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Old Jun 26th 2019, 11:50 am
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These two don't help the stereotype of Scots being drunks do they?
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Old Jun 30th 2019, 9:44 am
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Then you are as disillusioned as hard brexiters.
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These two don't help the stereotype of Scots being drunks do they?
Why is it the English believe we are crazy to think Scotland can stand on its own???

If you would humour me, Id like to know why you 2 believe we can't...
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Old Jun 30th 2019, 10:10 am
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Why is it the English believe we are crazy to think Scotland can stand on its own???

If you would humour me, Id like to know why you 2 believe we can't...
Why would you want to? The vast majority of Scottish trade is within the UK. The numbers don't actually stack up.
What's the list of benefits of Scotland being independent?

Personally, I don't ultimately mind whether Scotland goes alone or not, I just think it would be a great shame and a mistake. My Father's opinion as a pretty die-hard Scot is that it would be a crap good idea, even though in his heart he'd love it.

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Old Jul 24th 2019, 5:10 am
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Maybe they're just relocating temporarily to get the kids through free University?
That is a bloody good idea! I've got three kids it would be much cheaper than fees, I've just looked at house prices in Scotland they are giving them away.
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Old Jul 24th 2019, 5:31 am
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The UK donates 17 Billion to the EU each year which the EU spends improving the infrastructure in deprived areas. Of that spending 4 Billion is spent within the UK. The areas that have benefited from that investment are more pro EU than those areas which have not. Does it not stand to reason that post Brexit Investment will continue to be made in improving the infrastructure of the UK. Effectively the British government will be contracting direct to the civil contractor and dumping the Belgium management contractor who wont get to make a management fee. Is that not the reason why the EU are pissed off. Speaking as a Management Contractor I know I would be.
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The areas that have benefited from that investment are more pro EU than those areas which have not.
Top five areas benefiting from EU subsidies:Cornwall, West Wales, Highlands & Islands, East Wales, Tees Valley (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-how-does-thi/)
Brexit referendum result in each of those areas (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ea_results.svg):
Cornwall: Brexit
West Wales: Mixed, depending on constituency, but probably more Brexit than Remain
Highlands & Islands: Remain
East Wales: Brexit
Tees Valley: Brexit
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Top five areas benefiting from EU subsidies:Cornwall, West Wales, Highlands & Islands, East Wales, Tees Valley (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-how-does-thi/)
Brexit referendum result in each of those areas (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ea_results.svg):
Cornwall: Brexit
West Wales: Mixed, depending on constituency, but probably more Brexit than Remain
Highlands & Islands: Remain
East Wales: Brexit
Tees Valley: Brexit
Wow, very specific analysis, I was referring to a much less detailed report I read some time ago, I'm reading up. Thanks.
Looking at the data maps it is apparent that the particularly populated areas of Wales Northern Ireland and Scotland voted pro EU in the referendum bearing out my argument that people vote with their wallet. Two areas disprove my argument for opposing reasons. Cornwall received a lot of investment although remains predominantly anti EU. London on the other hand received no EU funding but continued to support the EU. My argument is wrong, Londoners it would appear are more generous than I gave them credit for. I’ve also learned not to feed a dog in Cornwall since it is likely to bite.

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My argument is wrong, Londoners it would appear are more generous than I gave them credit for. I’ve also learned not to feed a dog in Cornwall since it is likely to bite.[/QUOTE]

Nope, its just that there are very few British people in London
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Old Jul 24th 2019, 12:34 pm
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Nope, its just that there are very few British people in London[/QUOTE]

True Shed but much of the immigrants population originates from the common wealth. They I remember are very disappointed that EU members have visa free entry to a country they fort and died for.
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Woohoo.
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Old Jul 24th 2019, 7:50 pm
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Top five areas benefiting from EU subsidies:Cornwall, West Wales, Highlands & Islands, East Wales, Tees Valley (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-how-does-thi/)
Brexit referendum result in each of those areas (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ea_results.svg):
Cornwall: Brexit
West Wales: Mixed, depending on constituency, but probably more Brexit than Remain
Highlands & Islands: Remain
East Wales: Brexit
Tees Valley: Brexit
As the UK is a net contributor to the EU budget people are astute enough to know that "EU funding" is really UK funding under the EU's name. That's why tying to see a hypocrisy or insensibility in an area receiving large EU funding but voting to leave always falls flat.

That London, which receives the lowest in EU funding but is one of the most Remain areas also confirms that people's attachment to the EU is not and never driven by financial reasons alone. The EU is a political construct that has moved far beyond being a common market and belief in the EU has taken on not just economic but political and even moral elements. The so-called four freedoms of the EU where the EU refuses to allow freedom of movement be detached from the other three freedoms firmly proves this, despite that freedom of movement is not and has never been a necessary requirement for the single market's success. The moral attachment is also why elements of of the Remain camp are so outspoken and feel deeply betrayed, for in their eyes they saw rejection of the EU as a rejection of of their own liberal values. The failure to distinguish between the two is a blind spot for these Remainers. It also explains their hatred of Boris Johnson, who is one of the most liberal Tory figures and one who actually does embrace diversity and immigration as a good thing, for they cannot see how such a person can hold such a view and still support leaving the EU.
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH View Post
As the UK is a net contributor to the EU budget people are astute enough to know that "EU funding" is really UK funding under the EU's name. That's why tying to see a hypocrisy or insensibility in an area receiving large EU funding but voting to leave always falls flat.
Maybe I misunderstood, but where in my post did I "see a hypocrisy"? I was just correcting an incorrect statement.

Incidentally, in 2015 only 9% of Brits were aware that the EU provides regional funding (https://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy...summary_en.pdf, page 6).

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