25 Year old moving to Spain advice
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Re: 25 Year old moving to Spain advice
Working for a lot of global companies over the years, we actually relocated very few people. So I wouldn't want to give Tom the impression that it's something very frequent, but it's definitely possible
It helps enormously when the candidate is motivated and informed. I've interviewed candidates in the past who want to move to "Europe". Or who want to move to a specific country, but have done little or no research on what working and living there really involves. That always makes me doubt whether they will really go through with the process or if they will relocate and then change their mind a year later
If Tom really wants to move to Spain, but is willing to consider a move to France or Portugal instead then I'd suggest he doesn't volunteer the fact that Spain is an eventual desire and he demonstrates some knowledge and commitment to whatever country he is interviewing for a role in. Things like knowing the cost of living, something about the language and customs, it all helps build a picture of a committed relocator, rather than someone who fancies "trying it out"
It helps enormously when the candidate is motivated and informed. I've interviewed candidates in the past who want to move to "Europe". Or who want to move to a specific country, but have done little or no research on what working and living there really involves. That always makes me doubt whether they will really go through with the process or if they will relocate and then change their mind a year later
If Tom really wants to move to Spain, but is willing to consider a move to France or Portugal instead then I'd suggest he doesn't volunteer the fact that Spain is an eventual desire and he demonstrates some knowledge and commitment to whatever country he is interviewing for a role in. Things like knowing the cost of living, something about the language and customs, it all helps build a picture of a committed relocator, rather than someone who fancies "trying it out"
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Re: 25 Year old moving to Spain advice
It doesn't have to be EU, although it's convenient to be able jump on a plane and be back in London in a couple of hours.
Canada does interest me, but obviously I have the problem 2 years down the line that, if I become attached to it and start to form relationships, I can't come back!
Canada does interest me, but obviously I have the problem 2 years down the line that, if I become attached to it and start to form relationships, I can't come back!
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It is the hiring manager who makes the decision about the merits of the candidate in terms of their ability to meet the requirement of the role. However, as raised by another poster this will be within the context of the candidate settling down and not getting the heebie-jeebies and deciding to make a bolt for their home country again. If the hiring manager decides that he likes a particular candidate, it is for HR to sort out the logistics of getting that candidate relocated to the country and the associated paperwork.
As also pointed out by a poster just above, the number of people who do relocate will be relatively few, given all he hurdles. A candidate that does it successfully will need to have a desirable skill set and demonstrate that they have the motivation to make the move a success.
Tom knows best if he has sufficiently marketable skills to attract the interest of a manager in another country.
Moses, you have got my blood pressure up so I am going to go for a menu del dia and get lost in the Loire valley (or the Spanish equivalent), as a bottle of plonk is included.
ATB
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Moses do you understand the recruitment process? HR organise the recruitment process and do the touchy-feely bit to make sure the candidate is OK and there are no red flags. HR may filter candidates at the start or it may be the hiring manager and HR may conduct interviews initially or be involved interviews during the hiring process. It varies from firm to firm, but usually the interview process are formalised process, but saying that some mangers don't even stick to that.
It is the hiring manager who makes the decision about the merits of the candidate in terms of their ability to meet the requirement of the role. However, as raised by another poster this will be within the context of the candidate settling down and not getting the heebie-jeebies and deciding to make a bolt for their home country again. If the hiring manager decides that he likes a particular candidate, it is for HR to sort out the logistics of getting that candidate relocated to the country and the associated paperwork.
As also pointed out by a poster just above, the number of people who do relocate will be relatively few, given all he hurdles. A candidate that does it successfully will need to have a desirable skill set and demonstrate that they have the motivation to make the move a success.
Tom knows best if he has sufficiently marketable skills to attract the interest of a manager in another country.
Moses, you have got my blood pressure up so I am going to go for a menu del dia and get lost in the Loire valley (or the Spanish equivalent), as a bottle of plonk is included.
ATB
It is the hiring manager who makes the decision about the merits of the candidate in terms of their ability to meet the requirement of the role. However, as raised by another poster this will be within the context of the candidate settling down and not getting the heebie-jeebies and deciding to make a bolt for their home country again. If the hiring manager decides that he likes a particular candidate, it is for HR to sort out the logistics of getting that candidate relocated to the country and the associated paperwork.
As also pointed out by a poster just above, the number of people who do relocate will be relatively few, given all he hurdles. A candidate that does it successfully will need to have a desirable skill set and demonstrate that they have the motivation to make the move a success.
Tom knows best if he has sufficiently marketable skills to attract the interest of a manager in another country.
Moses, you have got my blood pressure up so I am going to go for a menu del dia and get lost in the Loire valley (or the Spanish equivalent), as a bottle of plonk is included.
ATB
Have you not heard about the recent frustration with TUI and only candidates with an EU passport can apply. Tom could be highly qualified but it's all down to employment laws in that country.
What about Spain?
In Germany it's now a bit easier:
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/new...-eu-nationals/The new regulation, which among others makes it possible to gain employment in Germany even in jobs that could be filled by Germans or EU nationals, and permits foreigners to come to Germany for up to half a year to seek work, intends to provide easier access to the German labour market for qualified workers from non-EU countries.
It also aims to increase the numbers of the workforce in Germany, as many positions remain vacant due to a lack of skills and workers.
https://avalanding.com/hiring-non-eu-workers-to-spain/
Why is it challenging to hire non-EU workers?
