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I think you will find that " those who loftily defend the Spanish system" actually, are just trying to explain the system, the impacts, and how to avoid it, the ultimate last resort being to move. It then becomes your choice. You may not like the answer, but shooting the messenger will not change the message. What you decide to do, is your choice, but I personally believe that you should make an informed choice.

I agree with that. Just to clear I hate paying tax. Besides paying a shed load here, I'm still paying quite a bit in the UK. What you want may eventually come to pass, but it will require fiscal union, which in my view, the EU is slowly moving towards. Part of it is already in place with the Euro. Having said, it won't apply in the UK, unless they join the Eurp, which I see as unlikely in the short t medium term.

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I only feel it is relevant because some posters have said that Spanish people - and lawyers advice to ignore modelo 720

In my experience that is not the case

There is nothing glamorous about being a tax lawyer by the way, why on earth would I want to boast about someone I know having such a dull job :D

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Yes correct

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I never even thought that you were boasting , (funny that you thought, that I thought you were boasting, though) :)I was just pointing out that is was gettting repetetive.

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A word of caution. Some town halls have started to send out letters to people registered on the padron to present themselves at the town hall to verify they are still resident. I've never known that to happen before.

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But as there is a small charge for the privilege it's another way of getting money out of the peasants! :huh:

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So they not only expect you to step forward and face the firing squad, they expect you to pay for the privilege as well. :huh:

I should Coco. :frown:

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This happened to us last year - so it's nothing new.

It would have been OK but they had forgotten my son - he was only 13 but apparently doesn't live here any more :confused:

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And from me, although (thank goodness) no longer applicable to me. Fred is a mine of useful and accurate information on this complicated subject, thanks FRED!

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I think this is more unnecessary alarm. My OH received such a letter last December, requiring him to renew his details as it was more than 5 years since we'd registered on the padron, and I had read reports of it happening in other areas well before that. I don't think it has anything to do with asset reporting, I don't blame the Ayuntamientos for wanting to get their records in order as I don't suppose many people bother to tell them when they move.

Btw Meg, there is no charge in my area, nor do they charge for updated empadronamiento certificates if you request one (at least at present they don't, if they decide to start doing it I don't think I'll leave the country because of it!).

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As part of dealing with Graham´s will the notary asked me to go to get a new padron certificate to show when his ended and it cost me the princely sum of 65 cents to cover the cost of printing!!!!!!! No definitely not a reason to leave.

Rosemary

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Haven't been here too long but have heard of it.
Our local town hall definitely have a listing from those who haven't been in for a couple of years - some English names in amongst them
Just haven't heard of them sending letters, although it isn't everyone who even drives past the town hall letalone calls in to look at the notices.
:sneaky:

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We received a letter and took our passport, residencia etc to the town hall, to check all the details were correct. As we had renewed our passports they entered the new number on their records. Its an updating exercise and there are no problems doing it.

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There is no longer a statutory requirement to renew your entry (unless you are non EU). However the Padron is essentially the official ongoing census and it is important that it is correct.

If a municipality (or the Government) thinks that the list has got out of date due to people not deregistering when they leave there is an obligation to correct it and that means that they can ask you to re-register to get it all up to date.

It has happened in a few localities down here in the south over the last few years.

As yet, there is no reason to connect it with the asset declaration requirements.

Many towns have encouraged foreign property owners to sign on the Padron as it possibly increases the funding they get from central government but officially you cannot sign on the Padron unless you live there permanently.

There is clearly a risk that Hacienda could ask for the details of Padron entries and assume that people on it were tax resident.

If you are not actually tax resident in Spain my advice would be not to sign on and if already on it to de-register.

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That was what I was thinking Fred some may have signed but not been living permenantly there or not tax resident. For instance I spoke to someone tbe other day to find out how they managed to buy and register a car in Spain but not resident. They had signed on padron and said you didn't have live full time to do so which I said I thought was incorrect.