Animal welfare in Spain
#16
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Re: Animal welfare in Spain
I've just read it, thats common practice I've seen loads of horses with their feet tied together and many a dog left with no food, shelter or water. My hubby was working for a spanish family for a couple of weeks and he said they only came every 3 days to feed it. It was tied to a barrel with about a metre of rope which it kept getting tangled in and never had water. He used to give it water and some of his lunch. I love dogs thats why I couldnt bear it. They were always lying in the road after being knocked over. My own dog was stolen (probably bye gypsies) never to be seen again. My other dog that I rescued from the dogs home had his ears cut off with a scissors when he was a tiny pup. We had him for 11 months until one night he escaped out of the fence came back 4 hours later having convulsions, we ran around in the car franticly looking for a vet and watched him dye in the back seat. That was the turning point for us after that I couldnt be happy there. Even the two dogs I have now I found on the edge of a busy main road. There are more stories but I'll tell them later.
Another method often seen in Spain, and indeed here on our village common in England, is to tether the horse using length of chain. In both cases the animals should have access to water and be attended at least twice a day to check their wellbeing but in any event, they quickly become used to it and are perfectly fine.
#17
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Re: Animal welfare in Spain
You know I can believe this but have never given it a thought before. We had a dog lost a leg and run around for 8 years on three quite happy so I could imagine a horse coping with leg restraints. I think the key is if you took a horse that had roamed free in a grassy field in the UK and dumped it Spain and tied it up it would suffer terribly. Its all about what they are used to in that department. So long as food and water and veterinary care is in abundance I guess all is well
#18
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I've seen ponies kept hobbled in their stables. Now, what's the point in that? Have also seen plenty of horses kept tethered on short ropes and with no water or a kicked-over water bucket.
There is a road near here we have nicknamed "dead dog alley" because there are always dead (run over) dogs every few metres along its length.
I once denounced someone to SEPRONA for keeping 5 dogs tied up on short chains in contravention of the Animals Act at an empty house with only irregular visits for feeding. That was rejected.
And then of course there is the issue of the disposal by hunters of their tired out greyhounds by hanging them to die from a tree. There was a case a couple of years ago where a hunter hung a pregnant greyhound to die - she gave birth while slowly dying. How inhumane is that?
The whole issue is one of the things that I dislike about this culture. But I do know some Spaniards who are as caring about their animals as "we" (I) are (am).
There is a road near here we have nicknamed "dead dog alley" because there are always dead (run over) dogs every few metres along its length.
I once denounced someone to SEPRONA for keeping 5 dogs tied up on short chains in contravention of the Animals Act at an empty house with only irregular visits for feeding. That was rejected.
And then of course there is the issue of the disposal by hunters of their tired out greyhounds by hanging them to die from a tree. There was a case a couple of years ago where a hunter hung a pregnant greyhound to die - she gave birth while slowly dying. How inhumane is that?
The whole issue is one of the things that I dislike about this culture. But I do know some Spaniards who are as caring about their animals as "we" (I) are (am).
#19
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Re: Animal welfare in Spain
I've seen ponies kept hobbled in their stables. Now, what's the point in that? Have also seen plenty of horses kept tethered on short ropes and with no water or a kicked-over water bucket.
There is a road near here we have nicknamed "dead dog alley" because there are always dead (run over) dogs every few metres along its length.
I once denounced someone to SEPRONA for keeping 5 dogs tied up on short chains in contravention of the Animals Act at an empty house with only irregular visits for feeding. That was rejected.
And then of course there is the issue of the disposal by hunters of their tired out greyhounds by hanging them to die from a tree. There was a case a couple of years ago where a hunter hung a pregnant greyhound to die - she gave birth while slowly dying. How inhumane is that?
The whole issue is one of the things that I dislike about this culture. But I do know some Spaniards who are as caring about their animals as "we" (I) are (am).
There is a road near here we have nicknamed "dead dog alley" because there are always dead (run over) dogs every few metres along its length.
I once denounced someone to SEPRONA for keeping 5 dogs tied up on short chains in contravention of the Animals Act at an empty house with only irregular visits for feeding. That was rejected.
