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Old Mar 24th 2013, 9:38 am
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interesting article - sad but true !

http://gulfbusiness.com/2013/03/are-.../#.UU7Iehwj2VE
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Old Mar 24th 2013, 9:41 am
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The average monthly salary for a Western expatriate in the UAE is $11,936.

AVERAGE????? thats best part of AED44,000!

I don't think so.
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The Gulf Business Salary Survey 2013 surveyed the average remuneration for 20 roles, including finance, real estate and media, across the six Gulf countries.
I think I agree with Kix, average seems quite high.
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I used to be when I worked for the government. I was on a Grade 2 salary, whereas my two Indian colleagues were on respectively Grade 3 salary (Northern Inda) and Grade 4 salary (Southern India). We all did the same job.

Now I work for an international company and we are all paid according to our qualifications and experience, which is how it should be
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Sad but true? I certainly don't think so. I'm sure that there are plenty of Asian expats who would love to be earning their "average" salary of USD8,853 ( over Dhs32,500)! Where do they invent these figures?

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Originally Posted by LaLaLayla
I used to be when I worked for the government. I was on a Grade 2 salary, whereas my two Indian colleagues were on respectively Grade 3 salary (Northern Inda) and Grade 4 salary (Southern India). We all did the same job.

Now I work for an international company and we are all paid according to our qualifications and experience, which is how it should be
Thats odd that they differentiate amongst Indians, thought they lumped all Subcons as one in regards to salary and treatment.
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
Thats odd that they differentiate amongst Indians, thought they lumped all Subcons as one in regards to salary and treatment.
They are brutal with each other. I try moving Southern Indians to the North and finding guys to do it is like finding rocking horse shit.
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Thats odd that they differentiate amongst Indians, thought they lumped all Subcons as one in regards to salary and treatment.
Nope. Well, not at the AD govt, anyway.
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They are brutal with each other. I try moving Southern Indians to the North and finding guys to do it is like finding rocking horse shit.
Pardon my confusion; you mean that as Human Resources / Recruiter you try to find work for S.Indians in Northern India but S.Indians do not want to move north?
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Originally Posted by LaLaLayla
Nope. Well, not at the AD govt, anytway.
So they pay Northern Indians and I assume Pakistanis more for the same job than Southern Indians? How do they possibly determine who is Northern and who is Southern
Am curious;do Pathans get treated the same as Grade 3 salary types? When I was in AD, Pathans were most visible in the construction, landscaping and taxi driver industry , the first 2 were about the worst jobs with the possible exception of housemaid, depending on how human the employer was.

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
When I was in AD, Pathans were most visible in the construction, landscaping and taxi driver industry , the first 2 were about the worst jobs with the possible exception of housemaid, depending on how human the employer was.
That's about education, not race.

I get paid according to my passport which is "Western". Those with "Eastern" passports get paid less, simply because the company thinks that they will accept less based on what they would get paid after tax in their home countries. And... the company is correct in that assumption, as there are far more Eastern engineers than Western engineers, so obviously there is not a shortage of takers.
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Originally Posted by OriginalSunshine
That's about education, not race.

I get paid according to my passport which is "Western". Those with "Eastern" passports get paid less, simply because the company thinks that they will accept less based on what they would get paid after tax in their home countries. And... the company is correct in that assumption, as there are far more Eastern engineers than Western engineers, so obviously there is not a shortage of takers.
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Are you referring to the case of Pathans?

LLL mentioned N.Indians were in a higher salary category than S.Indians for doing the same job, so it isn't nationality or education .
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Drink from the teat while the cream still flows, western fat cats.
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Drink from the teat while the cream still flows, western fat cats.
How goes Emiratisation,Qatarisation,Saudisation,Kuwaitisati on ?
Is the UAE quite successfull in replacing Westerners with Locals?
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Is the UAE quite successfull in replacing Westerners with Locals?
As the saying goes, it's hard to get the patient to take the medicine when they quite like the disease.
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