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Best places to live in the future
While most people moved to Spain for sun and heat, do you think that will change in the future and we'll see people moving away from dry areas in Spain again? Apart from tanning that has gone in and out of fashion for various reasons, we also have other problems like water scarcity etc.. Of course sun worshippers will boast they have the best climate and won't be bothered as long as they have water, but will it be an issue for future generations and do people actually consider these things?
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Re: Best places to live in the future
We get on average 1500mm annual rainfall, fairly evenly distributed throughout the year, but with less in the hot summer months.
We get hot days, with June to September averaging from 25-29C. I reckon that's ideal, especially for growing most crops. Even the beach lovers are satisfied. We don't really need air-conditioning units either. And we tend not to get forest fires. So, all in all, I reckon we come off miles better than the scorching south. |
Re: Best places to live in the future
Originally Posted by Retired in Euskadi
(Post 12023083)
We get on average 1500mm annual rainfall, fairly evenly distributed throughout the year, but with less in the hot summer months.
We get hot days, with June to September averaging from 25-29C. I reckon that's ideal, especially for growing most crops. Even the beach lovers are satisfied. We don't really need air-conditioning units either. And we tend not to get forest fires. So, all in all, I reckon we come off miles better than the scorching south. I agree and sounds ideal really. Funny enough most people always talk about pensions, property values, their kids future and would consider things like not buying in flood prone areas, but it seems that our generation don't consider droughts to be a problem and increasing heat. If you look back in early history many people actually avoided the sun and excessive heat, then we had the time when people would lay in the sun all day and it couldn't be hot enough. Now it seems that people use sun screen to protect themselves and the next generation might consider your location to be ideal, so in the long run a really good investment with environmental benefits. |
Re: Best places to live in the future
Property values are relatively high here; perhaps a reflection of better job prospects.
You're right to think that water will be a major issue in future. We should always value it and spend money on infrastructures to preserve it; the one benefit that Franco bequeathed Spain was the amount of dams he had built. That's all I'll give him though!! I'd like to think that this area won't succumb to the tourist boom that the south experienced/still experiences. We don't have 'guaranteed' sunshine 24/7, so hopefully that will deter people. If Spain had the money, they might consider piping water from the north to the south, though judging from the almost daily corruption cases in the Spanish media (most of them from the south), best to forget it; the temptation to make a fast buck in concrete would be too great. |
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We live in Moraira and have to say that over the past few years it has become very overcrowded. IMO there must be a limit. All services are stretched to the limit (including Internet!). The beach has become more and more crowded over the years and at some point I think it can't continue in this way before serious problems develop. Surely no resort can continue absorbing more and more visitors. Anyone visiting the town in the evening during the season will be surprised, to say the least, as to how unpleasantly
packed it is. Just a personal opinion of course. |
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Go to Navarra, almost english climate just a few degrees either way, except for the wind..Beautiful countryside, wonderful food, not as expensive as the Euskadi for properties. Certainly not over-crowded and close enough to great beaches if you need them, either Basque coast or into France, about 40 minutes from Pamplona to San Sebastian.Many very pretty villages and attractive small towns.
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Originally Posted by Loafing Along
(Post 12023282)
Go to Navarra, almost english climate just a few degrees either way, except for the wind..Beautiful countryside, wonderful food, not as expensive as the Euskadi for properties. Certainly not over-crowded and close enough to great beaches if you need them, either Basque coast or into France, about 40 minutes from Pamplona to San Sebastian.Many very pretty villages and attractive small towns.
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Maybe Biffta is right. Moraira has become very crowded in the season, but this is not alone in the high season. Maybe we should all decry it as a terrible place to go, but that would not be the truth. Moraira is fantastic. I don't live in it but in the next village. It is far better than Javea in my opinion, and I used to live in Javea until 1997.
The increase in residents, whether full or part time, or even casual visitors, tells me that something is right. What maybe is not so right is the failure of the local authorities to take on board the need to develop facilities during the winter to ease future congestion. Such is the universal failure of councils everywhere. |
Re: Best places to live in the future
Originally Posted by Biffta
(Post 12023286)
Who comes to Spain for an almost English climate!
My point was more about the discussion topic, green, well-watered and not over-populated |
Re: Best places to live in the future
Originally Posted by Loafing Along
(Post 12023282)
Go to Navarra, almost english climate just a few degrees either way, except for the wind..Beautiful countryside, wonderful food, not as expensive as the Euskadi for properties. Certainly not over-crowded and close enough to great beaches if you need them, either Basque coast or into France, about 40 minutes from Pamplona to San Sebastian.Many very pretty villages and attractive small towns.
But don't spread it around too much or the tourist industry will spoil it! |
Re: Best places to live in the future
Originally Posted by Retired in Euskadi
(Post 12023602)
I agree; you have a variety of green and high rainfall in the north to landscape similar to Utah in the south.
But don't spread it around too much or the tourist industry will spoil it! Whilst, obviously, not as green as the north of Spain it is surprisingly green considering the climate. The water for the paddy fields must come from somewhere. |
Re: Best places to live in the future
Originally Posted by Biffta
(Post 12023286)
Who comes to Spain for an almost English climate!
As others have said, some places are already so crowded and they keep building more hotels, but at some point we might reach the stage where these places become so unattractive and unsustainable. Retired in Euskadi wrote the following: But don't spread it around too much or the tourist industry will spoil it! I don't think we can avoid it and if you look at the world now, more people are actually looking to go to cooler climates and a holiday home where it's green is becoming more popular. A lot of Arabs actually go to Austria now Why Zell am See in Salzburg is so popular with GCC tourists |
Re: Best places to live in the future
Originally Posted by Moses2013
(Post 12023033)
While most people moved to Spain for sun and heat, do you think that will change in the future and we'll see people moving away from dry areas in Spain again? Apart from tanning that has gone in and out of fashion for various reasons, we also have other problems like water scarcity etc.. Of course sun worshippers will boast they have the best climate and won't be bothered as long as they have water, but will it be an issue for future generations and do people actually consider these things?
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Originally Posted by Bo S
(Post 12024706)
I don't think water will be scarce anymore than it has been historically in certain parts of the world. No one has ever been concerned about what would happen if the sun stopped giving of its life sustaining rays. It could never stop doing this. Could it?
Water is too precious a commodity to waste or take for granted. Those who have little value it, such as people who inhabit desert areas. In other words, we all need to take responsibility. Each household uses on average 4-500litres daily. In Spain I daresay more households than not have dishwashers. And all have washing machines. As world populations rise and people demand basics such as water, there will be only so much to go round. We must plan for the future. |
Re: Best places to live in the future
Originally Posted by Bo S
(Post 12024706)
I don't think water will be scarce anymore than it has been historically in certain parts of the world. No one has ever been concerned about what would happen if the sun stopped giving of its life sustaining rays. It could never stop doing this. Could it?
Imagine people complaining about the heat in Madrid when it's 30c, but in Basra it's over 50c today:ohmy:. |
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