And then of course there is the issue of the disposal by hunters of their tired out greyhounds by hanging them to die from a tree. There was a case a couple of years ago where a hunter hung a pregnant greyhound to die - she gave birth while slowly dying. How inhumane is that?
The whole issue is one of the things that I dislike about this culture. But I do know some Spaniards who are as caring about their animals as "we" (I) are (am).
#21
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Re: Animal welfare in Spain
Sickening reading, why oh, why do they find it necessary to hang dogs, it must be such a slow and painful death.
The trouble is, according to the R.S.P.C.A. animal cruelty is at an alltime high in the U.K. Is this a sign of the times?
The most heartbreaking thing I ever saw was during the last foot and mouth outbreak, when pregnant ewes were giving birth as they were being taken away to be slaughtered and incinerated. Oh and the sight and smell of the burning funeral pyres blotting out the beautiful Lakeland hills.
The trouble is, according to the R.S.P.C.A. animal cruelty is at an alltime high in the U.K. Is this a sign of the times?
The most heartbreaking thing I ever saw was during the last foot and mouth outbreak, when pregnant ewes were giving birth as they were being taken away to be slaughtered and incinerated. Oh and the sight and smell of the burning funeral pyres blotting out the beautiful Lakeland hills.
#22
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Re: Animal welfare in Spain
Tying horses feet together is called hobbling. It is a method that has been used traditionally in many countries to prevent the animals straying too far, when land cannot be fenced. Done correctly it should allow the horse to walk in order to find food to graze, whilst restricting its ability to run or wander off any great distance.
Another method often seen in Spain, and indeed here on our village common in England, is to tether the horse using length of chain. In both cases the animals should have access to water and be attended at least twice a day to check their wellbeing but in any event, they quickly become used to it and are perfectly fine.
Another method often seen in Spain, and indeed here on our village common in England, is to tether the horse using length of chain. In both cases the animals should have access to water and be attended at least twice a day to check their wellbeing but in any event, they quickly become used to it and are perfectly fine.
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Re: Animal welfare in Spain
Tying horses feet together is called hobbling. It is a method that has been used traditionally in many countries to prevent the animals straying too far, when land cannot be fenced. Done correctly it should allow the horse to walk in order to find food to graze, whilst restricting its ability to run or wander off any great distance.
Another method often seen in Spain, and indeed here on our village common in England, is to tether the horse using length of chain. In both cases the animals should have access to water and be attended at least twice a day to check their wellbeing but in any event, they quickly become used to it and are perfectly fine.
Another method often seen in Spain, and indeed here on our village common in England, is to tether the horse using length of chain. In both cases the animals should have access to water and be attended at least twice a day to check their wellbeing but in any event, they quickly become used to it and are perfectly fine.
When visiting last month we note that the field now contains a gorgeous gangly legged foal.
Oh, and a family of goats who have decided that their main objective in life is to break through the fence into the neighbouring property, eat everything in sight, climb onto the roof terrace and bleat at us as loudly as they can everytime we sit on our front porch. They are however very entertaining, in small doses!!
#25
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Re: Animal welfare in Spain
By the kindness of Sue and jdr, I have been granted permission to re-start a thread that has been locked entitled 'Treament of animals in Spain'.
I'd be very grateful to read any comments, good or bad about your views on how animals - particularly dogs and cats - are treated in Spain.
I'd be very grateful to read any comments, good or bad about your views on how animals - particularly dogs and cats - are treated in Spain.
#26
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Re: Animal welfare in Spain
I hope it is not bad out there when ever i have been out there for holidays i have seen a lot of strays
#27
Re: Animal welfare in Spain
[There's a Mastín puppy nearby, in a field of sheep and goats. She craves our attention when we walk past, and I'm afraid I give it! She's now learnt how to get out of the field, so that she can come and have a tummy rub, and play with our dog. However, she can't play properly because she's got a stick tied to her collar - to stop her running too fast amongst the sheep. This has the effect of making her front legs bowed, as she manoeuvres to avoid the stick hitting her.
She's also got a collar that is SO tight! I've been monitoring it as she's been growing (she's about 5 months old) and it's now impossible to get any part of my finger underneath it.
I have spoken to her owner about it twice, and he assures me he's going to sort it out, but......
I have been very tempted to remove both the collar and the stick, but my OH tells me not to interfere with things.
