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Old Aug 26th 2005 | 5:52 am
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If only the UK did it like OZ !!!

Recently in our local free mag the Jimboomba Times....

Logan or Beaudesert council had a FULL PAGE AD naming and shaming ratepayers with arrears...

It went onto showing names, numbers, addresses and amounts... then

At bottom it said DONT PAY we will auction your property off !! with no further notice.

One guy had 30,000 acres and owed $1800 lmao


BRILLIANT !!!
 
Old Aug 26th 2005 | 6:01 am
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If only the UK did it like OZ !!!

Recently in our local free mag the Jimboomba Times....

Logan or Beaudesert council had a FULL PAGE AD naming and shaming ratepayers with arrears...

It went onto showing names, numbers, addresses and amounts... then

At bottom it said DONT PAY we will auction your property off !! with no further notice.

One guy had 30,000 acres and owed $1800 lmao


BRILLIANT !!!

Love the name of the paper!

If only we could do it like that!

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Old Aug 26th 2005 | 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
If only the UK did it like OZ !!!

Recently in our local free mag the Jimboomba Times....

Logan or Beaudesert council had a FULL PAGE AD naming and shaming ratepayers with arrears...

It went onto showing names, numbers, addresses and amounts... then

At bottom it said DONT PAY we will auction your property off !! with no further notice.

One guy had 30,000 acres and owed $1800 lmao


BRILLIANT !!!
What a great thing to do, It's those sort of things that impress me with Aus
 
Old Aug 26th 2005 | 7:13 am
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I've said for ages the shame policy is a easy way to get non-payers to tow the line, but then again some will take it as there 15 minutes of fame. Another great one is to have shoplifters pictures on shop windows saying that they are banned for being a thief.
 
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I've said for ages the shame policy is a easy way to get non-payers to tow the line, but then again some will take it as there 15 minutes of fame. Another great one is to have shoplifters pictures on shop windows saying that they are banned for being a thief.
Sums up Oz perfectly. Cut the crap, no PC, say it as it is...if only Tony Blair took the same stance Great Britain might be more 'OK Britain' thab Crap Britain
 
Old Aug 26th 2005 | 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
If only the UK did it like OZ !!!

Recently in our local free mag the Jimboomba Times....

Logan or Beaudesert council had a FULL PAGE AD naming and shaming ratepayers with arrears...

It went onto showing names, numbers, addresses and amounts... then

At bottom it said DONT PAY we will auction your property off !! with no further notice.

One guy had 30,000 acres and owed $1800 lmao


BRILLIANT !!!
I want to be a writer for the 'Jimboomba Times'
 
Old Aug 27th 2005 | 8:34 pm
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Sums up Oz perfectly. Cut the crap, no PC, say it as it is...if only Tony Blair took the same stance Great Britain might be more 'OK Britain' thab Crap Britain
Agreed. It's refreshing to see the good guys win for a change, unlike UK where the PC brigade take command

Only prob is though, in cases of genuine hardship. Hopefully this is taken into consideration and they aren't "shamed" for something they couldn't help
 
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Agreed. It's refreshing to see the good guys win for a change, unlike UK where the PC brigade take command

Only prob is though, in cases of genuine hardship. Hopefully this is taken into consideration and they aren't "shamed" for something they couldn't help

Thats my real big concern about it too. Remember The Sun publishing paedofiles pics ?

Its fine to say name and shame and if people are guilty through greed or just dont care then fine, but what about those in a bad situation through no fault of their own? How many of those ratepayers in arrears are merely some poor woman dumped on her own with kids? Or lost their job through illness or some other reason not hteir fault. You need to be careful doing things like this.
 
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I agree, it needs to be done with care - for example, my MIL is at present in hosptal, supposed to be resting and getting better, but is instead fretting herself stupid over how she is going to pay her rates bill - and if we pay it, over how she is going to pay us back while shes laid up.
If she thought she was likely to make the papers for non-payment the worry could finish her off.
 
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EXACTLY.

Hopefully people in these situations have been taken into consideration

Maybe Timber can enlighten us?
 
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ALL YOU GUYS IN OZ HAVE SEEN THIS !!!

FILL WANTED !!! yer????

Well....

LOL

Was driving thru Mt Cotton last week, and some guy, presumably a IRATE builder had erected a SIGN outside some geezers driveway GATES saying.

