Yet another grand plan

Old Nov 24th 2009, 6:14 am
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http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....711239843/1139

"As part of its efforts to increase the amount of green space, the municipality announced plans yesterday to gradually replace the concrete and sand surfaces of all car parks with real grass."


i am becoming more and more convinced that our erstwhile leaders are smoking crack daily.

how about actually finishing half the plans already in place and putting grass in all the ares which have irrigation piping sticking pointlessly up into the air.
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Grass, carparks..
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nice idea, but considering how difficult they are to keep looking good - it's rare to find them in the UK. Plus it needs to be built really carefully... oh, wait...

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You have to laugh at this really though...

"Environmental experts and motorists like the proposal. Ibrahim al-Zu’bi, an environmental expert, welcomed any plan that might add to the amount of greenery"

"Green parking is one of the environmentally friendly solutions adopted by Dubai Municipality to meet the expected urban expansion.”

the project “would help in reducing [the UAE’s] carbon footprint and benefit the environment”.

Ok, so growing grass in the desert is a green policy that will reduce the carbon foot print. Let me think, where does the water come from... that will be a gas or oil fired desalination plant then.
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Nothing loves grass more than the wheels of a 4x4...

I had to picture the parking lot of Spinneys paved in grass. How long do you think the grass would last? Half a day?
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We have grass parking on Yas for the F1, but the idea was it would only be used for 4 days a year. It has all the necessary sub soil framing under the turf, but it still took a battering.

Nice idea, wrong application.
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Originally Posted by EmiratesMillhouse View Post
the project “would help in reducing [the UAE’s] carbon footprint and benefit the environment”.

... that will be a gas or oil fired desalination plant then.
I wonder sometimes if people like the environmental authority that they quoted has a clue...its a real problem that people are so divorced from the supply chain.

I am astounded at the wastage of water, the hosing of footpaths, the daily washing of cars, etc..
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I wonder sometimes if people like the environmental authority that they quoted has a clue...its a real problem that people are so divorced from the supply chain.

I am astounded at the wastage of water, the hosing of footpaths, the daily washing of cars, etc..
I think it's a case of them having seen it done elsewhere and "wanting one of those please"... they just don't seem to engage in the thought process of whether or not it is feasible or appropriate, probably stemming from the fact that money is no object (or was).
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they are just looking for somewhere to pump all that barely treated sewage water
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If they want to be more "Green" all they need to do is put more solar panels around the place, plant loads more trees (the kind of trees that grow here naturally with minimal water) and start planning a huge solar power plant out in the desert somewhere.

More city planning with lots of underground trains would help as well...and a metro link between Sharjah, Dubai and Abu Dhabi would probably cut emissions greatly too.

Carpooling, more efficient A/C systems will help too.

And covering ugly patches of sand in the city with gravel will be better than grass...and will help reduce dust in the air.

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk View Post
If they want to be more "Green" all they need to do is put more solar panels around the place, plant loads more trees (the kind of trees that grow here naturally with minimal water) and start planning a huge solar power plant out in the desert somewhere.

More city planning with lots of underground trains would help as well...and a metro link between Sharjah, Dubai and Abu Dhabi would probably cut emissions greatly too.

Carpooling, more efficient A/C systems will help too.

And covering ugly patches of sand in the city with gravel will be better than grass...and will help reduce dust in the air.

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Do you honestly think that they actually care? Look at what they are doing to the sea!

I hear that Masdar is bascially on hold now to.
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Originally Posted by Norm_uk View Post
If they want to be more "Green" all they need to do is put more solar panels around the place, plant loads more trees (the kind of trees that grow here naturally with minimal water) and start planning a huge solar power plant out in the desert somewhere.

More city planning with lots of underground trains would help as well...and a metro link between Sharjah, Dubai and Abu Dhabi would probably cut emissions greatly too.

Carpooling, more efficient A/C systems will help too.

And covering ugly patches of sand in the city with gravel will be better than grass...and will help reduce dust in the air.

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk View Post
If they want to be more "Green" all they need to do is put more solar panels around the place, plant loads more trees (the kind of trees that grow here naturally with minimal water) and start planning a huge solar power plant out in the desert somewhere.

More city planning with lots of underground trains would help as well...and a metro link between Sharjah, Dubai and Abu Dhabi would probably cut emissions greatly too.

Carpooling, more efficient A/C systems will help too.

And covering ugly patches of sand in the city with gravel will be better than grass...and will help reduce dust in the air.

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Great ideas. Unlike the totally SHIT idea of having grass in carpaprks.
Who is this environmental 'consultant'? Maybe all it means is that whenever a company wants to greenwash something, they ask Shell who they 'consult'.
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Originally Posted by Norm_uk View Post
If they want to be more "Green" all they need to do is put more solar panels around the place, plant loads more trees (the kind of trees that grow here naturally with minimal water) and start planning a huge solar power plant out in the desert somewhere.

More city planning with lots of underground trains would help as well...and a metro link between Sharjah, Dubai and Abu Dhabi would probably cut emissions greatly too.

Carpooling, more efficient A/C systems will help too.

And covering ugly patches of sand in the city with gravel will be better than grass...and will help reduce dust in the air.

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Solar Power apparently isn't as 'green' as most of us like to think....considering the manufacture process and disposal of the panels.

Don't want to get into the pro's and cons...sure it's better than coal fired power stations....but it's not the holy grail of power generation.
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You been reading fairy stories again?

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Originally Posted by Jeeper View Post
Solar Power apparently isn't as 'green' as most of us like to think....considering the manufacture process and disposal of the panels.

Don't want to get into the pro's and cons...sure it's better than coal fired power stations....but it's not the holy grail of power generation.
Absolutely but the technology will never reach it's potential without further investment and trial...where better than countries like the UAE who have huge amounts of sunlight.

My money is still on nuclear power as we have a lot of experience with it and are getting better at handling the waste. I don't think I'd trust this lot with a nuclear plant though!

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