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phyllis Dec 25th 2011 8:43 pm

BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
is anyone else having problems with BBC1 after 8pm, my dish was realligned a couple of months ago but is now worse, I used to get it until around 10pm, I was told to have the frequency at 12.129 and polarisation at H, but this does not hold, so can anyone advise please, can we get BBC1 on 'other channels', what is the correct frequency number and polarisation we should be using, any hints or tips please?

gardner8 Dec 25th 2011 9:05 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
Phyllis, you do not say where you are or what size dish you've got?

phyllis Dec 25th 2011 9:34 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
hi Gardner, 2.4 metre dish and in Calpe.

gardner8 Dec 25th 2011 9:42 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
Okay Phyllis, thought you might be in my neck of the woods so I'll leave it to the expert who is nearer you and no doubt will be along later to explain.

phyllis Dec 25th 2011 9:51 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
cheers Gardner

The Guy Dec 25th 2011 10:33 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
changing the defauklt frequency on a sky box does nothing about increasing channel reception times.
changing the default transponder only helps boot the sky box up, by asking it to download the channel list from a different frequency when the main one is not available,

on 12129 V there is only 1 channel - s4c... no bbcs on that frequency.
there is also no frequency of 12129 h.

all bbc chanels are already on the sky channel list up in the 950's i think, so there is no need to add them to "other cahnnels". it will be a question of going through the 20 or so bbc regions and seeing which is best for your reception. sometimes, a sky hd box will help, as the bbc hd channels are on the "strongest" bbc frequency

if you are having problems, then it may well be your dish has moved again, there were strong winds a week or so ago.

phyllis Dec 25th 2011 10:39 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
thank you so much for your reply, I think I might have to have my dish realligned by someone else, when it was realligned, and the man went, that night it went off earlier than before, but he had gone by then, especially if everyone else receives BBC1 later than me, thanks again, guy,

poolboy Dec 25th 2011 11:46 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
hello, I just had to realign my dish & crop a few tree branches obscuring the view. It has been windy & any slight move knocks off a few hours worth of viewing.

Make sure too the bolts are tight that secure it & that all connections are secure with tape.

I think I read on here that if you look towards sun at 11am that's where the satellite is so make sure there aren't any stay branches in the line of sight.

Good luck

licinius Dec 26th 2011 10:04 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 

Originally Posted by phyllis (Post 9806678)
my dish was realligned a couple of months ago but is now worse

Obviously the guy who moved your dish has made it worse, if he refuses to come back & resolve the problem then threaten to denounce him. If more people took this course of action there would be less rogue traders around.

licinius Dec 26th 2011 10:06 pm

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 9806757)
I think I read on here that if you look towards sun at 11am that's where the satellite is

Or you could try this website http://www.dishpointer.com

SpanishAngel Dec 28th 2011 10:48 pm

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We had a similar problem with BBC1 & ITV1. Had a new LNB fitted (the original was about 6 years old) and this produced about another 1.5 hours of viewing time. Since then we've had an HD box and don't lose BBC, ITV etc.

guitareth Dec 29th 2011 3:21 am

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 9806732)
changing the defauklt frequency on a sky box does nothing about increasing channel reception times.
changing the default transponder only helps boot the sky box up, by asking it to download the channel list from a different frequency when the main one is not available,

on 12129 V there is only 1 channel - s4c... no bbcs on that frequency.
there is also no frequency of 12129 h.

all bbc chanels are already on the sky channel list up in the 950's i think, so there is no need to add them to "other cahnnels". it will be a question of going through the 20 or so bbc regions and seeing which is best for your reception. sometimes, a sky hd box will help, as the bbc hd channels are on the "strongest" bbc frequency

if you are having problems, then it may well be your dish has moved again, there were strong winds a week or so ago.

Interesting. I too have recently lost access to ALL BBC channels from early in the evening, and I thought I'd read about a recent transponder change so assumed it was related to that so I'd just have to accept it. I have a Sky HD box and ceratinly used to get most BBC channnels most of the time. I now no longer get BBC News 24 (501) from even late morning, and my original BBC1 Scotland on the box (101) used to be great all the time but is now even breaking up in the morning. Now at night I cannot get a signal on ANY of the BBC channels.

