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EsuriJohn Sep 24th 2006 8:18 am

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Hi Wendy & Kirk,

Welcome to the forum.

This subject was discussed extensively about 12 mths ago on this thread part 2 or 3. The general conclusion was that it was not financially worthwhile to join the club as a member and there did not seem to be any other benefits.

If you do a search on Finagolf or golf club membership you should find the discussion and there was an attachment to one post that included the prices and an application form. If I recall correctly I did a translation of the general terms as an attachment.

2 or 3 days ago somebody posted that Finagolf had been dismissed and that Fadesa had taken golf course management back in-house, but nobody has yet corroborated this.

Regards, :)

John.

Originally Posted by Wendy & Kirk
Hi, my name is Wendy and my husband, Kirk, and I are in the process of buying a Rago 1 apartment. We've been trying to get some information out of Finagolf about buying a share of the golf club/joining the golf club. We have e-mailed them and written letters several times but no one contacts us. Has anyone had any success with dealing with them? If so any contact details would be much appreciated!
:confused:


Wendy & Kirk Sep 24th 2006 7:06 pm

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Thanks for the quick reply. We have already filled in an 'expression of interest' form some nine months ago but we have not heard anything since. It would be nice to have a conversation with them or at least an acknowledgement of our correspondence!

keithwalters Sep 24th 2006 11:57 pm

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Originally Posted by John & Kath
Hi Wendy & Kirk,


2 or 3 days ago somebody posted that Finagolf had been dismissed and that Fadesa had taken golf course management back in-house, but nobody has yet corroborated this.

Regards, :)

John.

I also heard from Paula in the shed that Finagolf are no longer going to be managing the golf course and that it will be Fadesa, so I think there is some truth in that.

A & M Sep 25th 2006 12:42 am

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Originally Posted by keithwalters
I also heard from Paula in the shed that Finagolf are no longer going to be managing the golf course and that it will be Fadesa, so I think there is some truth in that.

Now that Golf 1 seems to have taken shape (thanks for the pix everyone), does anyone know where/how you can get hold of a plan of the course layout? It would be nice to be able to "think" our way round the course and to identify which hole is which from the photos. We could then caption our own photos appropriately when we go out from 15 - 22 Oct.

It's frustrating being able to look at the websites of courses less well advanced than C.E. (eg Monte Rei and Quinta do Vale) and see far more info about them than we seem to be able to find about Golf 1.

Carol&John Sep 25th 2006 2:29 am

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[QUOTE=MEL & JOHN]Hiya
...For our M2 area I am concerned about the earth from the bank that was brought down by the rain and flushed into the pool.

Hola!
Hi Mel,
I wonder how many people currently completing on RVA manzana 2 would be willing to add this to their snagging list? Would Fadesa then be obliged to correct the fault? A mesh netting with ground cover plants growing in between the gaps might help to "knit together" this bank of earth.

Re:community administration costs/issues.
I understand what you mean about "treading on toes" and agree about maintaining confidentiality. The people elected/roped in/volunteering to stand on the committee are doing a thankless task. But, then again, they are not there for the praise.

Am I correct in thinking that these committees/administrations must follow set guidelines under EU law?

Shouldn't there be an itemised list of costs for each manzana and/or community (ie. Lomas, Vistas, Marina E) with comparative lists of costs with similarly sized communities within the ayuntamiento? I would like to know whether or not my community charges are going towards the maintenance of the: gardens/gates/fences/paintwork/footpaths & stairs/inner community roads and parking bays/pools/basura depots/lighting/lifts (applicable to some)/concierge & his/her pension (applicable to some?)

