Rude Restaurant Manners
Oct 20th 2005 | 10:13 am
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Re: Rude Restaurant Manners
Originally Posted by Bob
natural pestisides are more potent than manmade, and cause just as much if not more damage to the soil...also if natural chemicals aren't used, there's most wasted product, which means more land has to be turned into agriculural use for farming rather than be left as natural land to produce the same amount of goods.
Last edited by Sallyanne; Oct 20th 2005 at 10:14 am. Reason: spelling
Oct 20th 2005 | 11:07 am
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Re: Rude Restaurant Manners
Originally Posted by Guelder Rose
Especially when it comes to eating out ... Friday and Saturday are the worst nights, with every restaurant having loads of people sitting around outside waiting for a table. In the UK, you simply phone and book a table, when you arrive you go straight to your table. Here, it just seems to be a first come, first served basis ... bloody annoying when you're told you'll have to wait 40 minutes for a table!
Bit ironic when you only have to go out on a friday or saturday and drive past any one of the Outback, Olive Garden, Chilis, Longhorn steakhouse's to see them all hanging out for their food.
Oct 20th 2005 | 11:50 am
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Re: Rude Restaurant Manners
Originally Posted by Sallyanne
You are saying that organic farming is less intensive - which could also be seen as good. Don't know the details on "more potent natural pesticides" but the argument sounds a bit suspect - prepared to be proven wrong with a bit more detail
Oct 20th 2005 | 12:14 pm
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Re: Rude Restaurant Manners
Originally Posted by Bob
it's just as intensive to make the same level of produce....and more destructive on the land because more of it is taken away from its natural state for farming....and to be labled organic, has to use natural pesticides, and a lot of them are more damaging for the environment because they don't target certain things....but that said, the produce does taste better, just isn't better for the environment, well in small doses it can be, but if organic practices measured to to conventional farming, it certainly wouldn't.
Oct 20th 2005 | 12:51 pm
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Re: Rude Restaurant Manners
Originally Posted by Sallyanne
Might be better for wildlife and long-term soil quality.
I'm not against organic farming or anything, I'm just pointing out that it's not the be all and completely without cost to the environment either.
Oct 21st 2005 | 1:24 am
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Re: Rude Restaurant Manners
Originally Posted by Bob
natural pestisides are more potent than manmade, and cause just as much if not more damage to the soil...also if natural chemicals aren't used, there's most wasted product, which means more land has to be turned into agriculural use for farming rather than be left as natural land to produce the same amount of goods.
http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/NOP/standards/ListReg.html
If the right farming methods are used, the soil remains more fertile and less artificial fertilizers are required.
If livestock farming had remained organic, we would not have heard of BSE