HOWEVER, I'm getting my feed from my neighbour's 2.4m dish here in Orba (Alicante region), and he recently had a new perimeter wall built about 2m high and not far opposite the dish which is on a slope lower down in his garden. I would have immediately thought the new wall was affecting the signal, but as I said I thought (perhaps wrongly) that I'd read about a transponder change affecting several channels so put my detioration of the BBC channels down to that. I did monitor my signal strength (via the Sky box settings) before and after he built the wall and it didn't seem to be affected at all, so I assumed it must indeed be a transponder change or something else outwith our control.

So, can you confirm that I should indeed be able to still get some BBC 1 , BBC2 and BBC HD channels in the evenings with my SKY HD box here in Alicante region, and that if I cannot it is indeed likely to be down to the dish no longer receiving a strong enough signal?

The Guy Dec 29th 2011 5:18 am

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 

Originally Posted by guitareth (Post 9810343)
Interesting. I too have recently lost access to ALL BBC channels from early in the evening, and I thought I'd read about a recent transponder change so assumed it was related to that so I'd just have to accept it. I have a Sky HD box and ceratinly used to get most BBC channnels most of the time. I now no longer get BBC News 24 (501) from even late morning, and my original BBC1 Scotland on the box (101) used to be great all the time but is now even breaking up in the morning. Now at night I cannot get a signal on ANY of the BBC channels.

BBC News, Parliament and Alba moved frequencies a few months ago. This change now means that BBC News is on one of the weakest bbc frequencies. its reception will be very similar to bbc2 england.

in orba on a 2.4m dish i would expect this bbc news channel to be available until 5pm at least

which, may suggest that here is an issue with your sytem, especially if you are unable to receive other bbc channels later in the day

apart from these 3 channels changing frequencies, the last major bbc frequency / transponder change was in oct 2010.


Originally Posted by guitareth (Post 9810343)
ISo, can you confirm that I should indeed be able to still get some BBC 1 , BBC2 and BBC HD channels in the evenings with my SKY HD box here in Alicante region, and that if I cannot it is indeed likely to be down to the dish no longer receiving a strong enough signal?

as said many times before, reception depends on a number of things, dish type, dish alignment, dish position (objects in line of sight) lnb alignment, lnb type, cable type, cabling, joints, concrete base failure, insects inside lnb, wrong lnb used, bent /warped dishes, etc so saying what the problem is without seeing the system is guesswork. do the others connected to the dish also have the same problems - this may eliminate things like dish alignemtn,and point more to problems witht the lnb port or cabling.

but on a good, well installed, well aligned 2.4m dish in orba, you should be able to receive bbc1hd, bbchd 24/7 - assuming you do not have a thomson skyhd box - well know for problems.

guitareth Dec 29th 2011 8:12 pm

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 9810445)
BBC News, Parliament and Alba moved frequencies a few months ago. This change now means that BBC News is on one of the weakest bbc frequencies. its reception will be very similar to bbc2 england.

in orba on a 2.4m dish i would expect this bbc news channel to be available until 5pm at least

which, may suggest that here is an issue with your sytem, especially if you are unable to receive other bbc channels later in the day

apart from these 3 channels changing frequencies, the last major bbc frequency / transponder change was in oct 2010.



as said many times before, reception depends on a number of things, dish type, dish alignment, dish position (objects in line of sight) lnb alignment, lnb type, cable type, cabling, joints, concrete base failure, insects inside lnb, wrong lnb used, bent /warped dishes, etc so saying what the problem is without seeing the system is guesswork. do the others connected to the dish also have the same problems - this may eliminate things like dish alignemtn,and point more to problems witht the lnb port or cabling.

but on a good, well installed, well aligned 2.4m dish in orba, you should be able to receive bbc1hd, bbchd 24/7 - assuming you do not have a thomson skyhd box - well know for problems.

Hey John, just realised it was you, and you in fact cabled my box for me from my neighbour's dish in 2010. (It's a Pace box I have by the way) and you changed the LNB too so I know everything was alligned correctly and working OK. I think it must be the new wall that's messed things up for me. I'll need to discuss this with my neighbour and see if we can come to an arrangement, which may mean me giving you a call soon to reposition the dish!

licinius Dec 30th 2011 3:18 am

Re: BBC1 after 8pm on Sky
 
If your dish was obstructed by the wall then you would lose a lot more than just BBC your channels.

The problem is as always with the Sky box. They are not designed for use in fringe reception areas like Spain, but in the UK where the satellite signal is very strong.

A free to air satellite receiver designed to pick up any signal so is far stronger than the Sky box. Just by throwing the Sky box in the bin where it belongs & buying a new receiver for about €30 all your channels will be crystal clear & won't break up in the evening!


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