lynnlovessun

Hello guys
Its been a bit quiet on the old nursing forum the past few weeks, so thought I would keep everyone posted.

Have now been waiting for over a month for my professional reference from lead nurse in community. I have e-mailed her and then phoned exactly 1 week today to enquire when my reference is coming.... she said oh yes i'm sorry its under a pile of paperwork!!! I took it from that it would be getting posted that day as she knew i needed it for this week because of solicitors appointment but 1 week on and yup you have guessed it no reference!

I am off on holiday this week only to allow me to actually send my QNC registration application, get documents certified (have appointment at solicitors on Friday to get the lot done for me and hubbie - for QNC/ ANMC and DIMIA). I phoned to speak to her today to actually come and get it off her and she is off sick - with no return date YET!!!!.

So depressed about the whole thing. I will go to the solicitors on Friday and get everyhting else certified in preparation but just feel that this week off has been a waste of time. The only thing I can think of is phoning her if she is back on Monday and asking her to give me a few copies of the reference signed - might save me having to go back to solicitors to get it certified. If she has hand written it though it looks like I will have to get time off to go back to solicitors.

Does anyone know if the ANMC/ DIMIA will accept a photocopy non-certified of this reference?

I need cheered up this whole process is so frustrating!

Lynn x

Grayling

Lynn

I registered in NSW and Queensland a couple of years ago. I did both over the counter in Sydney and Brisbane (only takes about 20 minutes), I did not go through the ANMC as I did not need to.
They used the original copies.
It is probably different if you have to send things by post as you will obviously need a copy.

Try emailing them and see what they say before you do anything or you may just create further delay.

Good luck

G

lynnlovessun

Thanks Grayling - will e-mail them to see if I need certified docs. The only reason I am doing QNC registration is to save money and allow me to do a modified ANMC assessment. I think I def need skills assessment for the skilled independent visa - or don't I!?

Lynn

nikkers

Hiya Lynn

You do need the skills assessment.I wrote my own references and typed them on headed paper and got my boss to sign several copies.

The QNC just wanted a basic reference saying you were competent and healthy.

The ANC wanted the exact start date ie the actual day month and year and as I recently reduced my hours to 34 from 371/2(this gives me Friday sat and sunday off) I made sure it stated the hours I worked and date I changed.I think they also wanted 5 main aspects of your job.

This saved me loads of time as all they had to do was sign.My manager was really grateful!

I appreciate not everyone can do this but it does make life easier.

Nikki x

Grayling

Lynn

You do need a skills assessment from the ANMC but you can do the modified assessment once you have your QLD registration.

You may not need to supply as many documents to the ANMC as QLD will do their own skills assessment before they will register. I do not know what you will need to send to the ANMC.

Check here for details:

www.anmc.org.au

Go to the international section and it should tell you.
If you do not need to send your references then you may be able to send the original to QLD and that would solve the problem.
Check first though as I don't know.

Good luck

G

lynnlovessun

Don't need refs again for ANMC but need to send everything I sent originally I think to DIMIA. DIMIA want proof that you have been employed for 5 years I think so would need refs from all jobs.

Lynn

lynnlovessun

Hi Nikki!

How are you? You have been quiet recently! Are your plans going well?

I wish that was what I had done - write my own refs. Will do that for my employment statements for DIMIA. What did you include to DIMIA?

Because I am registering 1st and doing modified assessment, QNC wants:

"A statement of competance from a nurse supervisor on official letterhead, clearly showing the dates of employment and stating that the applicant demonstrated nursing competance"

How do I provide "certified evidence of competent practice within the last 5 years" ? (I have asked NMC to send verification of registration to QNC/ANMC which is done.

Just checked modified ANMC - don't need any references for that!!!Phew

Must be DIMIA I am thinking of........ Yes it is- heres what DIMIA say:

"The letter should indicate the exact period of employment, positions held, the 5 main duties undertaken and the salary earned..."

Do you know if I have to get these for all the jobs I have worked in for 4 years? It mentions that if you want the 10 points for specific work experience "you have to have worked in the nominated occupation for at least 3 of the 4 years immediately before you apply"
Does that mean I get employment statements going back 3 years? (I have only worked for 3 years as a registered nurse)

Any advice nikki would be so appreciated. I think the jargon is just getting to me a bit now! Have read so much stuff I am getting confused! I have all the forms printed and here in front of me!

Lynn

Grayling

Lynn

Thanks for that Info.

I had not thought of that As we have Parent visas and did not have to produce anything work related.
Nikki's suggestion looks interesting if you can arrange it.
Just do several copies and ask your referee to sign them.

Just explain that you need a few copies. Will save a lot of hassle.

Best wishes

G

nikkers

Lynn

I meant the DIMIA references need actual start dates and 5 main duties of your job etc not ANMC! I can't seem to edit my post!

I actually wrote mine with the exact wording that the QNC and DIMIA stated they needed in the guide notes!

I now have to get everyone to write a reference for me to take to OZ! They can do this themselves!!!!

