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Old Jan 30th 2007 | 12:43 am
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Wondering if anyone knows how the fact that my son has autism(high functioning) will affect his medical, will he still pass#

He is fit and healthy and his problems are mainly social., he attends mainstream school and has a statement of special needs and help 10hrs a week in school , but other than that we dont do much diffrent with him than the other kids, other than manage him diffrently.

He doesnt attend anything or have to have any kind of treatment that they will consider a drain on there resources?

Anyone had any experience with this?
 
Old Jan 30th 2007 | 1:29 am
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Our son had dyslexia when we applied in 1998, (still does) we didn't think it a problem, but Canada did.

We had to show that we would be in a position to educate him, luckily the subject had come up during one of my investigative visits to Canada and we had discovered a school here in Winnipeg that specialised in teaching intelligent children who had learning differences. We had a letter of acceptance from the school, and a letter from the Province saying that school was acceptable to them, those we submitted with our application. With those we had no problem.

Things may have changed since 98, but I would suggest that you investigate schools in the area you wish to live that specialise in your child's needs, Talk to the Provincial immigration people, generally the more you can show Canada that you are prepared, the better your chances.

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Old Jan 30th 2007 | 1:34 am
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JUST OUT OF INTREST, from just one meeting with my son, you would not even notice that he has austistic tendenicies, (like i said hes high functioning), so unless he had a melt down on the day, would i get away with not mentioning it?

i know this is a bit bad, but it seems to be opening up a whole can of worms to tell them, like i said we feel its not a problem, but they may not see it that way, do you think the fact i work with kids would work as i could say if it was a problem i could teach him?
 
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Would it come out though during the Medical? If not you could most probably get away with it, but its not a course I would recommend. These things can come back and bite you in the rear when you are least expecting it.
 
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Perhaps a "friend" could have a chat with the relevant authorities prior to you making an application, then you can make an educated decision on whether to come clean or just pretend it isn't there.
 
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I have some experience with autism and the reaction of the authorities to it. I think you should avoid mention of it at all costs.
 
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If you don't mention it, and it's found out that your application was deliberately fraudulent, your PR can be revoked and you'll be sent back to Blighty

On the medical form you fill in it says (their capitals, not mine):

AUTISM, MENTAL RETARDATION, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAY or other physical or mental DISABILITIES/IMPAIRMENTS affecting your current or future ability to function independently? Yes/No


<snip>

and later in the DMP Handbook

Question 16: AUTISM, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAY, etc.
If there is a history of autism, mental retardation or developmental delay, and if the applicant is NOT excessive demand exempt, provide a specialist’s report, from a pediatrician and/or clinical psychologist as appropriate, to describe:

❙ developmental history,
❙ psychometric testing including IQ testing and assessment of adaptive skills, associated behaviour disorders,
❙ specific diagnosis,
❙ school, vocational training, and /or work records,
❙ current and future treatment requirements / recommendations for speech
therapy, occupational therapy, physical therapy, special education, or vocational training,
❙ current and future need for ongoing supervision or institutional care.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/dmp-handbook.pdf


I have no idea what your chances are, but I wouldn't lie about it as once you reach Canada, you're not necessarily home and dry.

Edit: Can you find out what 10hrs assistance per week would cost in Canada? That assistance will count towards the 5~k CAD in medical treatment a year figure, and I guess that might tip your son over the allowable limit?

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Im not sure if they would come across it during the medical or just think he was a bratty kid?
i think if we prepared him well enough we might get away with it, but i dont then want them to find out!

its hard to decide!

anyone gone through a medical with an autistic child?

what sort of things do they do at the medical?

thanks for replys xx
 
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If you don't mention it, and it's found out that your application was deliberately fraudulent, your PR can be revoked and you'll be sent back to Blighty
Whether or not it's worth the risk depends on what you think the chances are of an application containing the word "autism" being accepted.
 
