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In a previous post some time back, EMR admitted that he only had 1mb, so you can tell that he's a real expert on the subject!

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:lol:

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I think part of what he was saying is that many of us live in the campo and NOT on an urbanisation on the coast with many more Brits. Consequently, our ability to pick up good, fast and reliable internet is not in our hands. We have to take what we can get!

It's all very well saying that IPTV is the way forward but until Spain sorts out the monopoly that is Movistar and improves the infrastructure, many of us will
simply have to 'make do'.

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In my experience, 'make do' will be sufficient.

I never, ever get higher than 448kbps upload and less than 4mbps on download but it works for me. If you have a computer, take their free (except for refundable paypal GBpounds1) 3 day trial.

I used it in a Barcelona hotel with a rubbish Wi-FI connection and a quite inadequate internet bandwidth. But it worked. It worked so well they asked me to hook it up to their large TV in the bar/lounge! I never realised Only Fools and Horses was so popular at 3:30 in the afternoon! Me? I sat outside on the verandah with my complimentary bottle of brewski from the duty manager. :thumbsup:

Makes me wonder why so many moved down here in the first place; all you want is British telly and you've settled in the area that shouldn't (and won't) receive UK TV on satellite and has an internet service incapable of delivery!

The satellite, I'm afraid, you are doomed on, however, the internet can be sorted if you look hard enough.

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I don't think it is that unreasonable to want to watch the TV you have been bought up with anywhere in the world, I think its really is quite unfair both ways, even people in the UK who might want to watch there national channels.

We have freedom of movement, we should be able to have freedom to watch our national channels too.

For me I only really like Radio, most sport, movies, but I can understand others that will miss certain other programmes and sadly although it should not it can have a impact on your living.

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"I don't think it is that unreasonable to want to watch the TV you have been bought up with anywhere in the world, I think its really is quite unfair both ways, even people in the UK who might want to watch there national channels."

Never said it wasn't.

I agree with you, I think its perfectly fine to watch the TV. I do!

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For a long time now EMR and others have been condeming Internet TV and its providers. This is just not on, especially when they have no experience of them!
While I agree that lots of places do not have a decent Internet speed to receive TV, that is a shame, but providers offering a good service should not be slated, especially those that offer a free trial!!
For those of us that have good signals, Internet TV works and works well and is a better option than satellite!!!

John.

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If you read what I say, I have said all along it is LIVE TV quality that is not as good on internet tv when compared to live TV quality from satellite.

I know that "stored" or "delayed" TV can be of much better quality than live, simply as that is stored on servers, rather than on stressed live encoders.


Don't think there is a link, as no one can say or confirm that Sky pay channels reception will not be affected. Of course they will be affected as they will move satellites and beams like all the other channel on Astra satellites.
Like I said in my post, you may lose some channels but gain others....

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HI

So when we move is it not worth buying a dish now then ?

Andy

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Nah.

Get the internet hooked up to your TV and run it through a VPN to a UK endpoint.

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Fine you have a good and reliable enough internet service but just how many of those trying to sell IPTV are honest about the absolute min speeds you need 24hrs day to receive a decent live feed without interruptions etc.
I have tried at busy times and may as well give up and that is without the additional traffic of others who will be trying the same perhaps in the next few months.
The long term reliability of proxy IP address's , Filmon etc another matter and again time will tell on this.

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AS mentioned many time in this and other threads, no-one will know what reception of the new satellite will be like until it is operational.

And so the required dish size for your location will also be unknown until it is operational.

Prior to the first new satellite being operational everyone thought that no-one in Spain would receive the channels on that satellite. However, most of Spain still can - in some areas they can on a 1m dish, in others they need a larger dish.

Like I have said all along, if you can receive a signal via a dish, then best go for that, as the live TV image quality (especially HD) is far superior to internet TV quality. No point in having a nice big 40" HD TV and using a sub-standard definition internet TV system on it!

But yes, in some areas of Spain, it may be that even the larges 3m dish may not be able to receive the signals, in which case then the only alternative is an internet TV solution.

Some systems (mainly android boxes) offer the channels for free without any subscription - filmon, xbmc... others require a monthly subscription, and then some "expat telecos" offer UK TV if you go for their phone and adsl service

There is lots of choice out there... it just depends on what you want, and where you are...

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I will be honest I have not read through the whole thread or others as it constantly changes, I apologise to being ignorant to that, however this is something that is important to me so I thought best to ask now.

Until I have the phoneline / internet put on I don't know how good that will be
when I go to do my first drop of furniture I will ask people in the vicinity about their internet, but I don't think it has fibre all all though :(

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A VPN is not a proxy. No Sir. You can run a proxy within a VPN (if you want) but not the other way round. There is far more overhead (bandwidth, cpu, memory, etc) in running a proxy either on its own or within a VPN. A proxy, transparent or otherwise, interferes with your browsing far more than a VPN needs to.

And you can try 3 consecutive 24 hour periods for FREE! They must be very devious and complete lying whatnots to try and trick us with a free trial. How dastardly of them. I wonder when they are going to catch me out because I was foolish enough to take out a subscription with them after my trial?


The size of your dish required after 2E is operational? Something in the region of 6 metres and positioned somewhere north of Paris.

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Clearly you fail to understand that many people have Internet speeds far below that level.

The recommended speed for IPTV is 3mb but many connections are well below that and there is little in the way of alternatives apart from expensive satellite connections.

We have a maximum of 3mb but it usually runs at 2.5MB which is actually pretty good. Even then some IPTV is just on the edge. A lot depends on the buffering used but some will cause dropouts at that speed.