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Old Apr 22nd 2014, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by mikewot
We getting into a hamster wheel but sport doesn't count for anything other than as a pastime. Military does not need those qualities nowadays as there is almost no hand to hand fighting amongst 1st world nations, they generally use stand off weapons. Transporting equipment is by mechanical means.
If you've ever met any UK special forces people they do not stand out by being big, lean, fighting machines but normal sized average looking guys.
Can't recall what most SAS personnel look like , only have the image of Andy McNab and Bear Grylls and yes both look average stature.

Whether it is SAS or Ironman , Tour De France or extreme sports , the person who has superior endurance ability to withstand climate extremes will fare better. It would certainly help Special Forces personnel if they can endure far more adverse weather and conditions than the average bloke.
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Whether it is SAS or Ironman , Tour De France or extreme sports , the person who has superior endurance ability to withstand climate extremes will fare better. It would certainly help Special Forces personnel if they can endure far more adverse weather and conditions than the average bloke.
I promised myself I wouldn't post again but what to do?
Ironman, Tour De France blah blah are trivial pastimes and not required to advance the survival of the human race. We are at a place where our species is beyond the point of needing to adapt to survive because we can change the environment to suit ourselves, we keep members of our species alive who would never survive without our specialist expertise and care. Darwinian Evolution by Natural Selection is (IMHO) no longer applicable to humans except for thickies who should be dissuaded from breeding, preferably by removal from the gene pool.
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http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/observatio...he-future.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-honoured.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004223179,00.html
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Eugenics - bring it on ! Snip snip for all those effers on the Jeremy Kyle Show. THAT would improve the gene pool !
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Eugenics - bring it on ! Snip snip for all those effers on the Jeremy Kyle Show. THAT would improve the gene pool !
Provided that also applies to the producers and everyone else involved in the decision to air it.
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And those who watch it ! (Except me !)
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Originally Posted by mikewot
Darwinian Evolution by Natural Selection is (IMHO) no longer applicable to humans .
it will always be applicable, whilst we may not have seen any external force driving it for a while it is a fallacy to assume that we wont see it again in the future.
Evolution is largely not driven by slow day to day change but by occasional catastrophic change.

we can ameliorate many evolutionary factors that put pressure on us but we do not and never will control them all. There is also an argument to say that we ourselves through catastrophic environmental change are actually increasing the burden upon ourselves.
Take the dropping fertility rate largely ascribed to pollution in the west for a very good example. The average male in the UK has a sperm count several factors lower than that of his grandfather, at the current rate natural reproduction in the west will be near impossible within a few generations.
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Originally Posted by mikewot
I promised myself I wouldn't post again but what to do?
I had the same inclination but on this thread couldn't resist.

Ironman, Tour De France blah blah are trivial pastimes and not required to advance the survival of the human race. We are at a place where our species is beyond the point of needing to adapt to survive because we can change the environment to suit ourselves, we keep members of our species alive who would never survive without our specialist expertise and care. Darwinian Evolution by Natural Selection is (IMHO) no longer applicable to humans except for thickies who should be dissuaded from breeding, preferably by removal from the gene pool.
I agree that as a species we humans don't rely on physically benefically mutations at present like our stone age ancestors did but as an individual a person can benefit from his/her body's ability to withstand enviroments that the majority of the people coulcn't. It confers an advantage to the individual, just as being tall and having an above average #$%^ confers an advantage

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"The average male in the UK has a sperm count several factors lower than that of his grandfather, at the current rate natural reproduction in the west will be near impossible within a few generations "

So who is going to take over ??
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Amazing .

The teen quickly lost consciousness as temperatures in the wheel well sank as low as minus 80 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 62 degrees Celsius), according to FBI special agent Tom Simon in Hawaii.

The FBI said the plane eventually reached an altitude of 38,000 feet, a level where oxygen is so scarce that survival is difficult.

The only way the teenager could have lived through such a journey was for his brain to cool down enough to require only a low level of oxygen, but not enough for his heart to stop beating, said Peter Hackett, director of the Institute For Altitude Medicine in Colorado.

"It's all a little hard to believe, but that's the explanation," Hackett said.
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Originally Posted by scot47
"The average male in the UK has a sperm count several factors lower than that of his grandfather, at the current rate natural reproduction in the west will be near impossible within a few generations "

So who is going to take over ??
Never mind that, what does "factor" mean in this context? (Correctly mean.)
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