Another Franco anniversary over.
Nov 30th 2010, 6:40 pm
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Re: Another Franco anniversary over.
Darling boy. It is terribly sweet of you to pull my plonker like this, but next time flowers and a meal first?
Here we go.
1. "Crimes against the state apply to democracies as well as dictatorships."
Yeah, but at least under a democracy I am less likely to be shot in the head and left by the side of the road as a warning to my family.
2. "With regard to being banged up, apart from total freedom, "
Total freedom? This is so silly I can't parody it. Sorry about that.
3. "prisoners enjoy almost as many rights as everyone else, in addition to the numerous benefits they get free of charge, courtesy of the honest taxpayer."
So what about dishonest taxpayers? Do they not have to contribute to this jamboree? List the rights and benefits. If you can't, then sadly we will have to accept that you are simply parroting Mailspeak.
4. " I don't know on what evidence you describe prison as a ghastly place.
Having never been there myself, I have no personal experience."
Me neither. I haven't gone over Niagara falls in a barrel, but I think my evaluation of it as wet, bumpy and noisy will stand as being pretty accurate.
5. "However the fact that many habitual criminals seem happy to repeatedly spend time there, sometimes by choice, seems to speak for itself"
Yes, but what does it say? It says that stupid people who make bad choices are unlikely to change. Institutionalised is a big word, but I think it bears merit applying it to this, don't you?
What would I do if I were robbed of all I had and thrown out onto the streets with nothing? I'd use my brain, and if I had no chance of ever regaining what I had, and a miserable life on the streets was all that I was faced with then I'd figure that the stae could look after me in jail if it wouldn't help me any other way.
However that would only be because the alternative was worse.
Mail readers are happy to parrot the shite that living in jail is luxury, because all too often they are inadequates whose personal spite to the rest of humanity is so great that the like nothing better than having someone who is lower down the food chain than them so that they have someone to look down on.
These people love having paedophiles around, because no matter how inadequate they are they still outrank paedos, and they can boost their own pitiful sense of self worth by abusing them.
Here we go.
1. "Crimes against the state apply to democracies as well as dictatorships."
Yeah, but at least under a democracy I am less likely to be shot in the head and left by the side of the road as a warning to my family.
2. "With regard to being banged up, apart from total freedom, "
Total freedom? This is so silly I can't parody it. Sorry about that.
3. "prisoners enjoy almost as many rights as everyone else, in addition to the numerous benefits they get free of charge, courtesy of the honest taxpayer."
So what about dishonest taxpayers? Do they not have to contribute to this jamboree? List the rights and benefits. If you can't, then sadly we will have to accept that you are simply parroting Mailspeak.
4. " I don't know on what evidence you describe prison as a ghastly place.
Having never been there myself, I have no personal experience."
Me neither. I haven't gone over Niagara falls in a barrel, but I think my evaluation of it as wet, bumpy and noisy will stand as being pretty accurate.
5. "However the fact that many habitual criminals seem happy to repeatedly spend time there, sometimes by choice, seems to speak for itself"
Yes, but what does it say? It says that stupid people who make bad choices are unlikely to change. Institutionalised is a big word, but I think it bears merit applying it to this, don't you?
What would I do if I were robbed of all I had and thrown out onto the streets with nothing? I'd use my brain, and if I had no chance of ever regaining what I had, and a miserable life on the streets was all that I was faced with then I'd figure that the stae could look after me in jail if it wouldn't help me any other way.
However that would only be because the alternative was worse.
Mail readers are happy to parrot the shite that living in jail is luxury, because all too often they are inadequates whose personal spite to the rest of humanity is so great that the like nothing better than having someone who is lower down the food chain than them so that they have someone to look down on.
These people love having paedophiles around, because no matter how inadequate they are they still outrank paedos, and they can boost their own pitiful sense of self worth by abusing them.
Your weird ramblings seems to be the result of a severe attack of daily wail paranoia, based soley on your opinion rather than fact,and ending up with some mutterings about paedophiles,though how on earth they crept into the equation I must confess is way beyiond me.
In any event I can assure you that my remarks about prisoners did not originate in your least favourite rag, but as a result of live interviews both TV and Radio and backed by some fairly convincing evidence.
Nov 30th 2010, 6:47 pm
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Re: Another Franco anniversary over.
Sorry to disappoint you Darling, but I can assure you that pulling your plonker is about the furthest possible thing from my mind, despite the fact you dropped yourself in it with your previous post.
Your weird ramblings seems to be the result of a severe attack of daily wail paranoia, based soley on your opinion rather than fact,and ending up with some mutterings about paedophiles,though how on earth they crept into the equation I must confess is way beyiond me.