If we have to pay so much more than others, I would like to know that, whatever we put into the common pot, there will remain plenty leftover inside the pot!

hasta luego mis esurianos,
Carol

lesley Sep 25th 2006 4:12 am

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Hello everyone
We've just come back from staying in our (Rago2) apartment for 10 days and have a few comments that might be of interest to some. The plug in mozzie killers worked fine in the apartment - we kept the shutters shut at night but opened the doors and the temperature inside was fine- no need to use the air-con overnight and no bugs! We noticed that some people have replaced the shutters with mozzie blinds, but felt that this would make the inside temperature hotter in the day and it didn't look so secure. Security though was not a problem - there's a lady security guard on duty throughout the day.
The car entry points are not working yet, but Fadesa gave us the bleep (and put notices on the portal doors) on Wednesday and we collected a spare from AEA at a cost of 35Euros! We noticed that there are no gates into the apartments so visitors have to duck under the barrier - not such fun if you are in a wheelchair. We had some problems trying to get a spare portal key cut (Fadesa only issues one) as ours was a poor copy. After several trips to the key cutter near the market we had to get an original key from AEA so the problem was solved in the end.
For those of you who haven't yet been to stay it's worth checking that gas is connected before you go. In theory ours was, but in practice there was a fault on the boiler so the gas had been cut off. However no one knew this so we spent 6 days for the gas man to arrive only to be told the boiler was dangerous. Fadesa did get their act together though and the boiler problem was solved the same day.
Conforta are organising extra units for the kitchen if you contact them - Ampara (I think she's new) was amazingly organised and had a kitchen fitter on site within 24 hours of us asking.
There was a lot of work happening on the golf course, several bits were seeded and the groundwork on Hole 4 (Course 2) progressed a lot during our stay. Also loads of workers on the Commercial Centre, lots of watering everywhere, palm trees were healthier than when we went in March and a truck came round on Tuesday and removed any dead palm branches so it all looked good.
We were amazed at what has been acomplished since March and can only begin to imagine what it'll be like in 5 years time. Just wish we hadn't had to come home!
Adios!
Lesley

Ned kelly Sep 25th 2006 7:24 am

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Originally Posted by lesley
Hello everyone
on Wednesday and we collected a spare from AEA at a cost of 35Euros! We noticed that there are no gates into the apartments so visitors have to duck under the barrier - not such fun if you are in a wheelchair. We had some problems trying to get a spare portal key cut (Fadesa only issues one) as ours was a poor copy. After several trips to the key cutter near the market we had to get an original key from AEA so the problem was solved in the end.

Lesley

Lesley,
Its worth a trip to Carrefore a few miles past LEPE. Its a very large supermarket that provides the smaller things that you need to finish your place.
We went there last week and had 3 extra gate keys cut and 1 front door for about 24 Euros. It was done whilst we went round shopping.
You drive through Lepe and just keep going, you can't miss it on the left.It takes about 30 mins from Costa Esuri.
Ned

AndyS Sep 25th 2006 9:24 am

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Originally Posted by Wendy & Kirk
Thanks for the quick reply. We have already filled in an 'expression of interest' form some nine months ago but we have not heard anything since. It would be nice to have a conversation with them or at least an acknowledgement of our correspondence!

Hi Wendy & Kirk and welcome to the thread. If it's any help I have the prices that Finagolf were quoting. The first 300 to join, price was €8,000 which was then discounted by 50%. Prices then rose dependent on when you bought. If you happened to be number 2401 the price was €14,000 less the discount. Annual membership was quoted at €1,000 with a green fee of €6. I'm with John on the issue of value for money. I also think it worth bearing in mind that there are/will be a number of good courses in close proximity, all offering competitive green fees. If it's true that Fadesa are taking over the golf the price structure may change (that's assuming they make the effort to communicate the fees to us all).
In the event you still want to talk to Finagolf, the last contact I spoke to was Luis Yangues on 0034 952 903354.

Andy

matt begley Sep 25th 2006 10:52 am

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Originally Posted by Ned kelly
Lesley,
Its worth a trip to Carrefore a few miles past LEPE. Its a very large supermarket that provides the smaller things that you need to finish your place.
We went there last week and had 3 extra gate keys cut and 1 front door for about 24 Euros. It was done whilst we went round shopping.
You drive through Lepe and just keep going, you can't miss it on the left.It takes about 30 mins from Costa Esuri.
Ned

Hi Lesley

I too had keys cut at Carrefour - no probs - but then 'found' the smalll hardware shop, opposite the fish market and Idea electrical, in Ayamonte did as good a job for a third cheaper. Worth a look for all sorts of DIY odds and ends.

Matt

Gary & Julie Selkirk Sep 25th 2006 9:00 pm

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Originally Posted by CAROL ELIZABETH
Just been looking at the webcam and noting the weather in Ayamonte - 72 degrees and the sun shining. Currently here it is dark, misty and raining and it is a weekend! It is not cold but not the same without the sun. Wish I was visiting next week!

