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Advice for relocating please, possibly Murcia

Old Nov 19th 2014, 8:32 am
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Here in Yorkshire, it's 16.45, pitch dark, damp and cold (about 7 degrees). You're missing nothing!
Well today we've had 12c thats about average but the wind is really chilly. Then from 5pm we've had the log burner in the lounge lit each night this week. Don't let the fact that it is sunny Spain fool you into thinking its warm all the time. When you drive the motorways around Madrid and see dozens of snowploughs parked up in compounds off to the sides of the road during the summer months, they aren't in storage for shipping to other countries. They are for use on the motorways come the winter, thats how bad it can be in Spain!
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Old Nov 19th 2014, 8:39 am
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8.5 early this morning in Mazarron!
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Old Nov 19th 2014, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Of course it is also around twice the price in the Costa Brava and there are some villages where you need to be a millionnaire to afford to live there
Yes there are millionaires, but it isn't more expensive than other parts of Spain. In Almeria you could find plenty of apartments for 30K, which you can't find around the Costa Brava I agree, but a smaller house with garden near the coast can be found just as cheap as other places.

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Old Nov 19th 2014, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
Yes there are millionaires, but it isn't more expensive than other parts of Spain. In Almeria you could find plenty of apartments for 30K, which you can't find around the Costa Brava I agree, but a smaller house with garden near the coast can be found just as cheap as other places.
That's a bit misleading, there are huge price variations across the whole of Spain depending on exactly where the properties are

For example, you can get a 3 bed flat in Valencia for 60k (not a nice one admittedly). That isnt going to happen in Barcelona

In the pretty fishing villages on the Costa Brava property is very expensive, think Cadaqués or Calella de Palafrugell. But if you go a little in land prices drop rapidly e.g. the price of property in Palafrugell is half the price of Calella de Palafrugell. But then again, Calella is beautiful and Palafrugell is ugly
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Old Nov 19th 2014, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by cricketman
That's a bit misleading, there are huge price variations across the whole of Spain depending on exactly where the properties are

For example, you can get a 3 bed flat in Valencia for 60k (not a nice one admittedly). That isnt going to happen in Barcelona

In the pretty fishing villages on the Costa Brava property is very expensive, think Cadaqués or Calella de Palafrugell. But if you go a little in land prices drop rapidly e.g. the price of property in Palafrugell is half the price of Calella de Palafrugell. But then again, Calella is beautiful and Palafrugell is ugly
Of course there are differences, but just saying that Costa Brava is more affordable than people think. Of course you'll pay a premium to have a sea view and there is less choice because it's not so overbuilt, but we couldn't find similar around Almeria for the price we paid, unless it was an apartment. I don't know if Palafrugell is ugly, but it will be better than most overbuilt areas on the Costa Blanca.
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Old Nov 19th 2014, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
Of course there are differences, but just saying that Costa Brava is more affordable than people think. Of course you'll pay a premium to have a sea view and there is less choice because it's not so overbuilt, but we couldn't find similar around Almeria for the price we paid, unless it was an apartment. I don't know if Palafrugell is ugly, but it will be better than most overbuilt areas on the Costa Blanca.
Flat overlooking the beach in Torrevieja = 30k

Flat overlooking beach in Cadaques = 500k

That is your difference

Obviously the flat in Cadaques will be way nicer in a much prettier and more exclusive town, but a lot of British people just want sun and sand and somewhere that sells a pint and speaks English. In that respect, they would be better off in Torrevieja
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Flat overlooking the beach in Torrevieja = 30k

Flat overlooking beach in Cadaques = 500k

That is your difference

Obviously the flat in Cadaques will be way nicer in a much prettier and more exclusive town, but a lot of British people just want sun and sand and somewhere that sells a pint and speaks English. In that respect, they would be better off in Torrevieja
Again depends what you want. You probably won't even find an apartment in Cadaques, because there are hardly any for sale. We're only 5 min away from the coast, but couldn't find a plot of land in Almeria for the price we paid. It just depends what you want and as I said people who are looking for an apartment will be better off in the overcrowded areas.
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Old Nov 19th 2014, 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
It just depends what you want and as I said people who are looking for an apartment will be better off in the overcrowded areas.
Whether you find places "overcrowded" or not is surely a matter of opinion

I prefer living in cities and find the countryside very much "undercrowded".
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Old Nov 19th 2014, 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Whether you find places "overcrowded" or not is surely a matter of opinion

I prefer living in cities and find the countryside very much "undercrowded".
Should have said built up.
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Old Nov 20th 2014, 2:35 am
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So another thing we'll need to consider are heating bills. We are looking to rent a 2 bedroom villa, is the cost of heating expensive in Spain?
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Old Nov 20th 2014, 3:06 am
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Electricity is expensive in Spain, and thusly heating with electricity is expensive.

Most people use gas - a gas boiler with radiators. We spend roughly €150-€200 per month to heat a medium-sized house - starting about now through March. Neil just fired up the boiler last weekend.

But we also don't keep it anywhere near "hot" inside. Usually maximum 22c, and only runs in the evenings from 18:00-22:00, and 06:00-10:00.

Insulation is rare in Spain, yet ironically is probably the single best thing you can do to minimise heating and cooling costs. We are "mostly" insulated, but we still have some work to do.
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Old Nov 20th 2014, 9:45 pm
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Thanks for your replies - again these are all things that we need to think about. I was speaking to my sister in law about it, and she said Tenerife has the weather we're looking for, and, unlike Lanzarote, it is quite green in the north (Lanzarote was a bit too barren and black for me). It's also a bigger island with more going on for ex pats and they don't import absolutely everything either.

So it looks as though we're going to be researching Tenerife over the weekend!
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Old Dec 15th 2014, 1:21 am
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Hello,

Lanzarote is not the best choice.
1. Firstly you will be isolated (as it is an island)
2. the products are expensive (due to the issue of logistics)
3. Nothing to do there (it will certainly get you if you will stay there for a longer time). Nowhere to go, even with the car.
4. To move your belonging there will be expensive.

I do not know much about Murcia, but we live in Alicante and we are very happy. There's lots to do and to see, life is cheep and the climate is the best in Spain. Moreover there are lots of entertainment. No problems with transportation, no traffic. Easy living. The city accepts several international events, like Vovlo Ocean Race. You cans do all kinds of sports here (sailing, suckling, climbing, golfing etc.).
And the prices for the real estate are much lower than in costa del sol region. The real estate agent gave us a lot of nice houses to choose from.

Good luck with the choice!
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Old Dec 15th 2014, 1:31 am
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Wise Man tell us more about this pastime of "suckling"
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Old Dec 15th 2014, 1:38 am
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Cha cha) good one!

Cycling that was....unfortunately no suckling
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