View Poll Results: What area of IT do you work in:
C++
3
4.76%
Java
3
4.76%
Web development/VB
7
11.11%
CRM/ERM
3
4.76%
Database Analysis (now go away)
3
4.76%
Support (General)
8
12.70%
Helldesk
0
0%
Hardware support
2
3.17%
Legacy (Cobol /Fortran etc)
2
3.17%
I'm an IT business analyst, i don't have time for this.
4
6.35%
I'm a manager, what does C++ mean?
8
12.70%
Other
20
31.75%
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May 27th 2004 | 10:15 pm
#46
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From: Where the stars look very diff-e-rent today... and tomorrow!
Originally posted by JackTheLad
Quite a gap between a software engineer and a systems architect,
Quite a gap between a software engineer and a systems architect,
May 27th 2004 | 10:18 pm
#47
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From: Birkdale QLD
Originally posted by MarkMyWords
A gap that I straddle quite happily!
A gap that I straddle quite happily!
May 27th 2004 | 11:44 pm
#48
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From: Where the stars look very diff-e-rent today... and tomorrow!
Originally posted by JackTheLad
Careful you don't strain anything
Careful you don't strain anything
May 28th 2004 | 1:21 am
#49
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From: Birkdale QLD
IT Salary Surveys
Don't know if these sites have been mentioned before:
http://www.salaryzone.com.au/salzone...search.jsp#top
- you can search by state and skill to find out what you might expect to earn. If most figures are honest entries, I would be quite relieved.
Some other interesting sites:
http://www.wages.com.au/html/surveys.html
- gives list of salary survey sites for many professions.
http://www.payscale.com/
- there is a free evaluation where you can find out how much you are worth (no sure how accurate it is!)
I put in my data (genuine) and was told I could be earning $100K! LOL!!! I know it's highly unlikely I'll get that in Brisbane, but my ego was boosted significantly. Now if only Mr JTL would figure what he could be earning, we just might take an early retirement...
Mrs JTL
http://www.salaryzone.com.au/salzone...search.jsp#top
- you can search by state and skill to find out what you might expect to earn. If most figures are honest entries, I would be quite relieved.
Some other interesting sites:
http://www.wages.com.au/html/surveys.html
- gives list of salary survey sites for many professions.
http://www.payscale.com/
- there is a free evaluation where you can find out how much you are worth (no sure how accurate it is!)
I put in my data (genuine) and was told I could be earning $100K! LOL!!! I know it's highly unlikely I'll get that in Brisbane, but my ego was boosted significantly. Now if only Mr JTL would figure what he could be earning, we just might take an early retirement...
Mrs JTL
May 28th 2004 | 1:54 am
#50
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From: Where the stars look very diff-e-rent today... and tomorrow!
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by JackTheLad
I put in my data (genuine) and was told I could be earning $100K! LOL!!!
Mrs JTL
I put in my data (genuine) and was told I could be earning $100K! LOL!!!
Mrs JTL
May 28th 2004 | 2:11 am
#51
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From: Birkdale QLD
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by MarkMyWords
Can't remember what you said your skills or experience were but that's by no means infeasible in say Melbourne or Sydney. Was that including super or plus super? Makes a big difference!
Can't remember what you said your skills or experience were but that's by no means infeasible in say Melbourne or Sydney. Was that including super or plus super? Makes a big difference!
Mrs JTL
Last edited by JackTheLad; May 28th 2004 at 2:30 am.
May 28th 2004 | 2:11 am
#52
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From: Where the stars look very diff-e-rent today... and tomorrow!
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by JackTheLad
http://www.salaryzone.com.au/salzone...search.jsp#top
- you can search by state and skill to find out what you might expect to earn.
http://www.salaryzone.com.au/salzone...search.jsp#top
- you can search by state and skill to find out what you might expect to earn.
http://www.payscale.com/
- there is a free evaluation where you can find out how much you are worth (no sure how accurate it is!)
- there is a free evaluation where you can find out how much you are worth (no sure how accurate it is!)
May 28th 2004 | 2:12 am
#53
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From: Where the stars look very diff-e-rent today... and tomorrow!
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by JackTheLad
Yes, I know it's feasible in Melbourne and Sydney but we've got our heart set on subtropical Brisbane.
Mrs JTL
Yes, I know it's feasible in Melbourne and Sydney but we've got our heart set on subtropical Brisbane.
Mrs JTL
May 28th 2004 | 2:28 am
#54
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From: Birkdale QLD
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by MarkMyWords
Except it doesn't seem to recognise C++. I mean I can't believe zero matches!
After several tedious pages it asked me how much I earned. I thought it was going to tell me, not ask me! I got bored at that point.
Except it doesn't seem to recognise C++. I mean I can't believe zero matches!