In fact, I've been VERY tempted to offer to buy the puppy, but unfortunately our circumstances won't allow us to do that.]
Hi derbyflan,
You may recall I posted this as part of a response to your original thread about animal treatment/welfare in Spain?
Well, I thought you might like to know the good news!......................
This afternoon I went by her field, and she’s no longer wearing either the tight collar OR the stick!
I was so pleased! Maybe my polite concern about her paid off??
As I said in my previous post, she knows which part of the wall she can climb over, in order to come and see us! That’s never been a problem, because she’ll happily follow me back round to the main gate, and I just let her back into the field.
Not so today!
She’s obviously a bright little cookie – and having played with my German Shepherd and had lots of fuss, she decided that she wanted a bit more fun!
She went straight back to the wall, jumped over and came back round to see us again!
In all, it took me 4 attempts at collecting big bits of rock to make the wall higher, AND an oil drum to do a proper job, before she stopped escaping and reappearing at my feet. So funny – it was like something out of the Keystone Cops!
Anyway, thought you might like to know that she’s looking much more comfortable now.
She’s absolute gorgeous and has such a sweet nature.
If I can ever work out how to add a photo on here, I’ll do it (not terribly technically minded, and OH is away at the moment!)
All the best, Sam.
She's also got a collar that is SO tight! I've been monitoring it as she's been growing (she's about 5 months old) and it's now impossible to get any part of my finger underneath it.
I have spoken to her owner about it twice, and he assures me he's going to sort it out, but......
I have been very tempted to remove both the collar and the stick, but my OH tells me not to interfere with things.
In fact, I've been VERY tempted to offer to buy the puppy, but unfortunately our circumstances won't allow us to do that.]
Hi derbyflan,
You may recall I posted this as part of a response to your original thread about animal treatment/welfare in Spain?
Well, I thought you might like to know the good news!......................
This afternoon I went by her field, and she’s no longer wearing either the tight collar OR the stick!
I was so pleased! Maybe my polite concern about her paid off??
As I said in my previous post, she knows which part of the wall she can climb over, in order to come and see us! That’s never been a problem, because she’ll happily follow me back round to the main gate, and I just let her back into the field.
Not so today!
She’s obviously a bright little cookie – and having played with my German Shepherd and had lots of fuss, she decided that she wanted a bit more fun!
She went straight back to the wall, jumped over and came back round to see us again!
In all, it took me 4 attempts at collecting big bits of rock to make the wall higher, AND an oil drum to do a proper job, before she stopped escaping and reappearing at my feet. So funny – it was like something out of the Keystone Cops!
Anyway, thought you might like to know that she’s looking much more comfortable now.
She’s absolute gorgeous and has such a sweet nature.
If I can ever work out how to add a photo on here, I’ll do it (not terribly technically minded, and OH is away at the moment!)
All the best, Sam.
#28
Re: Animal welfare in Spain
I have a friend who has a house on the costa blanca,she says there are a lot of people who have got no one to look after their pets whilst they come back to the uk for a few days/weeks,I should imangine that this would be a problem,I thought it would be a idea to open a kennells in Spain,She says she dosent know of any kennels in her area of Spain, I wonder if this is the case throughout ,I have thought of opening one myself, or perhaps a dog/pet sitting service,I dont know if this would be a idea
#29
Re: Animal welfare in Spain
Yessss Here's how to do it.....
click on reply (or quote), then scroll down to 'Manage Attachments' click on that. You then have another window where you can browse your pics in your pc, chose the one you want to add and click on 'upload'. Wait for it to load and that's it
Now take a pic of that cute little dog, I want to see it
Last edited by Lionda; Mar 10th 2007 at 5:34 pm. Reason: typo
#30
Re: Animal welfare in Spain
Yessss Here's how to do it.....
click on reply (or quote), then scroll down to 'Manage Attachments' click on that. You then have another window where you can browse your pics in your pc, chose the one you want to add and click on 'upload'. Wait for it to load and that's it
Now take a pic of that cute little dog, I want to see it
click on reply (or quote), then scroll down to 'Manage Attachments' click on that. You then have another window where you can browse your pics in your pc, chose the one you want to add and click on 'upload'. Wait for it to load and that's it
Now take a pic of that cute little dog, I want to see it