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madinmex31 Sep 1st 2011 12:45 pm

Barcelona (pet migration)
 
I shall be bringing my dog to Spain through Barcelona airport. We are arriving from outside the EU. I should have all the required papers and vaccination +ID etc. Anybody had experience with Barcelona airport for pets arriving ?

Macberry Sep 1st 2011 1:29 pm

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I am also in Mexico, contemplating taking 2 cats to Spain. Whilst I do not have any knowledge of Barcelona airport I would be interested in your experiences. As it is a long flight , assuming that you are flying from DF, it will be interesting to find out how your dog handled the flight. Good luck.
Mexberry.

Macberry Sep 1st 2011 1:33 pm

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:)

Originally Posted by Macberry (Post 9595545)
I am also in Mexico, contemplating taking 2 cats to Spain. Whilst I do not have any knowledge of Barcelona airport I would be interested in your experiences. As it is a long flight , assuming that you are flying from DF, it will be interesting to find out how your dog handled the flight. Good luck.
Mexberry.


madinmex31 Sep 1st 2011 1:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Macberry (Post 9595545)
I am also in Mexico, contemplating taking 2 cats to Spain. Whilst I do not have any knowledge of Barcelona airport I would be interested in your experiences. As it is a long flight , assuming that you are flying from DF, it will be interesting to find out how your dog handled the flight. Good luck.
Mexberry.

We are due to go in November. We are planning to fly to Mexico city one day before, stop in a hotel overnight and then fly the next day. This way the dog will not be locked away for almost 20 hours :( as there is a 6/7 hour wait at MX city for the onward flight. The things (and expense) we do for our pets ;) still they are worth it . If I go before you do I'll let you know how it went.

blackrabbitz Sep 3rd 2011 2:48 am

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yes please let me know how it went I'm also bringing my dog through barcelona Airport next month..

blackrabbitz Sep 3rd 2011 2:49 am

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Originally Posted by madinmex31 (Post 9595562)
We are due to go in November. We are planning to fly to Mexico city one day before, stop in a hotel overnight and then fly the next day. This way the dog will not be locked away for almost 20 hours :( as there is a 6/7 hour wait at MX city for the onward flight. The things (and expense) we do for our pets ;) still they are worth it . If I go before you do I'll let you know how it went.

oh sorry.. you are going after me.. but thanks anyway!

Rosemary Sep 3rd 2011 3:04 am

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Originally Posted by blackrabbitz (Post 9598325)
oh sorry.. you are going after me.. but thanks anyway!

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Please let us know if you need any further help.

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madinmex31 Sep 3rd 2011 3:11 am

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Originally Posted by blackrabbitz (Post 9598325)
oh sorry.. you are going after me.. but thanks anyway!

:) Maybe you can add your experiences then please, would really be appreciated

Macberry Sep 3rd 2011 3:33 am

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We will be flying to Spain either from Mexico City or Vancouver BC. Our 2 cats travel in the cabin under the seat. We will be routing ourselves through a city on the east coast, Newark, or New York, that gives us the shortest trans atlantic flight. If it take an extra day then that's fine. The UK are relaxing their rules about in transit pets sometime this winter, so flying through Heathrow may work also. We would not trust our pets to be put in cargo - too many horror stories for our liking. There is an airline that flies only pets within the USA - hopefully that will be extended to Europe soon. In the past Spanish authorities have treated us well, make sure all their papers , chips etc are ok and written in Spanish.

madinmex31 Sep 3rd 2011 3:45 am

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Originally Posted by Macberry (Post 9598379)
We will be flying to Spain either from Mexico City or Vancouver BC. Our 2 cats travel in the cabin under the seat. We will be routing ourselves through a city on the east coast, Newark, or New York, that gives us the shortest trans atlantic flight. If it take an extra day then that's fine. The UK are relaxing their rules about in transit pets sometime this winter, so flying through Heathrow may work also. We would not trust our pets to be put in cargo - too many horror stories for our liking. There is an airline that flies only pets within the USA - hopefully that will be extended to Europe soon. In the past Spanish authorities have treated us well, make sure all their papers , chips etc are ok and written in Spanish.

