycling. Given the usual disaster in the basura casita with wrong type waste in the wrong container :banghead: I’m sceptical that they just weigh general waste compared to weight of recycled waste.
To achieve this initiative the cost of basura increased significantly now €136pa.

DLC Apr 3rd 2025 9:03 am

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It's the lorry which weighs the container so... yes.

spainrico Apr 10th 2025 11:25 pm

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My pueblo (less than 1000 people) has raised the basura tax from 58€ to 90€ p.a. - just had the official notification from SUMA (the Alicante agency that collects these taxes)

Notdunroamin Apr 11th 2025 6:21 am

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Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 13278731)
My issue is I live alone but have to pay the same amount as a family. Thoughts anyone?

Yes, life isn't always fair unfortunately, or linear.

i.e. a single person won't necessarily produce 50% - or less - of the rubbish a couple might any more than a family of four might produce 4x or six 6x etc. etc.

spainrico Apr 11th 2025 7:33 pm

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Yes my thought is it is a rip off but nothing we can do as far as I know...

bobd22 Sep 11th 2025 10:13 pm

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Just had my quarterly bill for services the bill has increased by nearly a third the increase is on basura. Mind you if you had up the annual total and add on annual IBI it is at least £1200 cheaper than council tax I was paying in UK.

spainrico Sep 13th 2025 2:22 am

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Yes that is always a way of cheering up!


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