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The report many of us have been waiting to read to help put a sock in it
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...n-der-leyen-eu

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I know a girl from Colombia who had her residency application rejected about a month ago and she also was given 15 days to leave Spain.

Soon it might sink into the heads of expats you do not get special treatment.

Looks like it's the banana boat home for expats who voted for brexit and now find they have become illegals!

No sympathy whatsoever!

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So. If you cannot prove you were living a normal day to day life in Spain to get residency I see no problem here, you obviously applied cause at some point you wanted to be here permanently without actually being here. (there was a thread here or the other place about a family who arrived early Dec for a week and then left because they had nobody to look after their dog in the UK were refused residency because none of their paperwork was from 2020) Oh they had a rental contract...

The report however (like most Uk newspapers these days) does not give a source for the 'report' or even provides a link to it so educated people (not me) can fact check...
And then contradicts itself (which is why I never read newspapers)

It states that failure to achieve residency will mean leaving within 15 days or be classed as illegals.
And yet further down it states that you will be allowed to stay while your appeal is in progress. So will you have to leave and process your appeal from the UK??????

I'd also like to see how you can get a backdated private healthcare certificate legally if you didn't have it in the first place (and if you did have healthcare your bank and the provider would give receipts) So your residency application might not have been rejected.
Don't get me started on the padron argument either.
And if you cannot show regular in's and out's on your bank account (because you have to submit a copy of the last 3 months statements if applying via Alicante)
It is obvious to a blind mans dog you weren't actually living here. :)

Im guessing this is scaremongering.
And the final paragraph gave me the biggest laugh of the day (thanks)

“It’s scary stuff when you consider that British applicants might have sold up in the UK to buy their dream home here, shipped all their furniture and belongings over and their pets – what do they do?”

Well what they should have done, was do everything legally in time before 31st December 2020 so they could prove that they were living here under the conditions set out by Spain to receive residency...

I know of one couple who have been here for around 10 years and are still not legally resident, because they didn't even have the €9000 in the bank to comply with Alicante's requirements last year, they also cannot afford healthcare and still drive on a UK licence.
We told them to become resident originally about 3 months after the B vote but they didn't listen as they thought nothing would change.

They are a nice couple and only in their mid 60's but I have no sympathy for them at all....

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Its not just for people who voted for Brexit. Its any idiot who thought life would continue as was.
I suppose as we were contemplating moving originally around 4 years ago, I realised that the Uk would become a 3rd country (and I have a Canadian friend who lives here so I know what he went through).
So when we did move I ensured we fulfilled the requirements.

BUT too many either didn't bother to find out what their position would be, or more likely just stuck their heads in the sand.
The couple I mentioned in my last post are remainers and voted as such and they are not legal here.
Please don't tar Brexit voters as one block, there are idiots everywhere.

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My level of sympathy would depend on how they voted in the referendum.

It's UK nationals who want to move to EU states from now on that are going to suffer with many of them not meeting the third country criteria. They do have my sympathy if they voted Remain.

I'm in the UK for a week and I noticed fastidious passport stamping for the British when we went through passport control at Malaga. I just sailed through with my wonderful Irish passport but my partner (still British with EU residency) was subjected to questioning but not stamped.

Things are going to be different for the British from now on and not in a positive way.

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Yes, I'll go with that one... Depends how they voted in the referendum... If they voted for Brexit and now are going to be booted out, it is natural justice!

if they voted against Brexit, you do have to feel a bit sorry for them.

Regardless, it was in all the media about the final deadline for applications for residency, so not having your affairs in order, is no excuse!

Brexit was all about racism and anti foreigner sentiment. Brexiteers in Spain who are getting booted out are getting a taste of their own medicine.

I can't even imagine why anyone who voted for Brexit is even still in Spain!!!

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With regard to the article itself, I can only describe it as claptrap!

“Applications are mostly being rejected on the grounds of insufficient evidence of legally residing in Spain in 2020, such as a padrón (town hall registration), medical insurance or other proof people were actually living here before 2021."

Consider the above quote where "medical insurance is referenced. I have private medical insurance and a contract was issued for that medical insurance when I took it out. This is an important document worth keeping a safe place and indisputable proof of having medical insuarance and the document states what date the medical insurance starts. Besides, even if I lost the original contract, the company also have a copy of this medical insurance contract and could send me another copy.

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I agree re your point about people who had voted remain who hoped to move/retire in Spain at a later date after brexit date. However I certainly don't have sympathy for anyone who has been living under the radar in Spain no matter how they voted. They should have been legally resident full stop if living in Spain full time. Certainly since the vote in 2016 people here had ample time to legalise their position if they had done so they would not have stress and worry trying to blame everyone else for their plight. We had our plans scuppered here for various reasons delaying our full time move. After 2016 we had to either get on with it which we did or forget our retirement plan. We made the move and ensured we fully complied, it meant financial sacrifices for my wife but we ensured we were fully compliant to comply with the clear dates set. Yes there were issues due to covid but we managed it and I can't see why anyone else couldn't.

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​​​​​​I agree with your post entirely.

If you hate the EU enough to have voted Leave, don't live in an EU state.

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I'm glad you managed to sort your problems out and move to Spain but for the sake of clarity, my sympathies mostly lie with those who could not move/retire to EU states before the deadline and cannot do so for a number of years. Not everyone can move their plans forward to that extent and therefore find themselves the wrong side of the Brexit trap door and stuck in the UK. The very idea of that terrifies me.
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I think the plan was that Brexit would transform the UK into a latter-day utopia!

Sort of funny that you can't even get a milk shake there any longer due to the supply chain going t**s up and supermarket shelves sitting empty.

Oh yeah, and the Tories just broke two election promises!

Triple lock on pension to be suspended for a year and tax rises!

Welcome to Brexit Britain!

UK has become an apocalyptic nightmare and is facing a complete breakup, as a direct consequence of Breixt!

Both Northern Ireland and Scotland could leave the UK, quite soon....

But I will still go back for fish and chips! Can't beat getting that in the UK! First thing I do every time I go there!

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Personally I’d ban all Brexiteers from setting foot in the EU. The damage to the younger generation is unforgivable. They have no choices without wealthy parents and the children of expats are faced with paying UK university fees of 20K per year.

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The children of expats can go to university in Spain, I suppose.

Relocating to Spain is not as trivial a matter as it once was.

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Yes they can, but before they had a choice. Now they are paying the price of other peoples selfishness

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Yes I totally agree with you.

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Now that would be something😉 but the brexiteers would cry foul claiming their summer holiday is a human right. I bet plenty on here still have visitors from the UK that voted brexit mind. Its not easy as they may well be family or close friends.