There are quite a few dismal threads on the forum at the moment so please uplift us CSR by bringing back some super pictures!

Carol

Never mind its good for the golf course.
Gary

Ragomuffin Sep 25th 2006 10:26 pm

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Hi All,

We’ve just returned from a ten day mission to furnish our apartment and
wanted to share some good and bad experiences in an effort to help those
faced with similar tasks in future.

On day two, after cleaning the apartment, a major task in itself, we bought
all our white goods and other electrodomesticos (TV, DVD, CD, hoover,
toaster, kettle etc.) from Master Cadena Guerrero in Ayamonte. Eduardo
speaks excellent English and was extremely helpful, all items were delivered
next day from stock and fitted free of charge. The overall price was less
than we budgeted and a lot less than comparable products in the UK.

Our terrace furniture was from Outdoor Living just off the road to Isla
Canela near Egg in Nest as recommended by Furniture Frontera and lighting
from Hiper Lamparas at Cartaya, again both gave fantastic service and value.

While in Cartaya, we stocked up at Carrefour, which is excellent.

Two days gone and we’re bang on schedule. This is a piece of p##s we
thought...then the wheels fell off.

We had decided to buy our main furniture from Ikea and had arranged to meet
Liz and Denny from Don Campo - http://www.doncampo.co.uk to transport our
purchases home. I’m an experienced Ikea shopper and the prospect held little
terror. We followed Liz’s advice and preordered and paid for the larger
items, for which we had cash. We then proceeded to shop for the more
portable items. When we got to the checkout a second time with two very
large trolley loads we proffered a credit card, which was refused. We phoned
the bank who said the problem lay with Ikea but Ikea were totally
intransigent. By this time Liz had arrived and negotiated in Spanish on our
behalf but to no avail. We were made to feel like criminals. I have
travelled extensively in Europe and never had a card refused before.

In the end, as we were getting nowhere, we decided to use a different card.
The officious madam that masqueraded as a manager then decided all the goods
- two trolley loads - would have to be rescanned. This they did and it came
out with a 10 Euro discrepancy in Ikea's favour. Never mind I said, I’ll pay
the extra. But Oh no, that would be far too simple and they proceeded to
scan again. Eventually an hour and a half at the checkout, we left with our
purchases. Throughout the entire saga Liz and Denny were unbelievably
patient and helpful and I cannot recommend their service highly enough. If
you go to Ikea - TAKE CASH, or better still have Don Campo do the whole shop
for you.

Days four and five were spent assembling and fitting, which wasn’t too bad
and on day six which happened to be a Sunday, we decided to have a break for
religious reasons - Chelsea were playing Liverpool.

We went to The Sugar Reef as we hadn’t been before. Oh dear. I don’t often
agree with SLR but JD Wetherspoons and it’s inherent oafish, noisy, lack of
class is alive and well and in Isla Canela. Still, each to their own. Great
result though.

Back to Ikea on Monday for the things that were missing or we forgot, with
cash this time.

More assembly Tuesday. A relax on the beautiful beach at Praia Verde on
Wednesday. Indoors for the day on Thursday while the tail of hurricane
Gordon dropped it’s deluge.

And that’s that. Can’t wait to get back again.

I’m posting a couple of pics that might be of interest along with a drawing
of the golf courses that I’ve translated from an old site plan. It might not
be totally accurate.

I know I’ve rattled on too long but I do have one last observation. Everyone
talks about the Esuri community. I had no sense of that while we were there.
I consider myself a gregarious person but the people we encountered or tried
to strike up conversations with were at best stand-offish at worst blatantly
unfriendly. Maybe it will change, I hope so.

Chris

Gary & Julie Selkirk Sep 25th 2006 10:57 pm

Re: Ayamonte - Costa Esuri - Part IV
 

Originally Posted by Ragomuffin
Hi All,

We’ve just returned from a ten day mission to furnish our apartment and
wanted to share some good and bad experiences in an effort to help those
faced with similar tasks in future.

