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Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 14th 2026, 5:29 am
Replies: 9
Views: 1,022
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: 4L and double descent questions; American born 1993t

Ooops , One thing I also find interesting is that the broader legal landscape in this area still appears to be evolving. Romein was ultimately successful before the Supreme Court. Johnson was also...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 14th 2026, 5:10 am
Replies: 9
Views: 1,022
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: 4L and double descent questions; American born 1993t

Hello again everyone. I’ve continued reading through a number of these threads and this seems like a cohort somewhat closer to our situation. One thing I found interesting in your timeline is that...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 26th 2026, 8:00 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,818
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Before closing the 4L chapter for ourselves, I did a great deal of homework. I admit that some parts were difficult to fully grasp. In 1981, people quite literally went to bed one night as Citizens...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 14th 2026, 12:21 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,818
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

For years, this small niche group kept pushing against the walls that were put in place and eventually made it all the way to Section 4L. I’m not sure if this is the final boundary, but if it’s...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 9:28 pm
Replies: 25
Views: 4,818
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Yes, We are a small and largely silent group: post-1988 births with clear lineage but no UK residence history, observing pre-1988 third-generation cases succeed under section 4L, stronger than the...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 8:40 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,818
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Section 4L was drafted in broad language, but in practice the policy seems to confine it largely to cases where a definite 3(2) or 3(5) entitlement can be shown.
I guess Sable's answer: Unlikely
So...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 7:38 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,818
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Section 3(2) was not available in practice because the historical legislative unfairness meant the necessary legal capacity never arose in the first place.
The question, as I see it, is whether...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 4:41 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,818
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

I’m trying to understand how 4L is actually being applied in post-1988 cases.My situation briefly:
UK-born grandmother (1935).
Father born abroad (1961).Father registered under 4C in 2003.
I was...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 2:45 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,818
Posted By MoonAndStar

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

I’m trying to understand how section 4L is currently being applied in post-1988 birth cases. Has anyone seen an actual decision (approval or refusal) involving an applicant born after 1988 where...
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