Thanks, sadly our Yorkie is 3 Kilos over the limit so have no choice but the luggage compartment. This is the reason for a night stopover in MX city to shorten the time :(

tim1963 Sep 4th 2011 6:32 am

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We brought our dog (large Yorkie) from Atlanta to Barcelona about 3 years ago. Although he was probably over the weight limit, no-one weighed him (they just looked into his carrier) and he traveled in the cabin with us. We had a stuffed folder of paperwork that we tried to show to some very disinterested customs officers. We could have paraded a donkey through and not one would have lifted an eyebrow.

Rambling Rose Sep 7th 2011 1:02 am

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We bought 2 westies from Scotland to Barcelona via Frankfurt (no direct flights for pets from scotland available) - 4 years ago next month.

We used a professional pet shipping firm so we left the dogs with them in Edinburgh. They did all the export paperwork, last minute vet stuff, provided the pet carriers etc. It cost just under £1,200.

We gave our mobile number and were told we would be called when the dogs arrived. We were also given a phone number which we were told was at the airport and on which someone spoke english, in case of problems.

On the day the dogs were due to arrive we drove to the airport and parked in the multistorey carpark. When we knew the dogs should have landed and we had received no call we tried to call the phone number but, of course no-one did speak english. I was in the early stages of learning spanish but as soon as I said the word 'perro' they hung up on me. In desperation we went into the terminal building and went to the tourist information desk, where a very kind english speaking person called the number for us. He didn't get anywhere either as the person on the other end knew nothing about our dogs. He was able to tell us that the flight they were on was a cargo only flight and direct us to the cargo hold. We walked what seemed like miles around the airport perimeter round in what was now blistering heat until we found the place.

Eventually after waving around our copies of the paperwork, showing our passports and paying a 40 odd euro import fee we were directed to a warehouse. Our dogs eventually appeared in their crates on the back of a forklift truck. They had no water and were sitting on soiled newpaper. Their leads were tied onto the top of the crates and one of them was broken. We asked if we could bring the car around but were told 'no' as it was a secure area.

We got them out of the crates and they immediately pulled us towards a dirty puddle desperate for a drink (there had been a heavy thunderstorm the night before so puddles everywhere). I stayed with them while my husband went to move the car as close as he could but we still ended up struggling with them and the crates along part of the busy airport road with taxis flying past at high speed.

We never did get a call to say they had arrived. I wrote to the pet travel company complaining bitterly and they said they would pass on my comment to Lufthanza. Never heard another thing.

Both dogs recovered after a few days - not sure I ever will :(

Sorry to have related this tale but its worth being as prepared as you can be.
The airport has changed a lot in the last few years with a new terminal building etc Hopefully you won't have a similar experience to ours. Maybe there is a way you can park nearer to the cargo terminal. My advice is to find out as much as you can before you get there and don't rely on the spanish to follow procedure - they don't care much about animals in my experience.

Best of luck

Macberry Sep 7th 2011 1:25 am

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 9605444)
We bought 2 westies from Scotland to Barcelona via Frankfurt (no direct flights for pets from scotland available) - 4 years ago next month.

We used a professional pet shipping firm so we left the dogs with them in Edinburgh. They did all the export paperwork, last minute vet stuff, provided the pet carriers etc. It cost just under £1,200.

We gave our mobile number and were told we would be called when the dogs arrived. We were also given a phone number which we were told was at the airport and on which someone spoke english, in case of problems.

On the day the dogs were due to arrive we drove to the airport and parked in the multistorey carpark. When we knew the dogs should have landed and we had received no call we tried to call the phone number but, of course no-one did speak english. I was in the early stages of learning spanish but as soon as I said the word 'perro' they hung up on me. In desperation we went into the terminal building and went to the tourist information desk, where a very kind english speaking person called the number for us. He didn't get anywhere either as the person on the other end knew nothing about our dogs. He was able to tell us that the flight they were on was a cargo only flight and direct us to the cargo hold. We walked what seemed like miles around the airport perimeter round in what was now blistering heat until we found the place.

Eventually after waving around our copies of the paperwork, showing our passports and paying a 40 odd euro import fee we were directed to a warehouse. Our dogs eventually appeared in their crates on the back of a forklift truck. They had no water and were sitting on soiled newpaper. Their leads were tied onto the top of the crates and one of them was broken. We asked if we could bring the car around but were told 'no' as it was a secure area.

We got them out of the crates and they immediately pulled us towards a dirty puddle desperate for a drink (there had been a heavy thunderstorm the night before so puddles everywhere). I stayed with them while my husband went to move the car as close as he could but we still ended up struggling with them and the crates along part of the busy airport road with taxis flying past at high speed.