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Originally Posted by Biiiiink
If you don't mention it, and it's found out that your application was deliberately fraudulent, your PR can be revoked and you'll be sent back to Blighty

On the medical form you fill in it says (their capitals, not mine):

AUTISM, MENTAL RETARDATION, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAY or other physical or mental DISABILITIES/IMPAIRMENTS affecting your current or future ability to function independently? Yes/No


<snip>

and later in the DMP Handbook

Question 16: AUTISM, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAY, etc.
If there is a history of autism, mental retardation or developmental delay, and if the applicant is NOT excessive demand exempt, provide a specialist’s report, from a pediatrician and/or clinical psychologist as appropriate, to describe:

❙ developmental history,
❙ psychometric testing including IQ testing and assessment of adaptive skills, associated behaviour disorders,
❙ specific diagnosis,
❙ school, vocational training, and /or work records,
❙ current and future treatment requirements / recommendations for speech
therapy, occupational therapy, physical therapy, special education, or vocational training,
❙ current and future need for ongoing supervision or institutional care.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/dmp-handbook.pdf


I have no idea what your chances are, but I wouldn't lie about it as once you reach Canada, you're not necessarily home and dry.
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How does Autism\Aspergers affect an application for Citizenship for the child of a canadian citizen living in the UK?? Anyone know?
 
Old Jan 30th 2007 | 3:18 am
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Hmm could be hard to agure it then if they ask outright


surely the fact hes in mainstream and does not need speech therapy or any other outside agency will be in our favour, in fact he is above average intelligence and had a photographic memory.

Dont know what to do now...........

Originally Posted by Biiiiink
If you don't mention it, and it's found out that your application was deliberately fraudulent, your PR can be revoked and you'll be sent back to Blighty

On the medical form you fill in it says (their capitals, not mine):

AUTISM, MENTAL RETARDATION, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAY or other physical or mental DISABILITIES/IMPAIRMENTS affecting your current or future ability to function independently? Yes/No


<snip>

and later in the DMP Handbook

Question 16: AUTISM, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAY, etc.
If there is a history of autism, mental retardation or developmental delay, and if the applicant is NOT excessive demand exempt, provide a specialist’s report, from a pediatrician and/or clinical psychologist as appropriate, to describe:

❙ developmental history,
❙ psychometric testing including IQ testing and assessment of adaptive skills, associated behaviour disorders,
❙ specific diagnosis,
❙ school, vocational training, and /or work records,
❙ current and future treatment requirements / recommendations for speech
therapy, occupational therapy, physical therapy, special education, or vocational training,
❙ current and future need for ongoing supervision or institutional care.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/pub/dmp-handbook.pdf

I have no idea what your chances are, but I wouldn't lie about it as once you reach Canada, you're not necessarily home and dry.

Edit: Can you find out what 10hrs assistance per week would cost in Canada? That assistance will count towards the 5~k CAD in medical treatment a year figure, and I guess that might tip your son over it?
 
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How does Autism\Aspergers affect an application for Citizenship for the child of a canadian citizen living in the UK?? Anyone know?
It doesn't, children of citizens are citizens regardless.

Spouses and children are excessive demand exempt too if they need sponsoring afaik.
 
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It doesn't, children of citizens are citizens regardless.

Spouses and children are excessive demand exempt too if they need sponsoring afaik.
Thanks Biiiiink.

Thats good to know. (I may be able to convince my mates wife to get Citizenship\passports for her two now )
 
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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
Thanks Biiiiink.

Thats good to know. (I may be able to convince my mates wife to get Citizenship\passports for her two now )
They'll already be citizens anyway, won't they? Just applying for official proof of status (the crappy homemade-looking card).
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Whether or not it's worth the risk depends on what you think the chances are of an application containing the word "autism" being accepted.
I don't know. There are lots of enquiries about it on the forum but I haven't ever seen a "got it" post from any of the posters. Have you?
 


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