26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
Aug 29th 2011, 1:44 pm
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26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
(article in Spanish)
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/...de-empleo.html
The report is from Manpower, and they give some reasons for rejecting a job - low wages, unsociable hours, or the necessity of moving house to get the job.
I have some sympathy for those who reject ridiculously low wages. Who wants to work at a place where the existing staff probably earn more than you, and where the boss is making a lot of money out of you without paying a decent wage? However, it can be argued that any job in the current climate should be accepted.
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/...de-empleo.html
The report is from Manpower, and they give some reasons for rejecting a job - low wages, unsociable hours, or the necessity of moving house to get the job.
I have some sympathy for those who reject ridiculously low wages. Who wants to work at a place where the existing staff probably earn more than you, and where the boss is making a lot of money out of you without paying a decent wage? However, it can be argued that any job in the current climate should be accepted.
Aug 29th 2011, 2:20 pm
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Re: 26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
(article in Spanish)
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/...de-empleo.html
The report is from Manpower, and they give some reasons for rejecting a job - low wages, unsociable hours, or the necessity of moving house to get the job.
I have some sympathy for those who reject ridiculously low wages. Who wants to work at a place where the existing staff probably earn more than you, and where the boss is making a lot of money out of you without paying a decent wage? However, it can be argued that any job in the current climate should be accepted.
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/...de-empleo.html
The report is from Manpower, and they give some reasons for rejecting a job - low wages, unsociable hours, or the necessity of moving house to get the job.
I have some sympathy for those who reject ridiculously low wages. Who wants to work at a place where the existing staff probably earn more than you, and where the boss is making a lot of money out of you without paying a decent wage? However, it can be argued that any job in the current climate should be accepted.
Or could it be that they aren't offering contracts? People are, perhaps, looking for more security these days.
Aug 29th 2011, 2:23 pm
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Re: 26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
(article in Spanish)
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/...de-empleo.html
The report is from Manpower, and they give some reasons for rejecting a job - low wages, unsociable hours, or the necessity of moving house to get the job.
I have some sympathy for those who reject ridiculously low wages. Who wants to work at a place where the existing staff probably earn more than you, and where the boss is making a lot of money out of you without paying a decent wage? However, it can be argued that any job in the current climate should be accepted.
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/...de-empleo.html
The report is from Manpower, and they give some reasons for rejecting a job - low wages, unsociable hours, or the necessity of moving house to get the job.
I have some sympathy for those who reject ridiculously low wages. Who wants to work at a place where the existing staff probably earn more than you, and where the boss is making a lot of money out of you without paying a decent wage? However, it can be argued that any job in the current climate should be accepted.
A friend of mine in BCN has turned down a couple of jobs whilst he has been unemployed the last few years
The reason: the pay is a third less than it used to be 10 years ago, for the same job.
He's lucky that his partner can earn for both of them
Aug 29th 2011, 2:29 pm
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Re: 26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
I'm afraid that is going to be more common than not. I've certainly seen it here in London in differing sectors - IT, decorating, plumbing. Anything that can be done more cheaply by an economic migrant, or outsourced overseas, will be. Funnily enough, the salaries of company directors don't seem to have been affected.
Aug 29th 2011, 3:18 pm
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Re: 26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
I've taken a short term lease on a bankrupt urbanisation ( plenty around )
The bank that took over offered the sales rep her same job at 50% of her previous salary.
She is a single mother and had no choice but to accept the offer
The bank that took over offered the sales rep her same job at 50% of her previous salary.
She is a single mother and had no choice but to accept the offer
Aug 29th 2011, 3:49 pm
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Yes I have a feeling we will be back to a system of surfs and bankers/landowners before too long
Aug 29th 2011, 4:52 pm
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Aug 29th 2011, 4:59 pm
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That is until the whole system goes bust, but hey, they'll be asset rich by then and can bugger off to somewhere comfortable for a bit while the peasants fight it out over some loaves of bread
Btw, have you seen whats been happening in Chile? The students have taken to the streets to demand their right to free education and have vowed to bring down the government if thats what it takes. If British kids were taught any history (and had any balls) thats what they would be doing too.
Instead a few scoundrals went round robbing trainers and stealing bowls of ice cream
Aug 29th 2011, 11:23 pm
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Re: 26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
(article in Spanish)
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/...de-empleo.html
The report is from Manpower, and they give some reasons for rejecting a job - low wages, unsociable hours, or the necessity of moving house to get the job.