We never did get a call to say they had arrived. I wrote to the pet travel company complaining bitterly and they said they would pass on my comment to Lufthanza. Never heard another thing.

Both dogs recovered after a few days - not sure I ever will :(

Sorry to have related this tale but its worth being as prepared as you can be.
The airport has changed a lot in the last few years with a new terminal building etc Hopefully you won't have a similar experience to ours. Maybe there is a way you can park nearer to the cargo terminal. My advice is to find out as much as you can before you get there and don't rely on the spanish to follow procedure - they don't care much about animals in my experience.

Best of luck

Thanks for the information on Lufthansa - they have been deleted from my list of carriers. In the US and Canada there have been numerous stories such as yours where airline indifference has caused distress to both the pet and owner.
Some airlines in Canada welcome pets, their policies are reasonable given the severe winter conditions and as a result have seen a steady growth in passengers because they understand that owners care a great deal about their pets. They are a part of the family.

madinmex31 Sep 7th 2011 1:58 am

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 9605444)
We bought 2 westies from Scotland to Barcelona via Frankfurt (no direct flights for pets from scotland available) - 4 years ago next month.

We used a professional pet shipping firm so we left the dogs with them in Edinburgh. They did all the export paperwork, last minute vet stuff, provided the pet carriers etc. It cost just under £1,200.

We gave our mobile number and were told we would be called when the dogs arrived. We were also given a phone number which we were told was at the airport and on which someone spoke english, in case of problems.

On the day the dogs were due to arrive we drove to the airport and parked in the multistorey carpark. When we knew the dogs should have landed and we had received no call we tried to call the phone number but, of course no-one did speak english. I was in the early stages of learning spanish but as soon as I said the word 'perro' they hung up on me. In desperation we went into the terminal building and went to the tourist information desk, where a very kind english speaking person called the number for us. He didn't get anywhere either as the person on the other end knew nothing about our dogs. He was able to tell us that the flight they were on was a cargo only flight and direct us to the cargo hold. We walked what seemed like miles around the airport perimeter round in what was now blistering heat until we found the place.

Eventually after waving around our copies of the paperwork, showing our passports and paying a 40 odd euro import fee we were directed to a warehouse. Our dogs eventually appeared in their crates on the back of a forklift truck. They had no water and were sitting on soiled newpaper. Their leads were tied onto the top of the crates and one of them was broken. We asked if we could bring the car around but were told 'no' as it was a secure area.

We got them out of the crates and they immediately pulled us towards a dirty puddle desperate for a drink (there had been a heavy thunderstorm the night before so puddles everywhere). I stayed with them while my husband went to move the car as close as he could but we still ended up struggling with them and the crates along part of the busy airport road with taxis flying past at high speed.

We never did get a call to say they had arrived. I wrote to the pet travel company complaining bitterly and they said they would pass on my comment to Lufthanza. Never heard another thing.

Both dogs recovered after a few days - not sure I ever will :(

Sorry to have related this tale but its worth being as prepared as you can be.
The airport has changed a lot in the last few years with a new terminal building etc Hopefully you won't have a similar experience to ours. Maybe there is a way you can park nearer to the cargo terminal. My advice is to find out as much as you can before you get there and don't rely on the spanish to follow procedure - they don't care much about animals in my experience.

Best of luck

What a horrible experience :(

My (near) neighbour owns a logistic company and at first was tempted to use them but was fearful of your own experience.

We have relations who work for the airline (in charge of cargo) so the first part of the journey I feel reasonably happy. It is the onward flight that does concern me, hence my questions re Barcelona airport. We were there in May and have to admit the terminal looked very spick and span so hopefully things have changed. We will also be traveling on the same A/C.

My wife's natural language is Spanish so that should help, also as we are not going untill November I'm just hoping the traffic will not be to busy.

Fortunately it is going to be a one way journey so there will be no repeat (just got to convince the dog that 24 hours of travel will be worth it ;) )

Thanks for all replies :)

madinmex31 Oct 20th 2011 12:47 am

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(Sorry but Reviving this topic)

We now have two weeks to go and someone from the airline has caused the wife some anxiety regarding the dog with entry into Spain from Mexico.

