Burning bulls
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Burning bulls
When you read about people wanting to emigrate to Spain for a better life and to immerse themselves in the Spanish culture, perhaps it should be pointed out that this is part of the culture they are seeking
Help Stop the Sadistic 'Fire Bull' Festival in Soria | Take Action | PETA.org.uk - 1
Help Stop the Sadistic 'Fire Bull' Festival in Soria | Take Action | PETA.org.uk - 1
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Re: Burning bulls
Those who do this , and those who condone this are nothing more than barbaric, inhumane barsxxxxs.
What a rotten image of Spain
Do decent Spaniards really want to be associated with this?
What a rotten image of Spain
Do decent Spaniards really want to be associated with this?
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Re: Burning bulls
I wouldn't consider going to a bullfight never mind this barbaric atrocity!!!!
The Spanish government and people should be ashamed of their selves for allowing this, and to call it entertainment,,,,,,,, i would question their sanity!!!
The Spanish government and people should be ashamed of their selves for allowing this, and to call it entertainment,,,,,,,, i would question their sanity!!!
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Re: Burning bulls
I agree with the comments so far, disgusting and barbaric custom and treatment.
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Re: Burning bulls
Sign the petition and show your disgust. I have.
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I am absolutely against cruelty to animals, unfortunately the way this petition is worded means I would have to lie to sign it.
I have not and will not go to anything like this in any country. I cannot see how any decent human could sanction this for any reason. The people who allow these 'events' are as bad if not worse then the people who actually do the evil act.
I have not and will not go to anything like this in any country. I cannot see how any decent human could sanction this for any reason. The people who allow these 'events' are as bad if not worse then the people who actually do the evil act.
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Re: Burning bulls
This is a part of Spanish culture that belongs in the dark ages.
However I will not sign any petition supporting the fanatical peta org
However I will not sign any petition supporting the fanatical peta org
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Yes I too as a meat eater could not sign this without being a hypocritical given the beliefs of the organisation.
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Re: Burning bulls
I suspect the same people who oppose this also oppose the recent beheading in Iran.
I suspect that many people were opposed to Saddam Hussein's treatment of his own people.
The same for Afghanistan where over 80% of the worlds heroin is grown.
Colonel Gaddafi took no prisoners.
Or the Libyan regimes use of chemical weapons.
But yet we impose our Western liberal values and sensitivities on the whole world and feign indignation from behind a keyboard and do nothing practical.
The rest of the world does things differently than us, it doesn't make them wrong.
I suspect that many people were opposed to Saddam Hussein's treatment of his own people.
The same for Afghanistan where over 80% of the worlds heroin is grown.
Colonel Gaddafi took no prisoners.
Or the Libyan regimes use of chemical weapons.
But yet we impose our Western liberal values and sensitivities on the whole world and feign indignation from behind a keyboard and do nothing practical.
The rest of the world does things differently than us, it doesn't make them wrong.
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Re: Burning bulls
PETA are a bunch of ultra loonies.
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Re: Burning bulls
I suspect the same people who oppose this also oppose the recent beheading in Iran.
I suspect that many people were opposed to Saddam Hussein's treatment of his own people.
The same for Afghanistan where over 80% of the worlds heroin is grown.
Colonel Gaddafi took no prisoners.
Or the Libyan regimes use of chemical weapons.
But yet we impose our Western liberal values and sensitivities on the whole world and feign indignation from behind a keyboard and do nothing practical.
The rest of the world does things differently than us, it doesn't make them wrong.
I suspect that many people were opposed to Saddam Hussein's treatment of his own people.
The same for Afghanistan where over 80% of the worlds heroin is grown.
Colonel Gaddafi took no prisoners.
Or the Libyan regimes use of chemical weapons.
But yet we impose our Western liberal values and sensitivities on the whole world and feign indignation from behind a keyboard and do nothing practical.
The rest of the world does things differently than us, it doesn't make them wrong.
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But we are entitled to hold an opinion on it just as we are entitled to hold an opinion on the organisation that posts it. You can agree with one without agreeing with the others principles or everything they stand for.
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Re: Burning bulls
I´m yet to meet a Spaniard in favour of such "fiestas".
Likewise with bull fighting.
I knew many brits in favour of fox hunting, but I think I lived too far south to know any badger baiters.
All of which looks pretty lame to how the chinese fur farms treat those animals!!!
For me, I would put an end to all "death" "sports" but to sign anything by PETA, no can do. Sorry!
Likewise with bull fighting.
I knew many brits in favour of fox hunting, but I think I lived too far south to know any badger baiters.
All of which looks pretty lame to how the chinese fur farms treat those animals!!!
For me, I would put an end to all "death" "sports" but to sign anything by PETA, no can do. Sorry!
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Re: Burning bulls
I know many Spaniards who support la corrida, I also know a vet who works at the bullrings, and I also known the son of a famous bullfighter from the fifties and sixties. It's all part of Life, and in this case, Death. You can't pretend those two states don't exist.
Putting pitch on bulls' horns and setting them on fire (as is done in the Carrebou in Catalonia), is horrible I agree, but is horse racing so much nicer? According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equine_fatalities_in_the_Grand_National, some of them die. How about mounting butterflies with a pin?
It doesn't make people any the worse for enjoying a bullfight, indeed it might make them better. Go and see one.
Putting pitch on bulls' horns and setting them on fire (as is done in the Carrebou in Catalonia), is horrible I agree, but is horse racing so much nicer? According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equine_fatalities_in_the_Grand_National, some of them die. How about mounting butterflies with a pin?
It doesn't make people any the worse for enjoying a bullfight, indeed it might make them better. Go and see one.
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Re: Burning bulls
A horse bread for racing actually wants to run. Fact!
I´m not sure a bull wants to be slowly stabbed to death, or have their heads set on fire!
As for watching such an event making one a better person, I beg to differ.
In fact I´d go as far as to say it would put one in the dwindling minority group of sadistic sick minded freaks that I consider such people to be!
I´m not sure a bull wants to be slowly stabbed to death, or have their heads set on fire!
As for watching such an event making one a better person, I beg to differ.
In fact I´d go as far as to say it would put one in the dwindling minority group of sadistic sick minded freaks that I consider such people to be!