After several tedious pages it asked me how much I earned. I thought it was going to tell me, not ask me! I got bored at that point.
Try selecting the "Checking salaries for a future job (Job Seeker)" option. It shouldn't ask you what you earn.
I entered "Consultant" as titile and was given choices to choose "Consultant, IT", then was given list of skills where C++ was listed.
Mrs JTL
May 28th 2004 | 3:16 am
#55
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From: Perth
Originally posted by jeff hardy
I work in Apps Support, and we reckon DBA stands for "Don't Bother Asking"!
I work in Apps Support, and we reckon DBA stands for "Don't Bother Asking"!
Sorry..... did someone say something?
Well scuse me but in my role as a DBA today I
Ordered and installed security certificates for the web apps
Resolved several Peoplesoft issues
Replaced a motherboard
Finished a Disaster Recovery document (not recovering DBMS obviously)
Wrote some windows scripts
Ohh and explained to an app support guy that refreshing a 150Gb database would take a bit longer than 10 minutes so what did he think I was going to do about it at 17:20!
All good fun (yeah I mean it), much more variety than the UK roles I've had!
May 28th 2004 | 4:49 am
#56
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From: Nappyland
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by JackTheLad
Yes, I know it's feasible in Melbourne and Sydney but we've got our heart set on subtropical Brisbane. The free evaluation doesn't say if that includes super or not.
Mrs JTL
Yes, I know it's feasible in Melbourne and Sydney but we've got our heart set on subtropical Brisbane. The free evaluation doesn't say if that includes super or not.
Mrs JTL
As a rule, salary quotes will include super. The 9% compulsory super is paid by the employee (NOT the employer) and taken out of the monthly salary. Everybody, including contractors, must pay the 9% compulsory super.
May 28th 2004 | 5:05 am
#57
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From: Where the stars look very diff-e-rent today... and tomorrow!
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by HiddenPaw
As a rule, salary quotes will include super.
As a rule, salary quotes will include super.
May 28th 2004 | 6:36 am
#58
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Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by MarkMyWords
That was my assumption. Especially as JTL said $100k, which was plausible including super, but pushing it somewhat without, from my perusing of the job postings. Mind you I shouldn't make public assumptions about JTL's (or was it JTL's, if you follow me) experience or lack thereof!
That was my assumption. Especially as JTL said $100k, which was plausible including super, but pushing it somewhat without, from my perusing of the job postings. Mind you I shouldn't make public assumptions about JTL's (or was it JTL's, if you follow me) experience or lack thereof!
No, that was Mrs JTLs experience, apparently she's worth $100k+ a year. She also filled in the form for me, apparently C++/Java people (me) are only worth $42K.
Fine
I know who's going to work when we get there
Is there a HouseHusbands forum anywhere?
What are the laws on afternoon drinking/gambling in QLD? Any suggestions how to fill up those long long long sunny days when the wifes out working?JTL
(there may beee troubbllle aheeaaaddddd :scared: )
May 28th 2004 | 9:59 am
#59
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From: Where the stars look very diff-e-rent today... and tomorrow!
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by JackTheLad
... apparently C++/Java people (me) are only worth $42K.
... apparently C++/Java people (me) are only worth $42K.
Just goes to show, you can't trust surveys!
(This is where I come back in 6 months with a mouthful of humble pie asking to join JTL in his endless work-free sun+drink-sodden afternoons!)
May 28th 2004 | 10:14 am
#60
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From: Birkdale QLD
Re: IT Salary Surveys
Originally posted by MarkMyWords
That is, frankly, a load of bo***cks. Speaking as a highly experienced C++/Java person, I would ROFL a great deal at $42k. I know that $100k is achievable although $80k-$90k is probably more realistic. That's in Vic/NSW I mean; can't speak for Qld.
Just goes to show, you can't trust surveys!
(This is where I come back in 6 months with a mouthful of humble pie asking to join JTL in his endless work-free sun+drink-sodden afternoons!)
That is, frankly, a load of bo***cks. Speaking as a highly experienced C++/Java person, I would ROFL a great deal at $42k. I know that $100k is achievable although $80k-$90k is probably more realistic. That's in Vic/NSW I mean; can't speak for Qld.
Just goes to show, you can't trust surveys!
(This is where I come back in 6 months with a mouthful of humble pie asking to join JTL in his endless work-free sun+drink-sodden afternoons!)
Apparently, the wifeys quoted wage was so high because she is Siebel certified. I'm Siebel trained as well, but it aint my forte, and I'm not certified (i.e. my company wouldn't pay for me to take the exam), I can't believe companies would be so shallow to add 50% on to her wage just cos she took the exam.
Anyway, Siebel is childs play, real geeks use C++
I'm definitely cruisin for a bruisin from the wife, but she's asleep on the couch for now, the beating can wait till the morning
JTL
