Whose fault?
Nov 26th 2008, 7:24 am
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Whose fault?
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...pes/index.html
I am not sure if there is a thread about this already but damn this really caught my attention. The dad is well, I can't describe it but are the daughters too dumb to wait for that long to report him? And what about he authorities?
this is sick :curse:
I am not sure if there is a thread about this already but damn this really caught my attention. The dad is well, I can't describe it but are the daughters too dumb to wait for that long to report him? And what about he authorities?
this is sick :curse:
Nov 26th 2008, 7:39 am
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Re: Whose fault?
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...pes/index.html
I am not sure if there is a thread about this already but damn this really caught my attention. The dad is well, I can't describe it but are the daughters too dumb to wait for that long to report him? And what about he authorities?
this is sick :curse:
I am not sure if there is a thread about this already but damn this really caught my attention. The dad is well, I can't describe it but are the daughters too dumb to wait for that long to report him? And what about he authorities?
this is sick :curse:
Nov 26th 2008, 7:41 am
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Re: Whose fault?
Disgusting.... 
Nov 26th 2008, 8:28 am
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why ayeeeee man!
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Re: Whose fault?
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...pes/index.html
I am not sure if there is a thread about this already but damn this really caught my attention. The dad is well, I can't describe it but are the daughters too dumb to wait for that long to report him? And what about he authorities?
this is sick :curse:
I am not sure if there is a thread about this already but damn this really caught my attention. The dad is well, I can't describe it but are the daughters too dumb to wait for that long to report him? And what about he authorities?
this is sick :curse:
Nov 26th 2008, 8:50 am
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Re: Whose fault?
you know what gets on my nerve? It's those victims. Granted the father should be hanged for this but the daughters could have avoided a lot of this raping by just insisting to get help. They wanted to keep the babies? Well if I was one of their kids I don't want anyone to know that my grandfather is my father too. I'd rather get thrown in a convent or something and get a new family.
The daughers aren't thinking about their children, and it is not like the father kept them in a basement for thier entire lives like that Austrian freak. Bottom line is sometimes victims have to stand up and fight because not everyone is going to help them.
The daughers aren't thinking about their children, and it is not like the father kept them in a basement for thier entire lives like that Austrian freak. Bottom line is sometimes victims have to stand up and fight because not everyone is going to help them.
Nov 26th 2008, 9:03 am
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Re: Whose fault?
you know what gets on my nerve? It's those victims. Granted the father should be hanged for this but the daughters could have avoided a lot of this raping by just insisting to get help. They wanted to keep the babies? Well if I was one of their kids I don't want anyone to know that my grandfather is my father too. I'd rather get thrown in a convent or something and get a new family.
The daughers aren't thinking about their children, and it is not like the father kept them in a basement for thier entire lives like that Austrian freak. Bottom line is sometimes victims have to stand up and fight because not everyone is going to help them.
The daughers aren't thinking about their children, and it is not like the father kept them in a basement for thier entire lives like that Austrian freak. Bottom line is sometimes victims have to stand up and fight because not everyone is going to help them.
Nov 26th 2008, 9:29 am
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Re: Whose fault?
you know what gets on my nerve? It's those victims. Granted the father should be hanged for this but the daughters could have avoided a lot of this raping by just insisting to get help. They wanted to keep the babies? Well if I was one of their kids I don't want anyone to know that my grandfather is my father too. I'd rather get thrown in a convent or something and get a new family.
The daughers aren't thinking about their children, and it is not like the father kept them in a basement for thier entire lives like that Austrian freak. Bottom line is sometimes victims have to stand up and fight because not everyone is going to help them.
The daughers aren't thinking about their children, and it is not like the father kept them in a basement for thier entire lives like that Austrian freak. Bottom line is sometimes victims have to stand up and fight because not everyone is going to help them.
What kinda IQ do you think this particular gene pool has?
Respectfully, if you knew anything about this subject then you would understand that is isn't that cut and dried.In all probability the father is an abused turned abuser-it is a cyclical disease and breaking the cycle is the problem.The second and third generation abused are brought up to believe its normal-isolating them and educating them is the only way.Believe it or not, some victims of such as described prefer to remain than be taken out of the family they know.........
