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Animal barbarism in Spain

Old Dec 18th 2009, 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
the Galgo has always been one of the mst publicised breeds for ill treatment in Spain.

I am against animal cruelty in whatever form it takes, be it donkeys, monkeys, bears, dogs, bulls, birds,

But I think most rational people are............
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Old Dec 18th 2009, 7:09 am
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But I think most rational people are............
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Crikey glad I went out last night ... party getting a bit rough here

For the record, I'm against cruelty to anything/people that breathes
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Originally Posted by JLFS
the Galgo has always been one of the mst publicised breeds for ill treatment in Spain.

I am against animal cruelty in whatever form it takes, be it donkeys, monkeys, bears, dogs, bulls, birds,

But I think most rational people are............
I'm also against cruelty to people... and that's the big problem

We let millions of people each year starve, have lack of water, have dirty water, die from diseases that are easily preventables etc.. all becuase we are greedy and selfish

I'd rather save a person than save a donkey
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Old Dec 18th 2009, 7:15 am
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Actually cricketman has raised a much bigger point. While I do find it hypocritical that people bang on endlessly about animals rights while they stand by and allow chickens and livestock in general to be raised in filth and misery worldwide its the way we treat our fellow man that really has to be looked at in more depth.
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
Now bull fighting is obviously done to death,
It is indeed, but still very much alive and kicking here, I'm sure they'd appreciate reading some of your valuable input.
http://blogs.20minutos.es/arsenioesc...corridas-toros
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Old Dec 18th 2009, 9:55 am
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It does make me wince though, when you see a guy about to be separated from the BanCO JONES..........

By the way did he go on to father any children?
He was allegedly a brave bull fighter, but I believe that was his last.

Search out the other bullfighting thread, I think Ironpoorer posted some info on him in it.
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He was allegedly a brave bull fighter, but I believe that was his last.
I have to say I'm neither for or against bullfighting, but I'm always impressed when some of these matadors suffer a goring, very often they are back fighting within a few weeks! Unlike the prima donna footballers, a slight twinge and they are off for weeks. I guess they get paid whether they play or not, I doubt matadors get any money if they don't fight. Personally, they couldn't pay me enough to dress up in tights, give me a cape, and get me to stand in front of 500-700kgs of fighting bull. Despite all the antitaurinos telling us the bull is drugged, has grease smeared on it's eyes, horns have been shaved etc.
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Why do we have to go trough this again? Spain (The Spain that I know) takes a different view on animals than we do. Donkey´s are to work on the land, Dogs to guard the house, Cats to catch mice, Birds to keep in tiny cages and make pretty sounds. Bulls to die brave in a blaze of Glory.
Here animals have another purpose than to be a housepet.
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Old Dec 18th 2009, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by Jur
Why do we have to go trough this again? Spain (The Spain that I know) takes a different view on animals than we do. Donkey´s are to work on the land, Dogs to guard the house, Cats to catch mice, Birds to keep in tiny cages and make pretty sounds. Bulls to die brave in a blaze of Glory.
Here animals have another purpose than to be a housepet.
Careful you almost look like you are endorsing cruelty.



(Please note, I am not suggesting you are, simply saying it might look that way to certain posters)
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Old Dec 18th 2009, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
Careful you almost look like you are endorsing cruelty.



(Please note, I am not suggesting you are, simply saying it might look that way to certain posters)
Sounds fair enough to me

Animals love working anyway, better than sitting on the sofa getting fat
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Old Dec 18th 2009, 12:40 pm
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Why do we have to go trough this again? Spain (The Spain that I know) takes a different view on animals than we do. Donkey´s are to work on the land, Dogs to guard the house, Cats to catch mice, Birds to keep in tiny cages and make pretty sounds. Bulls to die brave in a blaze of Glory.
Here animals have another purpose than to be a housepet.
Some valid points, but there are still horses working the land in England, dogs are kept to guard homes, cats to catch mice, canaries to sing, but they don’t have bulls bred for sport, unless you count the pit-bulls bred to guard the drug dealers and entertain the No-nos on rough housing estates.

So the only thing different is the bulls, and if the great majority of Spanish people get their way, the bull rings will be demolished in the same way as Franco’s statues.

(Personally I think that both should be kept as historical reminders of the past}.
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Some valid points, but there are still horses working the land in England, dogs are kept to guard homes, cats to catch mice, canaries to sing, but they don’t have bulls bred for sport, unless you count the pit-bulls bred to guard the drug dealers and entertain the No-nos on rough housing estates.

So the only thing different is the bulls, and if the great majority of Spanish people get their way, the bull rings will be demolished in the same way as Franco’s statues.

(Personally I think that both should be kept as historical reminders of the past}.
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Some valid points, but there are still horses working the land in England, dogs are kept to guard homes, cats to catch mice, canaries to sing, but they don’t have bulls bred for sport, unless you count the pit-bulls bred to guard the drug dealers and entertain the No-nos on rough housing estates.

So the only thing different is the bulls, and if the great majority of Spanish people get their way, the bull rings will be demolished in the same way as Franco’s statues.

(Personally I think that both should be kept as historical reminders of the past}.
Would you have liked Germany to have kept their statues of Hitler and other Nazis?
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