" FILL WANTED, just dump the SHIT here, cos the bastards dont PAY !!"

I was lmffao but didnt have my camera
 
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Originally Posted by Phoenixuk2oz
EXACTLY.

Hopefully people in these situations have been taken into consideration

Maybe Timber can enlighten us?
sURE WILL, THE RATEPAYERS WERE IN DEFECIT FOR OVER 3 YEARS

I would "Ass u me" they checked to see if the debtors were still alive !
 
Old Aug 27th 2005 | 10:07 pm
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sURE WILL, THE RATEPAYERS WERE IN DEFECIT FOR OVER 3 YEARS

I would "Ass u me" they checked to see if the debtors were still alive !
Cheers Timber

so these people were in deficit over 3 years.......but presume the genuine hardship cases were taken ooot

In that case....as you were

BTW....dont be shittin on anyones drive cos they haven't paid you

I imagine it would take one helluva plaggy bag after one of urs T
 
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BTW....dont be shittin on anyones drive cos they haven't paid you
I imagine it would take one helluva plaggy bag after one of urs T
Indeed.....I think his customers had better be wary if he pulls up outside and hollers "TIMBER"
 
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Indeed.....I think his customers had better be wary if he pulls up outside and hollers "TIMBER"
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PMSL.....
Wipe your feet on the way in please
 
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Wipe your feet on the way in please
In some cases, I've had to wipe my feet on the way out
 
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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
If only the UK did it like OZ !!!

Recently in our local free mag the Jimboomba Times....

Logan or Beaudesert council had a FULL PAGE AD naming and shaming ratepayers with arrears...

It went onto showing names, numbers, addresses and amounts... then

At bottom it said DONT PAY we will auction your property off !! with no further notice.

One guy had 30,000 acres and owed $1800 lmao


BRILLIANT !!!
Oh, these are the moments when I really love the Aussies. They are such a funny bunch at times.

Where I work we have all these PC rules but the guys are shockingly un-PC. I've come to realise that it's not because they are rude or insensitive, but rather that they honestly aren't aware of differences. Not where I work anyway, it's like the UN in there
 
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Oh, these are the moments when I really love the Aussies. They are such a funny bunch at times.

Where I work we have all these PC rules but the guys are shockingly un-PC. I've come to realise that it's not because they are rude or insensitive, but rather that they honestly aren't aware of differences. Not where I work anyway, it's like the UN in there
Yeh...I noticed this too.

There are some things they do where I work that would get you hung/strung and quartered in UK :scared:

I don't think they mean to be rude or abrasive however I do think they are insensitive. Subtlety is not in their vocabulary.

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Yeh...I noticed this too.

There are some things they do where I work that would get you hung/strung and quartered in UK :scared:

I don't think they mean to be rude or abrasive however I do think they are insensitive. Subtlety is not in their vocabulary.

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It's the lobotomy that does it for you. The day after I got citizenship I said something really stupid & my boss commented; "I knew that lobotomy would have an affect on you."

I suppose it can be very insensitive, especially if it's your toes they are treading on, but I've learnt to let it go and not really take it seriously. I honestly don't think they even think about it most of the time, but if I think they mean it they'd get it from me. I prefer that people's reactions modify other's actions rather than a set of stupid PC rules which are most of the time stupid & unrealistic anyway. The only time I get really narky is if they get cruel and unusual. We've got a slightly "slow" guy who works with us & one guy is always making a fool out of him. So I stepped up to him one day & said quietly in his ear; "You're not really a very nice person, are you?" He's been behaving ever since. People tell me I can be seriously scary at times and I like to use it when called upon
 
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I look forward to the day you whisper in my ear
 
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Agreed. It's refreshing to see the good guys win for a change, unlike UK where the PC brigade take command

Only prob is though, in cases of genuine hardship. Hopefully this is taken into consideration and they aren't "shamed" for something they couldn't help

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And there is no PC brigade over here ?

And there is no instances of crazy rules and regs?

Theres as much crap over here as there is n the UK a big difference is the size of the population against the ranks of bureaucrats.

I love living in Australia but there are as many stupid and idiotic things here as in the UK. The secret is not to let what doesn't effect you, bother you.
 
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And there is no PC brigade over here ?