Nov 26th 2008, 9:37 am
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What kinda IQ do you think this particular gene pool has?
Respectfully, if you knew anything about this subject then you would understand that is isn't that cut and dried.In all probability the father is an abused turned abuser-it is a cyclical disease and breaking the cycle is the problem.The second and third generation abused are brought up to believe its normal-isolating them and educating them is the only way.Believe it or not, some victims of such as described prefer to remain than be taken out of the family they know.........
Respectfully, if you knew anything about this subject then you would understand that is isn't that cut and dried.In all probability the father is an abused turned abuser-it is a cyclical disease and breaking the cycle is the problem.The second and third generation abused are brought up to believe its normal-isolating them and educating them is the only way.Believe it or not, some victims of such as described prefer to remain than be taken out of the family they know.........
Nov 26th 2008, 9:40 am
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we don't even know how "isolated" they were. They probably were just like everybody else except for the father raping things. what's genes have to do with that? you're telling me being a sheep like is part of the genes? or acting like a maniac and raping your daughters is a gene disorder? I don't think so, its only a pshcological disease I don't think genes have to do with anything in this.
Of course,you are entitled to your opinion on this -its just different from mine and that's fine.
Nov 26th 2008, 9:49 am
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we don't even know how "isolated" they were. They probably were just like everybody else except for the father raping things. what's genes have to do with that? you're telling me being a sheep like is part of the genes? or acting like a maniac and raping your daughters is a gene disorder? I don't think so, its only a pshcological disease I don't think genes have to do with anything in this.
im pleased they dont want to go public with who they are, these poor girls have been raped for the bulk of their lives, have now a screwed up family! If you listened to the report they wanted help 10 years ago but i suppose like any mother you want to protect your children... she thought she was going to loose them! You really know nothing at all about the situation and i think you are talking utter sh!t! dont dare blame the victims, im sure they didnt ask to be raped and when they refused, beaten and burnt!
Nov 26th 2008, 9:50 am
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we don't even know how "isolated" they were. They probably were just like everybody else except for the father raping things. what's genes have to do with that? you're telling me being a sheep like is part of the genes? or acting like a maniac and raping your daughters is a gene disorder? I don't think so, its only a pshcological disease I don't think genes have to do with anything in this.
Simeo, i think you may have misread the post? I think Eva was making a reference to genepool in terms of their IQ, inferring that they were at the lower end of the scale. Also, Eva didn't say that the abuse cycle was instigated by a particular gene, also the abused need to be isolated FROM the abusers to be educated that their life is not 'normal' and that it can be improved.
From my own perspective, I believe that psychological binds to an abuser are far more powerful than physical restraints. Often vicitms feel that they deserved it, and especially with pre pubescent sexual awareness, they can feel that they actually wanted it. There are very complex emotions involved.
Nov 26th 2008, 9:57 am
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From my own perspective, I believe that psychological binds to an abuser are far more powerful than physical restraints. Often vicitms feel that they deserved it, and especially with pre pubescent sexual awareness, they can feel that they actually wanted it. There are very complex emotions involved.
Nov 26th 2008, 9:59 am
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Obviously you have experienced this first hand so yes we should all agree with you!
im pleased they dont want to go public with who they are, these poor girls have been raped for the bulk of their lives, have now a screwed up family! If you listened to the report they wanted help 10 years ago but i suppose like any mother you want to protect your children... she thought she was going to loose them! You really know nothing at all about the situation and i think you are talking utter sh!t! dont dare blame the victims, im sure they didnt ask to be raped and when they refused, beaten and burnt!
im pleased they dont want to go public with who they are, these poor girls have been raped for the bulk of their lives, have now a screwed up family! If you listened to the report they wanted help 10 years ago but i suppose like any mother you want to protect your children... she thought she was going to loose them! You really know nothing at all about the situation and i think you are talking utter sh!t! dont dare blame the victims, im sure they didnt ask to be raped and when they refused, beaten and burnt!
Are you really thinking I am defending their prevert of a father?