Nikki x

nikkers

Hiya Lynn

Me again.This is what my reference said

Dear Sir/madam

This letter is to confirm that the above named has undertaken practice in this NHS Trust as an Oncology Nurse from 5th January 1998 to date.

I also confirm that

1 She is competent to practise as a nurse
2 Her state of health is such she can perform nursing duties
without endangering any patient
3 She holds a current licence to practice as a nurse

Should you require any further information please let me know

Yours faithfully

Name
Title

Contact Details


I figured it was easier this way as this wording was what QNC asked should be included in the reference.Its not how I would expect a reference and I thought my boss would not normally include these things.


As for the points for DIMIA I have worked long enough at this trust to get one reference to prove the experience.

If you need those 10 points you will need references to cover the three yrs.


Feel free to pm me if you need more info.

I've been a bit busy its 5 weeks 6 days till we go.We still haven't sold our house so have arranged someone to stay here and are sorting Power of attorney so we don't have to come back and are busy sorting our stuff etc out.
I've bought my xmas pressies and wrapped them and have had to send stuff to my daughters school ie reports etc as she starts Jan 27 th yr 11 and I've had to arrange an appointment to go to the uniform shop.I've had to fax an order for her books etc the school sent a long list!!! Its a nightmare trying to sort..... I'm still working too!

Its really tiring... Still nearly there!

Nikki x

lynnlovessun

Nikki x[/QUOTE]

Nikki Thanks for all that I feel much happier now. Still one question about QNC!

Is it only one reference about competance I need? I have only been in community since March 2004.

Also a part of the application for QNC asks for:

"certified evidence of competent practice within the last 5 years" ? (I have asked NMC to send verification of registration to QNC/ANMC which is done.

Reading it again it says WITHIN 5 years so I wonder if one ref like you wrote would be sufficient?

Thanks Lynn

nikkers

Nikki Thanks for all that I feel much happier now. Still one question about QNC!

Is it only one reference about competance I need? I have only been in community since March 2004.

Also a part of the application for QNC asks for:

"certified evidence of competent practice within the last 5 years" ? (I have asked NMC to send verification of registration to QNC/ANMC which is done.

Reading it again it says WITHIN 5 years so I wonder if one ref like you wrote would be sufficient?


Hiya Lynn


I would do one reference as its your current one.Queensland have been great with me as I've had to renew my registration (I think they renew everyone in June or July) I renewed online.


I really think they are easy and helpful.

Go for it!

Nikki x

lynnlovessun

Dear Lynn

I refer to your email about documentary requirements for your application for registration with the Queensland Nursing Council.

Please refer to page 4 of the Application Package QNC1 – it lists what documents you must provide. Certified evidence of competent practice within the last five years is required. A reference from your lead nurse relating to your employment from March 2004 is sufficient – you do not need to obtain statements from all your employers over a five-year period.

Please contact me if you are unsure about any of the other documentary requirements.

Jennifer Hamilton/Flo Turnbull
Registration Officers

Queensland Nursing Council
GPO Box 2928
Brisbane Q 4001
Australia


Posted this to clarify QNC application once and for all! Only 1 ref needed in format that Nikki posted above for application. No refs needed for modified ANMC.

Will need refs for all jobs (5 years) when it comes to DIMIA skilled independent application.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Lynn x

ad4ozz

I have condensed the Queensland Nursing Council wish list re: competence into my DIMIA reference to save my boss doing more and more References as sure she is well sick of whole thing by now.

Took:

6. Nursing & Midwifery
Competence
In the interests of public safety, nurses and midwives must be
competent in their practice. Practice is defined as including
clinical care, education, research and administration.
Competence requirements are that:
• within the five years preceding the application, the
applicant has undertaken practice in the relevant area of
nursing or midwifery (no minimum period) OR undertaken
a period of employment which maintained nursing or
midwifery skills and knowledge OR undertaken an
accredited nursing or midwifery course; AND
• the applicant is competent to practise as a nurse or
midwife; AND
• the applicant’s state of health is such that they can perform
nursing or midwifery duties without endangering any
patient; AND
• the applicant held a current licence to practise as a nurse
or midwife in the jurisdiction in which the practice or
employment took place, AND
• the applicant is a suitable person to practise nursing or
midwifery.

and condensed it to:

Ann is competent to practice as a nurse and her state of health is such that she can perform nursing duties without endangering any Patient. Ann holds a current licence/Statement of Entry to practice as a Registered Nurse/ Specialist Practitioner District Nursing/Nurse Prescriber and is a suitable person to practice nursing.
Ann is a native English speaker and in her present employment as a District Nurse/Registered Nurse the medium of communication is English.

Like others I am at the point of doing the References and then sending to Boss to see if she agrees.

lynnlovessun

This sounds great! Along with yours and Nikki's version I am typing a letter tonight to print on headed work paper tommorrow to be signed - then all of QNC application will be sent next week - as soon as I get QNC application back modified ANMC is all filled out and ready to go with certified documents.

How are your plans going Ann? By the way thanks for the community nursing info, i'm still no further on with that though. I haven't had any positive feedback thatI will actually get a community staff nurse job. Will your DN qualification make a difference?

Lynn