Here http://costablanca.angloinfo.com/cou.../pettravel.asp

And here http://ec.europa.eu/food/animal/live...m_third_en.htm

It appears that the blood test is not required except for the 4 countries mentioned (I know the UK are changing next year)

Our dog has the chip, all the vaccinations, has had the initial and boosters for rabies. As far as I can make out from the second link Mexico falls into the "favourable" 3rd world countries.

We have spoken to the Mexican Agriculture dept responsible for issuing the required certificate and they say that a blood test is not required providing all of the above requirements are met.

From what I can gather the message we received is that should the airline accept the dog and the immigration at Barcelona reject the paperwork (no blood test), and this is what upset the wife, the dog would be put down.

We are going to visit the Agg,Dept again here to verify.

Sorry for this long post but would be interested to know of any experiences from anyone outside the first world countries who may have traveled to Spain.

Macberry Oct 20th 2011 1:29 am

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It would appear to me that you have all the necessary shots and chip that are required for your dog to enter Spain. It will be necessary that all paperwork be in Spanish. I would offer two suggestions to ease your wife's anxiety: Assuming you have access to a Spanish consulate, visit them and ask for clarification. If you still are not satisfied then visit your vet and get the blood test done.
I am not sure of the exact number of days, perhaps 2 or 3 before departure we take our cats to our vet in Puerto Vallarta to get a health certificate which is required to enter the US or Canada.This may be of interest if your flight takes you through the states.
We are flying to Spain this coming winter and as our cats travel in the cabin we take the shortest route across which means we will be testing the new UK regulations, which will be conforming with those of the EU.We break our trip for a day so that the cats can stretch after 8 hrs under the seat!
I,m sure all will be well - have an enjoyable trip.

tim1963 Oct 20th 2011 1:34 am

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As I think I said in my last post, we moved from the US to France, traveling through Barcelona. Our dog came on board with us. I don't know if that made any difference but no one checked any paperwork when we arrived. We walked straight thru with the dog on his leash. There's no requirement to have any blood test for entry to Spain (or France).

madinmex31 Oct 20th 2011 1:43 am

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Originally Posted by tim1963 (Post 9685826)
As I think I said in my last post, we moved from the US to France, traveling through Barcelona. Our dog came on board with us. I don't know if that made any difference but no one checked any paperwork when we arrived. We walked straight thru with the dog on his leash. There's no requirement to have any blood test for entry to Spain (or France).

Thanks Tim, We will have to travel with the dog in the baggage/cargo hold :( but great to hear re the blood test :) I shall pass this on to the wife who will be relieved (to say the least)

thanks a lot

Macberry Oct 20th 2011 1:47 am

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I agree with you regarding the blood test - I do not believe it is required. However the rules travelling from a tropical country like Mexico are sometimes different and as I have not checked on this directly I did not want to contradict the original post.
Mexberry.

madinmex31 Oct 20th 2011 1:58 am

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Originally Posted by Macberry (Post 9685812)
It would appear to me that you have all the necessary shots and chip that are required for your dog to enter Spain. It will be necessary that all paperwork be in Spanish. I would offer two suggestions to ease your wife's anxiety: Assuming you have access to a Spanish consulate, visit them and ask for clarification. If you still are not satisfied then visit your vet and get the blood test done.
I am not sure of the exact number of days, perhaps 2 or 3 before departure we take our cats to our vet in Puerto Vallarta to get a health certificate which is required to enter the US or Canada.This may be of interest if your flight takes you through the states.
We are flying to Spain this coming winter and as our cats travel in the cabin we take the shortest route across which means we will be testing the new UK regulations, which will be conforming with those of the EU.We break our trip for a day so that the cats can stretch after 8 hrs under the seat!
I,m sure all will be well - have an enjoyable trip.

Thanks :)

Tried the local Spanish consulate and to honest they did not know (true) The blood test does require a waiting period of I believe one month for a reply and result and we travel in two weeks time. We will be flying directly from DF and up till now it appears that we have been following all that is required untill someone threw a spanner in the works hence these late posts. I feel sure that this is an unintended scare so am trying to double check everything. The ministry of Agg here in Mexico does require the vets exam to be completed no later than 5 days before departure before it will issue a certificate. In fact I'm going to make an earlier appointment with them to try and clear up this issue before we go. Many thanks for replying :)

evamar Oct 20th 2011 2:21 am

MADINMEX, the blood test is not needed between most of EU countries now and the UK will be dropping it next year. Spain does not require it for EU countries, but better check for countries outside this area. You can check in http://www.marm.es/es/ganaderia/legislacion/ Go down to Comercio Exterior Ganadero and click on Legislación sobre movimiento de animales de compañía.

