Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
#1
Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
Hi everyone,
quick question. I'll be flying in to Melbourne (can't wait) mid september. Browsing through flats/apartments/house for rent, single room with house share.
I have been using several "popular" websites for this purpose.
Recently having registered on one of the website I have started receiving emails from various flat owners looking to rent out their property. Emails are very detailed accompanied by brilliant pictures of the residence. Issue is it all seems too good to be true!!! I have also read about a fraud targeting immigrants in my situation. Few similarities I have noticed in almost all.
1- Asked rental prices are between AUD 500 - AUD 600 per month. fully furnished and including bills.
2- All are prepared to draw up a contract lease document that presumably requires me to eventually transfer some kind of deposit (bond) payment to reserve the place.
3- One or two have offered that their lawyers will handle this. (I have asked for lawyer's firm details, references etc. no reply yet)
4- ALL of the flat owners (6-7) that have contacted me are females. humm...
5- Couple of them are abroad for varying work or personal reasons. They have to told me that they have deposited spares keys with FedEx.
What do you guys think? Is this a clear scam and I am just being naive? or are these common procedures followed in which case I would look like a
mug!
Cheers!!
P.S Mods I tried searching for topics similar to this and found nothing so please don't chuck this in the wastebin
quick question. I'll be flying in to Melbourne (can't wait) mid september. Browsing through flats/apartments/house for rent, single room with house share.
I have been using several "popular" websites for this purpose.
Recently having registered on one of the website I have started receiving emails from various flat owners looking to rent out their property. Emails are very detailed accompanied by brilliant pictures of the residence. Issue is it all seems too good to be true!!! I have also read about a fraud targeting immigrants in my situation. Few similarities I have noticed in almost all.
1- Asked rental prices are between AUD 500 - AUD 600 per month. fully furnished and including bills.
2- All are prepared to draw up a contract lease document that presumably requires me to eventually transfer some kind of deposit (bond) payment to reserve the place.
3- One or two have offered that their lawyers will handle this. (I have asked for lawyer's firm details, references etc. no reply yet)
4- ALL of the flat owners (6-7) that have contacted me are females. humm...
5- Couple of them are abroad for varying work or personal reasons. They have to told me that they have deposited spares keys with FedEx.
What do you guys think? Is this a clear scam and I am just being naive? or are these common procedures followed in which case I would look like a
mug!
Cheers!!
P.S Mods I tried searching for topics similar to this and found nothing so please don't chuck this in the wastebin
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
The fact that they are not coming back to you with lawyer details, and that the keys will be with fed ex strikes me as dodgy - it may not be.
Everything i have read on here and other forums is saying stay in youth hostel/hotel/service apartments for the first few weeks then you can look at a rental place and see for yourself if it is legi and if the pictures are doctored at all. Also you dont then transfer money into the unknown, as you will know what is happening with your deposit.
Everything i have read on here and other forums is saying stay in youth hostel/hotel/service apartments for the first few weeks then you can look at a rental place and see for yourself if it is legi and if the pictures are doctored at all. Also you dont then transfer money into the unknown, as you will know what is happening with your deposit.
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
The fact that they are not coming back to you with lawyer details, and that the keys will be with fed ex strikes me as dodgy - it may not be.
Everything i have read on here and other forums is saying stay in youth hostel/hotel/service apartments for the first few weeks then you can look at a rental place and see for yourself if it is legi and if the pictures are doctored at all. Also you dont then transfer money into the unknown, as you will know what is happening with your deposit.
Everything i have read on here and other forums is saying stay in youth hostel/hotel/service apartments for the first few weeks then you can look at a rental place and see for yourself if it is legi and if the pictures are doctored at all. Also you dont then transfer money into the unknown, as you will know what is happening with your deposit.
they all are good story tellers I give them that!
Thanks for the response though
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
Think you should definitely go with your gut on this and ignore these "lettings".
Which visa are you coming out on?
Good pic btw
Which visa are you coming out on?
Good pic btw
#5
Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
PR Independent visa. Applied way back in July 2009. Almost forgot about it until my agent came up with a list of additional documents this past April. Have been excited ever since!
thanks! LFC through and through
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
Saw somewhere that the hostels have noticeboards with info on them about houseshares etc that you can look at. believe that they also have info about potential jobs etc.