In any event I can assure you that my remarks about prisoners did not originate in your least favourite rag, but as a result of live interviews both TV and Radio and backed by some fairly convincing evidence.
Your weird ramblings seems to be the result of a severe attack of daily wail paranoia, based soley on your opinion rather than fact,and ending up with some mutterings about paedophiles,though how on earth they crept into the equation I must confess is way beyiond me.
In any event I can assure you that my remarks about prisoners did not originate in your least favourite rag, but as a result of live interviews both TV and Radio and backed by some fairly convincing evidence.
Be serious for a moment. Answer us this. How shit would your life have to be before Jail were better?
I know they get 'everything' free, and I'm sure they have enormous security in knowing that they are safe at night (unless their cell mate happens to be a violent sociopath, or a sodomitic one.) It's just that I find it hard to think of what kind of life you would have to have before you turned around and said 'Jail is better than this.'
Nov 30th 2010, 8:00 pm
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Re: Another Franco anniversary over.
I really don't know what problem you have, you sound like someone that needs to relax some.
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Nov 30th 2010, 8:25 pm
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I think I will simply refer the honerable gentleman to my previous answer.
I am rather relaxed at the moment, and will be off to my comfortable super kingsize for even more relaxation.
Do feel free to reply when you have the answer to my question. I was smart enough to ask it. Declining to answer it demonstrates you aren't.
I am rather relaxed at the moment, and will be off to my comfortable super kingsize for even more relaxation.
Do feel free to reply when you have the answer to my question. I was smart enough to ask it. Declining to answer it demonstrates you aren't.
Dec 1st 2010, 8:16 am
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Re: Another Franco anniversary over.
I can't believe that people here are saying prison is 'comfortable' and using the Mail as 'evidence' of this!
How about someone has a go at answering bil/cricketman's question? I'll repeat it
How about someone has a go at answering bil/cricketman's question? I'll repeat it
How shit would your life have to be before Jail were better?
Dec 1st 2010, 8:33 am
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Re: Another Franco anniversary over.
You'd have to live somewhere like..... Wales?
Dec 1st 2010, 8:37 am
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Re: Another Franco anniversary over.
Trouble is, I've also come down with the mañana virus, so an increasing amount of stuff gets put off to a mythical tomorrow.
Dec 1st 2010, 8:45 am
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Re: Another Franco anniversary over.
Lacking what we call a brain, these people look around their homes and start shrieking with outrage that prisoners should live better than 'honest taxpayers'. That's a fun phrase. How many taxpayers are 100% honest?
Now we come to the key point. These idiots then start shrieking that prisoners have more rights than they do and live in luxury.
So people like us then say, 1. please define what you mean by luxury and 2) please define what you describe as a right.
You then get a lot of bluster, abuse and garbage thrown at you in a desperate attempt to muddy the water so that they can escape without everyone realising that all they have been doing was parroting the venom and spite printed by a newspaper that actually has no facts to back them up.
Dec 1st 2010, 9:04 am
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Dec 1st 2010, 9:34 am
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Dec 1st 2010, 9:40 am
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Re: Another Franco anniversary over.
On a lighter note, it was ages before I realised what the song 'Jailhouse rock' was all about, when someone explained that 'rock and roll' was then current slang for sex.
As that star of country music, Otis Lee Crenshaw who deconstructed the song said, "When another prisoner says to you 'You are the cutest jailbird I ever did see.' It only remains to get the wedding invitations printed."
Dec 1st 2010, 9:56 am
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Oh I love it. And which fount of hard facts was this? Why, that'll be the Daily Mail.
You are so right. WHAT a life of comfort and luxury they lead. It makes me want to walk out of the nice warm house that I own and comment a truly horrific crime so that the terrible hardships I suffer here will cease to trouble me. Never again will I wonder which part of the garden I should weed, or maybe go to the beach, no more need I cook what ever I like, oh how I could go on.
Tell me, what would be the best way I can leave this hell hole I live in and move to one of her majesty's luxury jails?
You are so right. WHAT a life of comfort and luxury they lead. It makes me want to walk out of the nice warm house that I own and comment a truly horrific crime so that the terrible hardships I suffer here will cease to trouble me. Never again will I wonder which part of the garden I should weed, or maybe go to the beach, no more need I cook what ever I like, oh how I could go on.
Tell me, what would be the best way I can leave this hell hole I live in and move to one of her majesty's luxury jails?
I don't see that anyone has posted a link, directly connecting it with soft prisons, however I am sure there are plenty, just as I'm also sure that there are hundreds of alternative sources which express exactly the same opinion.
I am beginning to wonder if you are in fact a secret Daily Mail reader, which could well account for your apparent paranoia and seemingly depressed state of mind.