To make things easier, just ask them directly at [email protected]


I would like to ask about the actual journey. We will be coming with our cats from London to Valencia next year. So far I have been quoted for transport by road but it seems too long and one of them is quite nervous and asthmatic so I'm very concerned about the stress in long trips.

Does anybody here know about airlines that take pets for this trip? How long did it take since you left your pets till you got them back?

We were considering bringing them ourselves in our car with all the documentation and take some breaks. Has anybody tried this?

:confused:

Macberry Oct 20th 2011 2:24 am

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Originally Posted by madinmex31 (Post 9685878)
Thanks :)

Tried the local Spanish consulate and to honest they did not know (true) The blood test does require a waiting period of I believe one month for a reply and result and we travel in two weeks time. We will be flying directly from DF and up till now it appears that we have been following all that is required untill someone threw a spanner in the works hence these late posts. I feel sure that this is an unintended scare so am trying to double check everything. The ministry of Agg here in Mexico does require the vets exam to be completed no later than 5 days before departure before it will issue a certificate. In fact I'm going to make an earlier appointment with them to try and clear up this issue before we go. Many thanks for replying :)

We went thru DF last week,terminal 1. I counted in excess of 40 currency exchange booths in what is primarily the domestic terminal. I wonder what it is like in #2 . Talk about overkill!

Macberry Oct 20th 2011 2:54 am

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Originally Posted by evamar (Post 9685930)
MADINMEX, the blood test is not needed between most of EU countries now and the UK will be dropping it next year. Spain does not require it for EU countries, but better check for countries outside this area. You can check in http://www.marm.es/es/ganaderia/legislacion/ Go down to Comercio Exterior Ganadero and click on Legislación sobre movimiento de animales de compañía.

To make things easier, just ask them directly at [email protected]


I would like to ask about the actual journey. We will be coming with our cats from London to Valencia next year. So far I have been quoted for transport by road but it seems too long and one of them is quite nervous and asthmatic so I'm very concerned about the stress in long trips.

Does anybody here know about airlines that take pets for this trip? How long did it take since you left your pets till you got them back?

We were considering bringing them ourselves in our car with all the documentation and take some breaks. Has anybody tried this?

:confused:

We made a trip last year from Canada to Mexico by car with our 2 cats. We used 2 soft sided kennels and most days we travelled for a maximum of 8 hours, so our trip took a week. We fed them as soon as we got up in the morning , so they used their litter before we left. I cannot say they enjoyed the trip, being confined, but after the first day they got used to it and of course they could run around the hotel room when we arrived. We are making the return trip in 2 weeks. If we were making your journey we would without doubt take them with us in the car.

AdrianTO Oct 20th 2011 3:01 am

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Originally Posted by madinmex31 (Post 9685878)
Thanks :)

Tried the local Spanish consulate and to honest they did not know (true) The blood test does require a waiting period of I believe one month for a reply and result and we travel in two weeks time. We will be flying directly from DF and up till now it appears that we have been following all that is required untill someone threw a spanner in the works hence these late posts. I feel sure that this is an unintended scare so am trying to double check everything. The ministry of Agg here in Mexico does require the vets exam to be completed no later than 5 days before departure before it will issue a certificate. In fact I'm going to make an earlier appointment with them to try and clear up this issue before we go. Many thanks for replying :)

What blood test is this? I took my dog from Canada to Spain and there was no blood test required. I just needed a certificate with the rabies vaccination and the identification chip number. This was stamped and certified by the local ministry in Toronto and that was it.

At Malaga airport, he came off the conveyor belt in his crate, I took him off and walked straight out. Nobody bothered to stop me and ask about him or check the paperwork. Nothing.

madinmex31 Oct 20th 2011 3:29 am

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Originally Posted by AdrianTO (Post 9686014)
What blood test is this? I took my dog from Canada to Spain and there was no blood test required. I just needed a certificate with the rabies vaccination and the identification chip number. This was stamped and certified by the local ministry in Toronto and that was it.