And there is no instances of crazy rules and regs?

Theres as much crap over here as there is n the UK a big difference is the size of the population against the ranks of bureaucrats.

I love living in Australia but there are as many stupid and idiotic things here as in the UK. The secret is not to let what doesn't effect you, bother you.
This thread is purely about the naming and shaming of people who haven't paid their rates [and have no excuse]. PC groups exist everywhere.

Get out of the wrong side today HUP

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This thread is purely about the naming and shaming of people who haven't paid their rates [and have no excuse]. PC groups exist everywhere.

Get out of the wrong side today HUP
Not at all. It just makes me smile when people say Isn't Australia great because some small council has done something slightly different. Oh those rough and ready people arnt they refreshing in there approach to things. No they are not!! They have as much crap as the UK

As to PC it was you who bought it in

Agreed. It's refreshing to see the good guys win for a change, unlike UK where the PC brigade take command
 
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Yeh...I noticed this too.

There are some things they do where I work that would get you hung/strung and quartered in UK :scared:

I don't think they mean to be rude or abrasive however I do think they are insensitive. Subtlety is not in their vocabulary.

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I took to this 70's work practice of non PC banter between the sexes with Glee when I found myself working in a slight minority amongst a whole heap of sassy women on night shift at Aussie post.

Warning to the guys, and the women that enjoy this kind of Banter. Once the lesbians get in they start complaining. Luckily most of our Night Shift ladies seem to be able to get them to calm down.


Takes a right tounge lashing though.
 
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Not at all. It just makes me smile when people say Isn't Australia great because some small council has done something slightly different. Oh those rough and ready people arnt they refreshing in there approach to things. No they are not!! They have as much crap as the UK

As to PC it was you who bought it in
Yes, isn't Australia great because that small council has done something different than they would NEVER do in the UK

And yep, I brought the PC thing in because in this instance ....and in my opinion...it is true. This would NEVER happen in the UK and I'm proud the Aussies could be arsed cos, as I said, for once the good guys win.

That's not to say there are occasions here that PC correctness doesn't happen.

Where did I say that?

Nor is it to say silly rules don't exsist here.

Where did I say that?

And as for an argument with you HUP.

Can't be arsed.

I did say that
 
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I took to this 70's work practice of non PC banter between the sexes with Glee when I found myself working in a slight minority amongst a whole heap of sassy women on night shift at Aussie post.

Warning to the guys, and the women that enjoy this kind of Banter. Once the lesbians get in they start complaining. Luckily most of our Night Shift ladies seem to be able to get them to calm down.


Takes a right tounge lashing though.
I'm sorry Ozzie but I don't understand what you are saying.

Are you saying it's OK to talk / have banter like people did in the 70's era for e.g. like Alf Garnet...... and it's only lesbian women who object with this type of mentality?
 
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Yes, isn't Australia great because that small council has done something different than they would NEVER do in the UK

And yep, I brought the PC thing in because in this instance ....and in my opinion...it is true. This would NEVER happen in the UK and I'm proud the Aussies could be arsed cos, as I said, for once the good guys win.

That's not to say there are occasions here that PC correctness doesn't happen.

Where did I say that?

Nor is it to say silly rules don't exsist here.

Where did I say that?

And as for an argument with you HUP.

Can't be arsed.

I did say that
Whoa Neddy get of your high horse.

Didn't say anything to you directly. YOU choose to read that I am arguing with you. I am not because YOU are not worth it.I have seen this over reaction from you to many times before. Looks like Dr Jekylls posting today

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Whoa Neddy get of your high horse.

Didn't say anything to you directly. YOU choose to read that I am arguing with you. I am not because YOU are not worth it. I have seen this over reaction from you to mant times before
If answering back to an inflamatory post is over reacting .....then Im guilty as charged.

You have no idea who I am or what I am yet you continuously bait. This is not the first time you have tried to pick an argument HUP.

And .....as you say.... Im not worth it
 
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Whoa Neddy get of your high horse.

Didn't say anything to you directly. YOU choose to read that I am arguing with you. I am not because YOU are not worth it.I have seen this over reaction from you to many times before. Looks like Dr Jekylls posting today
Who the heck is Dr Jekylls?

Are you on something? Or are you baiting again HUP
 
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Who the heck is Dr Jekylls?