On day two, after cleaning the apartment, a major task in itself, we bought
all our white goods and other electrodomesticos (TV, DVD, CD, hoover,
toaster, kettle etc.) from Master Cadena Guerrero in Ayamonte. Eduardo
speaks excellent English and was extremely helpful, all items were delivered
next day from stock and fitted free of charge. The overall price was less
than we budgeted and a lot less than comparable products in the UK.

Our terrace furniture was from Outdoor Living just off the road to Isla
Canela near Egg in Nest as recommended by Furniture Frontera and lighting
from Hiper Lamparas at Cartaya, again both gave fantastic service and value.

While in Cartaya, we stocked up at Carrefour, which is excellent.

Two days gone and we’re bang on schedule. This is a piece of p##s we
thought...then the wheels fell off.

We had decided to buy our main furniture from Ikea and had arranged to meet
Liz and Denny from Don Campo - http://www.doncampo.co.uk to transport our
purchases home. I’m an experienced Ikea shopper and the prospect held little
terror. We followed Liz’s advice and preordered and paid for the larger
items, for which we had cash. We then proceeded to shop for the more
portable items. When we got to the checkout a second time with two very
large trolley loads we proffered a credit card, which was refused. We phoned
the bank who said the problem lay with Ikea but Ikea were totally
intransigent. By this time Liz had arrived and negotiated in Spanish on our
behalf but to no avail. We were made to feel like criminals. I have
travelled extensively in Europe and never had a card refused before.

In the end, as we were getting nowhere, we decided to use a different card.
The officious madam that masqueraded as a manager then decided all the goods
- two trolley loads - would have to be rescanned. This they did and it came
out with a 10 Euro discrepancy in Ikea's favour. Never mind I said, I’ll pay
the extra. But Oh no, that would be far too simple and they proceeded to
scan again. Eventually an hour and a half at the checkout, we left with our
purchases. Throughout the entire saga Liz and Denny were unbelievably
patient and helpful and I cannot recommend their service highly enough. If
you go to Ikea - TAKE CASH, or better still have Don Campo do the whole shop
for you.

Days four and five were spent assembling and fitting, which wasn’t too bad
and on day six which happened to be a Sunday, we decided to have a break for
religious reasons - Chelsea were playing Liverpool.

We went to The Sugar Reef as we hadn’t been before. Oh dear. I don’t often
agree with SLR but JD Wetherspoons and it’s inherent oafish, noisy, lack of
class is alive and well and in Isla Canela. Still, each to their own. Great
result though.

Back to Ikea on Monday for the things that were missing or we forgot, with
cash this time.

More assembly Tuesday. A relax on the beautiful beach at Praia Verde on
Wednesday. Indoors for the day on Thursday while the tail of hurricane
Gordon dropped it’s deluge.

And that’s that. Can’t wait to get back again.

I’m posting a couple of pics that might be of interest along with a drawing
of the golf courses that I’ve translated from an old site plan. It might not
be totally accurate.

I know I’ve rattled on too long but I do have one last observation. Everyone
talks about the Esuri community. I had no sense of that while we were there.
I consider myself a gregarious person but the people we encountered or tried
to strike up conversations with were at best stand-offish at worst blatantly
unfriendly. Maybe it will change, I hope so.

Chris

Thanks for that can you re site the first photo it will not open,cheers Gary.

Ragomuffin Sep 25th 2006 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Gary & Julie Selkirk
Thanks for that can you re site the first photo it will not open,cheers Gary.

Sorry, i didn't convert to RGB!

Tricia Sep 25th 2006 11:16 pm

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I know I’ve rattled on too long but I do have one last observation. Everyone
talks about the Esuri community. I had no sense of that while we were there.
I consider myself a gregarious person but the people we encountered or tried
to strike up conversations with were at best stand-offish at worst blatantly
unfriendly. Maybe it will change, I hope so.

Chris[/QUOTE]

Ah, never mind Chris, I'll be neighbourly and give you a smile :) , especially seeing as we are sort of neighbours in England, Chingford to be precise.

Tricia

Ragomuffin Sep 25th 2006 11:24 pm

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Ah, never mind Chris, I'll be neighbourly and give you a smile :) , especially seeing as we are sort of neighbours in England, Chingford to be precise.

Tricia[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that, you've made my day.


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