I have some sympathy for those who reject ridiculously low wages. Who wants to work at a place where the existing staff probably earn more than you, and where the boss is making a lot of money out of you without paying a decent wage? However, it can be argued that any job in the current climate should be accepted.
http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/...de-empleo.html
The report is from Manpower, and they give some reasons for rejecting a job - low wages, unsociable hours, or the necessity of moving house to get the job.
I have some sympathy for those who reject ridiculously low wages. Who wants to work at a place where the existing staff probably earn more than you, and where the boss is making a lot of money out of you without paying a decent wage? However, it can be argued that any job in the current climate should be accepted.
too many bosses demand 110% loyalty from people without giving even 75% back
Aug 29th 2011, 11:26 pm
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Re: 26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
I know of one company in Spain that is employing people on an initial 6m temp contract, renewing for a further 6m then letting them go for economic reasons - if they are employed on temp for more than 12m they have to be employed permanant.
Aug 30th 2011, 5:39 am
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Aug 30th 2011, 7:34 am
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They may as well go the whole hog and drop the finiquito payment altogether. At least then companies will brave enough to hire people
Aug 30th 2011, 8:06 am
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Re: 26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
The Madrid-based Argentinian entrepreneur Martin Varsavsky discusses options here on how to reduce unemployment - he had a meeting with the PSOE candidate Rubalcaba to discuss this:
http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/o...rubalcaba.html
http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/o...rubalcaba.html
What really and concretely happened to this country is that it went from building 800K new homes a year to building 100K and around 12% of the labor force ended up unemployed. That explains 80% of what is wrong here. The rest of the industries were hurt in this crisis but not as badly as the construction industry. Spain can be turned around if we focus on growing the rest of the economy. So far what happened here is that the growth of Spain was fake, based on increasing debt and not sustainable sectors of the economy. My plan promotes employment in whatever sector may end up hiring without having government try to guess exactly how to grow the economy.
I am happy that Rubalcaba said he would have an economist specialized in tax revenues study my plan. Common sense tells me that my plan is a net revenue generator for the government from day one. Why?
Because it only applies to new employees and only on businesses that increase their work force compared to 2011.
Because there is a pool of 5 million unemployed and net job increases must come to a great percentage from this pool.
Because government stops paying the unemployed the moment they join a business and this produces immediate savings.
Because even if the government does not immediately get social charges they will get social charges over time and anyone making financial projections on tax revenue collections will have this into account. As a result rating agencies will see positive trends on tax collections and ratings will improve, this will lower the cost of borrowing for Spain. Shirking the debt premium produces enormous savings.
I am happy that Rubalcaba said he would have an economist specialized in tax revenues study my plan. Common sense tells me that my plan is a net revenue generator for the government from day one. Why?
Because it only applies to new employees and only on businesses that increase their work force compared to 2011.
Because there is a pool of 5 million unemployed and net job increases must come to a great percentage from this pool.
Because government stops paying the unemployed the moment they join a business and this produces immediate savings.
Because even if the government does not immediately get social charges they will get social charges over time and anyone making financial projections on tax revenue collections will have this into account. As a result rating agencies will see positive trends on tax collections and ratings will improve, this will lower the cost of borrowing for Spain. Shirking the debt premium produces enormous savings.
Aug 30th 2011, 8:14 am
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Re: 26% of unemployed catalans have turned down a job offer
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Aug 30th 2011, 10:29 am
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I do not know if employment law has changed in the UK over the last five years but I worked for a very large British multi-national company that employed temps on 3m contracts for years, after 3 years they often put them on permanent contracts but in the last few years of me working there they stopped any new permanent contracts from shop floor to middle management.
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however, about a year ago a local (uk) company made a number of people redundant. Not a big thing nowadays, but it transpired that over 30% were employed on a temp contract and paid by an agency. One guy had been using the same CNC machine for almost 20 years and hadnt realised (he said) that he wasnt a company employee, he got no redundancy payments whatsoever.
further ISTR it was the HMRC IR35 rulings that were started to stop people leaving a company and setting up their own "trading vehicle" to take advantage of tax loopholes whilst on a "temporary" contract - that lasted for years.
however, uk experiences\reminiscences have no relevance to Spanish employment laws