Are you on something? Or are you baiting again HUP
No baiting you seem to be the one doing that. What Im referring to is that your posting in your nasty vindictive, argumentitive manner as opposed to the Mr Hyde who might be able to have an adult discussion.
 
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Originally Posted by HUP
No baiting you seem to be the one doing that. What Im referring to is that your posting in your nasty vindictive, argumentitive manner as opposed to the Mr Hyde who might be able to have an adult discussion.
You really angry for some reason.

PM and tell me why rather than do this publicly.
 
Old Aug 28th 2005 | 7:09 pm
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[QUOTE=Phoenixuk2oz]This is not the first time you have tried to pick an argument HUP.
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Never picked an argument with ya. Seem to recall your judgemental Mrs Bucket posting phase . Then I seem to remember how apologetic you were. Well looks like the leopard can't change its spots.
 
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Originally Posted by Phoenixuk2oz
You really angry for some reason.

PM and tell me why rather than do this publicly.
No problems with me. Not angry with you. Get over yourself and move on.
 
Old Aug 28th 2005 | 7:28 pm
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[QUOTE=HUP][QUOTE=Phoenixuk2oz]This is not the first time you have tried to pick an argument HUP.

Never picked an argument with ya. Seem to recall your judgemental Mrs Bucket posting phase . Then I seem to remember how apologetic you were. Well looks like the leopard can't change its spots.
Oh dear. You want to raise that old chestnut again, when it literally happened months ago. A one off posting, that actually I am ashamed to say I was put up to by someone on this site who likes to be seen as a lovely poster. And I fell for it when I should have known better than to be prodded to say something that they didn't have the guts to. Amazing how many people are two faced like that isn't it HUP....ironically you shoot the messenger....and I accept I got what I asked for.

I apologised at the time and it has nothing at all to do with you.

And whilst you take your "holier than though" attitude....

You've never said anything and then had to say sorry then?

Well then.....that makes you a far better person than me.

You go to heaven, I go to hell.

Hows about you get over it and you just ignore my posts then

No worries
 
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PM and tell me why rather than do this publicly.
 
Old Aug 28th 2005 | 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
If only the UK did it like OZ !!!

Recently in our local free mag the Jimboomba Times....

Logan or Beaudesert council had a FULL PAGE AD naming and shaming ratepayers with arrears...

It went onto showing names, numbers, addresses and amounts... then

At bottom it said DONT PAY we will auction your property off !! with no further notice.

One guy had 30,000 acres and owed $1800 lmao


BRILLIANT !!!

Not as brilliant as what one village in India decided to do .



Drumming tax sense into evaders
By Omer Farooq
BBC News, Hyderabad

Tax evaders in a southern Indian city are having cash beaten out of them - by troupes of drummers.

Authorities in the city of Rajahmundry in Andhra Pradesh state are sending drummers around to create a noise outside homes until evaders cough up.

Officials say they recouped 200,000 rupees ($4,600) on the first day.

Harried residents emerged from their homes to be told by accompanying tax collectors to pay up or continue facing the music.

Embarrassment

Rajahmundry, about 500km (300 miles) east of state capital Hyderabad, is a major city in the state's East Godavari district.

Municipal commissioner of Rajahmundry city, TSR Anjaneyulu, told the BBC he had to resort to the unusual method as all other efforts to recover the tax had failed.

The commissioner said dues had risen to up to 50m rupees.

The municipal corporation hired the service of 10 drummers and sent them to 10 different residential and commercial areas on Friday morning, along with a tax collector and other officials.

Mr Anjaneyulu said that during the campaign the drummers would not say anything but would beat the drums non-stop outside houses pointed out by the officials.

He said he was confident people would pay up to avoid embarrassment as everybody now knew that the drums meant there was a tax evader inside.

In addition to the 200,000 rupee first-day revenue, many more people had come forward with a promise to pay up in a few days, Mr Anjaneyulu said.

Before the campaign, the authorities had compiled and published a list of evaders, with sums ranging from 1,000 rupees to 100,000.

Mr Anjaneyulu said the cash was needed to improve the city's growth, adding that in the past three years infrastructure had improved considerably.


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Originally Posted by Phoenixuk2oz
You've never said anything and then had to say sorry then?
Foolishly I apologised to you as I recall.
 


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