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Forum: Canada
Apr 11th 2010, 4:49 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

No rae, you have failed to provide any evidence for your position. You have never addressed a single point I have made other than with unsubstantiated 'it stands to reason that x implies y' (which...
Forum: Canada
Apr 10th 2010, 1:14 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

No rae, it is acceptable to not trust stats based on what they are measuring or the way the data is collected. It is not acceptible to not trust them based on your own world view.

I do not trust...
Forum: Canada
Apr 9th 2010, 8:17 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

No, it's criticizing what you said, not you directly. I actually respect your views or I would have given up by now. The person earlier said I was a nasty idiot - a bit different I think.
Forum: Canada
Apr 9th 2010, 8:16 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

rae, did you really think I believed that there was no crime in the UK:blink:

Not trusting statistics is silly - you might as well not trust arithmetic. You can say the data collection is...
Forum: Canada
Apr 9th 2010, 7:58 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

I guess a fair enough you've got a point there is too much to ask;)
Forum: Canada
Apr 9th 2010, 7:15 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Oh come on rae, that's an incoherent rant. My comment on the UK being crime free was taking the piss. i.e. I've never experienced a crime therefore there is no crime - this is clearly bollocks and...
Forum: Canada
Apr 9th 2010, 5:30 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

When was the last time you were back? If you are in the city and it's anything like leeds it will a load of pound shops where proper shops used to be.
Forum: Canada
Apr 9th 2010, 1:56 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Firstly, I am not contradicting myself - I cited the MMR to contradict your view that relying on personal experience is the best thing to do generally - this is what you said and I disagree with you...
Forum: Canada
Apr 9th 2010, 12:57 am
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 11:31 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

I lived near leeds for a bit. I liked the proximity to the dales - lots of open spaces and little villages called things like blubberhouses.
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 8:43 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

I grew up in the south west - not at all crowded and I remember many crisp sunny winter days.
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 6:39 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

(The fact is you haven't covered my first point - they explicitly state that they don't just speak to people that are victims of crime, and you say otherwise)

I will actually pick up on your...
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 6:10 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Well, then in my personal experience the UK is crime free.
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 5:35 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

It doesn't just get in touch with people who declare themselves victims of crime otherwise (as I said to hs8) "Have you been a victim of crime" would be 100%. Though I bet they do get in touch with...
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 5:21 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Your example is about the police stats, not the BSC. Sure there are margins of error, but don't make the same mistake as hs8.
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 3:44 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

I really don't have anything against hs8 and I hope they realize that none of this is personal - even if the debate gets heated. However if anyone puts forward opinions that have no basis in reality...
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 3:24 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

They do a survey - do you even know how these things work? Obviously they don't just ask the victims of crime if they've experienced a crime as that would mean the BCS survey would be 100% every...
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 3:14 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Yes - 1994 - what about it? It's irrelevant really - I don't know why you are focusing so much on it.

If you worked in for a company that is contracted by the government that is as good as...
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 3:05 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Eh? I think you should go back and read it again. You have clearly misunderstood the point of the BCS.



i.e. it is NOT just crime recorded by the police.
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 2:48 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

You talking about me? I know what the difference between a riot and a demo - I know what happens when poor people are ghettoised and poor planning and policing decisions push people over the edge. ...
Forum: Canada
Apr 8th 2010, 2:32 am
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Forum: Canada
Apr 7th 2010, 11:35 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Yes, I read it - what's wrong with it? You think they should just throw out their system and just listen to you instead?



Actually, I give up. It's not possible to debate with people who...
Forum: Canada
Apr 7th 2010, 11:11 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Yeah - people feeling strongly enough about social deprivation and local government policy to get off their arses and do something about it. You are right, it's a bloody disgrace.

Interesting...
Forum: Canada
Apr 7th 2010, 11:00 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Crime statistics are available on the internet. Look for them here (http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/crime-victims/crime-statistics/index.html).

Note:

That's a nearly halving of the chance of...
Forum: Canada
Apr 7th 2010, 10:11 pm
Replies: 201
Views: 14,841
Posted By Alan2005

Re: Advice for a Canadian moving to England?

Possibly if you were there in 91/92 which was when I was.
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