At Malaga airport, he came off the conveyor belt in his crate, I took him off and walked straight out. Nobody bothered to stop me and ask about him or check the paperwork. Nothing.

It is a blood test to ensure that the rabies vaccination is effective. I was one of the first, when living in England, that allowed pet travel to the EU without the need for quarantine. The vaccine was given and one month later a blood test was given to find whether the vaccine was effective (or met a certain resistance) a certificate was issued by the ministry if all was OK. Certain countries outside the EU that abide by the international standard of rabies control are exempt from this procedure. The second link I added to my first post lists them. However like most governmental papers they are high tech reading :blink: and although it mentioned Mexico (in my case) it all seemed so complicated, never a straight forward yes/no answer.

madinmex31 Oct 20th 2011 3:44 am

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Originally Posted by evamar (Post 9685930)
MADINMEX, the blood test is not needed between most of EU countries now and the UK will be dropping it next year. Spain does not require it for EU countries, but better check for countries outside this area. You can check in http://www.marm.es/es/ganaderia/legislacion/ Go down to Comercio Exterior Ganadero and click on Legislación sobre movimiento de animales de compañía.

To make things easier, just ask them directly at [email protected]


I would like to ask about the actual journey. We will be coming with our cats from London to Valencia next year. So far I have been quoted for transport by road but it seems too long and one of them is quite nervous and asthmatic so I'm very concerned about the stress in long trips.

Does anybody here know about airlines that take pets for this trip? How long did it take since you left your pets till you got them back?

We were considering bringing them ourselves in our car with all the documentation and take some breaks. Has anybody tried this?

:confused:

Thanks Evamar,

The son ( a google search expert ;)) downloaded Marm last night and it all seems that there is no problem. To be doubly sure we are taking a copy with us.

Although I added in a post below about having my previous dog in the UK and the intention was to move to Spain we never quite made it. My intention was to travel by road at that time, preferably traveling by night and giving exercise and a rest by day. That was the intention and I'm sure would be the route I would take if it were to happen today.

We are now in a different situation and intend flying the short journey to Mexico city and booking a hotel overnight so the dog has a break. Then a 10 hour night flight to Barca.. We are moving to Spain so thankfully it's just a one way journey.

madinmex31 Oct 20th 2011 3:49 am

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Originally Posted by Macberry (Post 9685938)
We went thru DF last week,terminal 1. I counted in excess of 40 currency exchange booths in what is primarily the domestic terminal. I wonder what it is like in #2 . Talk about overkill!

Only ever been to the Airport In Mex city once and was to tired to notice much at all, will now be looking in a couple of weeks :)

Some years back we drove through on our way home, never ever again will I attempt that journey :eek:

AdrianTO Oct 20th 2011 3:58 am

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Originally Posted by madinmex31 (Post 9686095)
It is a blood test to ensure that the rabies vaccination is effective. I was one of the first, when living in England, that allowed pet travel to the EU without the need for quarantine. The vaccine was given and one month later a blood test was given to find whether the vaccine was effective (or met a certain resistance) a certificate was issued by the ministry if all was OK. Certain countries outside the EU that abide by the international standard of rabies control are exempt from this procedure. The second link I added to my first post lists them. However like most governmental papers they are high tech reading :blink: and although it mentioned Mexico (in my case) it all seemed so complicated, never a straight forward yes/no answer.

OK, I remember reading about this, and as far as I recall, it was only a requirement for the UK, as a way of bypassing the 6 month quarantine period.

I definitely did not have to do this when I took my dog from Canada. The form that I downloaded and printed off only required the rabies certificate and chip number. As I mentioned, nobody even looked at the documents when I landed at Malaga.

Rambling Rose Oct 20th 2011 9:50 pm

Re: Barcelona (pet migration)
 

Originally Posted by madinmex31 (Post 9685721)
(Sorry but Reviving this topic)

We now have two weeks to go and someone from the airline has caused the wife some anxiety regarding the dog with entry into Spain from Mexico.

Here http://costablanca.angloinfo.com/cou.../pettravel.asp

And here http://ec.europa.eu/food/animal/live...m_third_en.htm

It appears that the blood test is not required except for the 4 countries mentioned (I know the UK are changing next year)

Our dog has the chip, all the vaccinations, has had the initial and boosters for rabies. As far as I can make out from the second link Mexico falls into the "favourable" 3rd world countries.