First, Spain’s labor immigration policy is based on the idea that you should hire Spanish nationals or residents in the first place. Therefore, generally, in order to bring in a foreign worker from abroad, you will need to prove that the position that you are hiring for could not be covered by an unemployed worker in Spain. There are ways around this in certain cases, but in those cases where you actually have to prove that the specific foreign worker you want to hire is essential for your company, that extra procedure will imply a longer process and a delay in the incorporation of the worker in your staff and it’s important to be aware of this from the start.Second, in order for you to cover the position in an effective way, it is important for you to be aware of what procedure to follow and plan for realistic processing times so that you do not have to leave a position uncovered for longer than expected. Or, there may even be times where you would very much like to hire a specific person for a position but once properly informed about the options you may just realize that this is not viable because the processing times are too long or the outcome too uncertain. In either case, this article aims to help you in getting a basic understanding of what type of position you can relatively easily process work permits for, for your new non-EU worker, and in what cases you should find European workers to do the job.
Last edited by Moses2013; Dec 22nd 2021 at 1:59 pm.
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It is the hiring manager who makes the decision about the merits of the candidate in terms of their ability to meet the requirement of the role. However, as raised by another poster this will be within the context of the candidate settling down and not getting the heebie-jeebies and deciding to make a bolt for their home country again. If the hiring manager decides that he likes a particular candidate, it is for HR to sort out the logistics of getting that candidate relocated to the country and the associated paperwork.
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Employment wise, EU states will always give priority to EU nationals. Dual UK/EU passport holders will be at an advantage because it's far less hassle for employers. I noticed that the crew on Ryanair were all EU nationals for example.
UK nationals have lost part of their citizenship and rights to freedom of movement which (as people were warned on numerous occasions) has consequences and there is no point in pretending otherwise.
That's not to say it's impossible to be transferred to the EU, but it is much more difficult, it stands to reason.
That is why I would opt for Ireland because freedom of movement is key.
UK nationals have lost part of their citizenship and rights to freedom of movement which (as people were warned on numerous occasions) has consequences and there is no point in pretending otherwise.
That's not to say it's impossible to be transferred to the EU, but it is much more difficult, it stands to reason.
That is why I would opt for Ireland because freedom of movement is key.
Last edited by Lou71; Dec 22nd 2021 at 6:43 pm.
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I voted remain, we lost the vote but I quit the moaning, there's no going back and we have to work to a better future which won't happen overnight.
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Re: 25 Year old moving to Spain advice
Hi guys,
I believe there is always a way around things eventually and I had thought about the gib route, I lost my father in June and my mother 6 days ago(21 December) and have decided enough is enough, as it happens I’ve just bought a place near sabinillas and am seriously thinking about how I can get out there full time, I’m in the construction industry and have started emailing companies about available positions and whether they could sponsor me to get me over full time, any advice will be greatly welcomed.
thanks and good luck Tom.
I believe there is always a way around things eventually and I had thought about the gib route, I lost my father in June and my mother 6 days ago(21 December) and have decided enough is enough, as it happens I’ve just bought a place near sabinillas and am seriously thinking about how I can get out there full time, I’m in the construction industry and have started emailing companies about available positions and whether they could sponsor me to get me over full time, any advice will be greatly welcomed.
thanks and good luck Tom.
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Hi guys,
I believe there is always a way around things eventually and I had thought about the gib route, I lost my father in June and my mother 6 days ago(21 December) and have decided enough is enough, as it happens I’ve just bought a place near sabinillas and am seriously thinking about how I can get out there full time, I’m in the construction industry and have started emailing companies about available positions and whether they could sponsor me to get me over full time, any advice will be greatly welcomed.
thanks and good luck Tom.
I believe there is always a way around things eventually and I had thought about the gib route, I lost my father in June and my mother 6 days ago(21 December) and have decided enough is enough, as it happens I’ve just bought a place near sabinillas and am seriously thinking about how I can get out there full time, I’m in the construction industry and have started emailing companies about available positions and whether they could sponsor me to get me over full time, any advice will be greatly welcomed.
thanks and good luck Tom.
Some idea of where you fit in construction or your qualifications would help
There are thousands of Spaniards and others in construction who cross into Gib daily
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Hi Fred and thanks for the reply,
im a carpenter by trade, nvq level 2 who has also been involved in civil engineering/groundworks for 25yrs plus, started on the ground and have now progressed into management, built houses,schools,hospitals and prisons in the uk. Do you know of any English construction firms that operate in Spain?
thanks.
Dave.
im a carpenter by trade, nvq level 2 who has also been involved in civil engineering/groundworks for 25yrs plus, started on the ground and have now progressed into management, built houses,schools,hospitals and prisons in the uk. Do you know of any English construction firms that operate in Spain?
thanks.
Dave.
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Re: 25 Year old moving to Spain advice
Hi guys,
I believe there is always a way around things eventually and I had thought about the gib route, I lost my father in June and my mother 6 days ago(21 December) and have decided enough is enough, as it happens I’ve just bought a place near sabinillas and am seriously thinking about how I can get out there full time, I’m in the construction industry and have started emailing companies about available positions and whether they could sponsor me to get me over full time, any advice will be greatly welcomed.
thanks and good luck Tom.
I believe there is always a way around things eventually and I had thought about the gib route, I lost my father in June and my mother 6 days ago(21 December) and have decided enough is enough, as it happens I’ve just bought a place near sabinillas and am seriously thinking about how I can get out there full time, I’m in the construction industry and have started emailing companies about available positions and whether they could sponsor me to get me over full time, any advice will be greatly welcomed.
thanks and good luck Tom.
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Hi Moses,
thanks for your reply but I’m struggling to get hold of 500k legally.😀
thanks for your reply but I’m struggling to get hold of 500k legally.😀
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Yes, you can invest in a range of properties if the total investment comes to at least 500k euro. You must pay cash and not buy with a loan or mortgage.
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It also it must all be in the name of the applicant. No joint ownership unless it’s over 1m. It is retrospective to , I think, 2013.