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Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 26th 2026, 2:37 am
Replies: 21
Views: 4,959
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Section 4L children

I agree and I have pointed out that out in similar circumstances. That said if one had acquired citizenship at birth vs. much later in life it would at least been possible to move to the UK while the...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 12th 2026, 3:35 am
Replies: 9
Views: 979
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: 4L and double descent questions; American born 1993t

At some level you are right but the problem is the Home Office has taken the stance unless there is some provable attempt to move to the UK just the mere fact that your parent could have moved is not...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
May 9th 2026, 4:24 am
Replies: 9
Views: 979
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: 4L and double descent questions; American born 1993t

Your understanding is pretty much spot on. Basically unless you are willing to go to court and try for some Romein type decision you are not likely to get anywhere with the Home Office. Other than...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Apr 19th 2026, 1:54 am
Replies: 2
Views: 513
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Potential route to Citizenship under 4L

You are correct that is a straight forward claim.
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Apr 17th 2026, 3:50 am
Replies: 20
Views: 7,149
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: 2025 Applying for British Citizenship

Congrats. Unfortunately the Home Office has started assessing folks who can apply under other sections of the law on those sections. 4C confers citizenship by descent so there is no automatic...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Apr 17th 2026, 3:28 am
Replies: 2
Views: 575
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: I believe I have a route via 4L for citizenship

Folks are correct consular registration wasn't a thing in commonwealth countries so while your mom has a claim you do not. That said I have seen one positive data point of a 4L clam made on consular...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Mar 8th 2026, 8:48 am
Replies: 4
Views: 979
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Section 4L (ARD) advice - Born 1992 - Grandmother born in UK

Ah thank you. So many twists and turns in British nationality law.
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Mar 6th 2026, 8:02 am
Replies: 21
Views: 4,959
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Section 4L children

Yes! I am currently travelling right now but when I get back to the US I am going to look at the family tree. The US side of my family is all pretty much all from New England so there might be a...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Mar 6th 2026, 7:57 am
Replies: 4
Views: 979
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Section 4L (ARD) advice - Born 1992 - Grandmother born in UK

Also you are ignoring the fact your Dad could have registered via 4C starting in 2003 so if he wanted UK citizenship there was path for him 19 years prior to 4L.
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 8:58 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

That has been my interpretation. While my daughter's circumstances vary a little from yours they are similar and I came to the same conclusion for her. Essentially the only relatively broad paths...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 7:56 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

It is not limited to cases of automatic acquisition since one of the most popular use cases of it is based on consular registration which was not automatic.
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 5:42 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

4C confers citizenship by decent so unless you actually meet the requirement of 3(2) or 3(5) I do not believe there is a path for you. Your minority at the time your dad acquired citizenship doesn't...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Feb 13th 2026, 3:51 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

What would be your 4L argument in this scenario? Most of the 4L arguments you see here are those based on consular registration path where it was possible for the second generation born outside the...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jan 26th 2026, 6:47 am
Replies: 12
Views: 869
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Form UKM and supporting documents

From what I have read elsewhere from experts you don't need a copy of the mother's passport. I cannot confirm that myself because everybody in my family including my mom has all the the passports...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jan 23rd 2026, 9:46 am
Replies: 21
Views: 4,959
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Section 4L children

For what it is worth my daughter is in the same place. My mother was a British born woman and I recently registered as a British citizen but because my daughter was born after 1987 and became 18...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Nov 23rd 2025, 3:32 am
Replies: 10
Views: 1,904
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Section 4L application timeline?

It seems like at least some of the US consulates may be backed up a bit. I got approved in middle of October and just got my date to go to the embassy in DC for citizenship ceremony in mid-December....
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Nov 14th 2025, 3:57 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Thanks for the insight. I doesn't impact me because I just did a straight 4C application (only child turned 18 just before 4L became a thing and not having more) but it will likely impact my...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Nov 13th 2025, 6:03 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

I agree I am pretty sure this is to cut back on minor children who would not normally be entitled to British citizenship getting it. Neither of the folks who were assessed under alternative sections...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Nov 13th 2025, 2:10 am
Replies: 25
Views: 4,775
Posted By Hadrian34857

Possible Change in Interpretation of 4L by Home Office?

Heads up, it looks like the Home Office may have recently adopted a more narrow interpretation of who is allowed to use 4L. There are now two data points on Reddit in the last week where folks were...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Nov 11th 2025, 5:22 am
Replies: 23
Views: 4,285
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Section 4L Application

Your screen capture is leaving out the other requirements. My read of that list is you need to meet all the applicable requirements in that list so to get back to BritinParis' point how do you meet...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Oct 18th 2025, 2:07 am
Replies: 29
Views: 4,021
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Form UKM eligibility - grandmother born UK 1912, need (I was born before 198

For what it is worth I did UKM (slightly different scenario than you) and I didn't use a lawyer. Honestly it is mostly a document collection exercise. In my case I was claiming UK citizenship from...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Oct 1st 2025, 12:57 am
Replies: 3
Views: 968
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: 4L citizenship

I will preface this with I am absolutely no expert but as somebody who is going through getting UK citizenship for myself (born to a UK born mother before 1983) and I would love to get UK citizenship...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Jun 2nd 2025, 1:37 am
Replies: 5
Views: 1,646
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Any Advantage in ARD vs UKM if only child is 18+?

Hey, hey sorry for delay got side tracked on other things. You are correct. I was not in the UK for 3 consecutive years at any point. My father was a US diplomat assigned to various posts in the...
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Apr 2nd 2025, 4:18 am
Replies: 5
Views: 1,646
Posted By Hadrian34857

Re: Any Advantage in ARD vs UKM if only child is 18+?

Thank you so much for this response and you other responses in this forum which helped a lot with my research. I'll move forward via UKM then.
Forum: Citizenship/Passports and Spouse/Family Visas (UK)
Apr 1st 2025, 2:07 am
Replies: 5
Views: 1,646
Posted By Hadrian34857

Any Advantage in ARD vs UKM if only child is 18+?

First off, I want to thank folks for all the excellent information here as it has already helped me immensely in my research on getting my UK citizenship.

That said, I have a quick question for...
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