We have spoken to the Mexican Agriculture dept responsible for issuing the required certificate and they say that a blood test is not required providing all of the above requirements are met.

From what I can gather the message we received is that should the airline accept the dog and the immigration at Barcelona reject the paperwork (no blood test), and this is what upset the wife, the dog would be put down.

We are going to visit the Agg,Dept again here to verify.

Sorry for this long post but would be interested to know of any experiences from anyone outside the first world countries who may have traveled to Spain.

I'm not surprised your wife is upset. Is it too late to have the blood test anyway just to be on the safe side? Really hope you get this sorted out.

madinmex31 Oct 21st 2011 12:11 am

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Originally Posted by Rambling Rose (Post 9687491)
I'm not surprised your wife is upset. Is it too late to have the blood test anyway just to be on the safe side? Really hope you get this sorted out.

We could have the test done but the time limit is against us. Although the local vet could take the sample it has to be sent of to a specifically recognized laboratory and from my recollection (having it done in the UK with my last dog) it needs a month at least for the results to be effective. We have checked with the local Ministry of Agg, checked against MARM http://www.marm.es/es/ganaderia/legislacion/

Checked with http://ec.europa.eu/food/animal/live...m_third_en.htm and adding the remarks here it certainly appears that we do have the necessary requirements and do not need a blood test.

Having said that we have an appointment with The ministry (here) today to verify face to face with the dept that all is well as they issue the certificate that the airlines need.

The doubt arose from from a printed article on the airlines web site made in 2003 so we have also contacted the airline (waiting for a reply)

I'll add the results as soon as I have the answers in case it may assist others.

Thanks for your reply

Fred James Oct 21st 2011 12:39 am

Re: Barcelona (pet migration)
 

Originally Posted by AdrianTO (Post 9686150)
OK, I remember reading about this, and as far as I recall, it was only a requirement for the UK, as a way of bypassing the 6 month quarantine period. .

Correct and from Jan 1 2012 they are scrapping that requirement for import from the EU and other qualifying countries - at last!

madinmex31 Nov 20th 2011 12:50 am

Re: Barcelona (pet migration)
 
We have now arrived in Spain and I'm sure the dog had a better flight than we did ;). On the pet immigration front the officials in Spain were making a great fuss of him and no papers were checked, in fact the officials in Mex city were more concerned about the paperwork and even had a vet on hand to give a quick medical check.

Thanks to all who replied :thumbsup:

Rambling Rose Nov 20th 2011 1:27 am

Re: Barcelona (pet migration)
 

Originally Posted by madinmex31 (Post 9743923)
We have now arrived in Spain and I'm sure the dog had a better flight than we did ;). On the pet immigration front the officials in Spain were making a great fuss of him and no papers were checked, in fact the officials in Mex city were more concerned about the paperwork and even had a vet on hand to give a quick medical check.

Thanks to all who replied :thumbsup:

Thats really good news. I'm sure you and your wife are very relieved.

AdrianTO Nov 20th 2011 2:08 am

Re: Barcelona (pet migration)
 

Originally Posted by madinmex31 (Post 9743923)
We have now arrived in Spain and I'm sure the dog had a better flight than we did ;). On the pet immigration front the officials in Spain were making a great fuss of him and no papers were checked, in fact the officials in Mex city were more concerned about the paperwork and even had a vet on hand to give a quick medical check.

Thanks to all who replied :thumbsup:

Congratulations! I had the same experience when I arrived in Spain with my dog. Nobody bothered with the paperwork.

Which airline did you use?

madinmex31 Nov 20th 2011 4:02 am

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Thanks to both replies :)

I'm sure the dog enjoyed it !! after all the worry and concern from the wife and myself he emerged relaxed and appeared to enjoy attention he was getting. We travelled with AeroMexico.

Hino Nov 20th 2011 2:03 pm

Re: Barcelona (pet migration)
 

Originally Posted by Macberry (Post 9605477)
Thanks for the information on Lufthansa - they have been deleted from my list of carriers. In the US and Canada there have been numerous stories such as yours where airline indifference has caused distress to both the pet and owner.
Some airlines in Canada welcome pets, their policies are reasonable given the severe winter conditions and as a result have seen a steady growth in passengers because they understand that owners care a great deal about their pets. They are a part of the family.

How exactly did Lufthansa fail this lady or her companion animals ???


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