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
I see your location says Preston so reckon still in UK. What visa are you trying to get?
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
the price is way out unless it is a room in a shared house.
Fully furnished rental properties are as rare as hens teeth.
We have a house in Melbourne which is let while we are back in UK a while. A decent agent has the keys, is responsible for everything related to letting, maintenance etc.
They advertise and when they have a potential renter/renters list, they advise us and tell us what rent it has been let for.
So tenants can see the place, meet the agent and deposit the bond through the mandatory bond lodgement scheme (in Vic)- placed with a third party.
And the rental market is less fraught so don't get panicked into agreeing something because you might be left behind. At a push you can stay in a caravan park for a while. Nice one in Williamstown, but can't remember its name (is on Kororoit Creek Road), which would give you some breathing space.
Fully furnished rental properties are as rare as hens teeth.
We have a house in Melbourne which is let while we are back in UK a while. A decent agent has the keys, is responsible for everything related to letting, maintenance etc.
They advertise and when they have a potential renter/renters list, they advise us and tell us what rent it has been let for.
So tenants can see the place, meet the agent and deposit the bond through the mandatory bond lodgement scheme (in Vic)- placed with a third party.
And the rental market is less fraught so don't get panicked into agreeing something because you might be left behind. At a push you can stay in a caravan park for a while. Nice one in Williamstown, but can't remember its name (is on Kororoit Creek Road), which would give you some breathing space.
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
the price is way out unless it is a room in a shared house.
Fully furnished rental properties are as rare as hens teeth.
We have a house in Melbourne which is let while we are back in UK a while. A decent agent has the keys, is responsible for everything related to letting, maintenance etc.
They advertise and when they have a potential renter/renters list, they advise us and tell us what rent it has been let for.
So tenants can see the place, meet the agent and deposit the bond through the mandatory bond lodgement scheme (in Vic)- placed with a third party.
And the rental market is less fraught so don't get panicked into agreeing something because you might be left behind. At a push you can stay in a caravan park for a while. Nice one in Williamstown, but can't remember its name (is on Kororoit Creek Road), which would give you some breathing space.
Fully furnished rental properties are as rare as hens teeth.
We have a house in Melbourne which is let while we are back in UK a while. A decent agent has the keys, is responsible for everything related to letting, maintenance etc.
They advertise and when they have a potential renter/renters list, they advise us and tell us what rent it has been let for.
So tenants can see the place, meet the agent and deposit the bond through the mandatory bond lodgement scheme (in Vic)- placed with a third party.
And the rental market is less fraught so don't get panicked into agreeing something because you might be left behind. At a push you can stay in a caravan park for a while. Nice one in Williamstown, but can't remember its name (is on Kororoit Creek Road), which would give you some breathing space.
It's the whole idea of people emailing me with brilliant offers and trying to rush me to sign lease documents etc that just doesn't seem right. Plus I read about similar frauds that's making me more cautious.
I'll be moving in on my own so I only have couple of luggage bags. Good hostels with storage and other basic facilities would suit me. I like the idea of caravan parks but worried about luggage then? Definitely pencil it in for later though for recreation
Do you rent out the whole property or rooms seperately? if it's rooms then I'll be happy to take a look if it becomes available and I am still homeless!
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
Yeah I would be avoiding this big time.
What area are these properties?
What area are these properties?
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
We are heading out next month on a 457 visa - husband is transfering to the sydney office, permanent job thou temp visa. We are looking at applying for pr (husband is in IT) if we like it when we arrive/cope with the distance from family - dont think that will be too much of an issue mind.
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
We are heading out next month on a 457 visa - husband is transfering to the sydney office, permanent job thou temp visa. We are looking at applying for pr (husband is in IT) if we like it when we arrive/cope with the distance from family - dont think that will be too much of an issue mind.
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
google gumtree rental scam and you'll find lots of information on what you are receiving
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Re: Trying to rent a property in Melbourne whilst still abroad
My friend in London had to go to Canne, France for a big conference, one of those where every bed in town is taken. His secretary found a lovely flat online (great pictures), booked and payed for it, they even arranged for their car to pick him up at the airport (at extra cost). No car was waiting at the airport, so he caught a taxi to the flat, just to find that it did not exist! He had to sleep on a colleagues hotel room floor.