Who's the next PM
Rumour is May may resign tonight. Whenever it is, her time is up very soon.
Who will replace her? Who do you have your money on? BoJo? Andrea Leadsom? Dominic Raab? Esther McVey? |
Re: Who's the next PM
I would question the sanity of anyone who would take the role before Brexit is either a done deal or abandoned.. If Theresa May resigns I foresee a general election.
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True.
Lidington is rumoured to be the caretaker PM pending a leadership contest. So he'd technically be the next PM. As for a GE. Probably. Not not quite yet. |
Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12687426)
I would question the sanity of anyone who would take the role before Brexit is either a done deal or abandoned.. If Theresa May resigns I foresee a general election.
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Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 12687438)
You haven't been following. If Bojo gets the job, he'll immediately become a remainer. The JOB is all he wants, but he'll f**k it up.
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Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12687441)
I think it's you who hasn't been following. … Boris could have easily snatched the job after the Brexit vote if that is all he wanted, but he recognized it for the poisoned chalice that it is during the Brexit process, and he is too astute a politician to take it before the dust settles.
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Premature after all. She won't go tonight. And 1922 choked again. But Leadsom is out!
Who's next? Any predictions on the EU elections? Will the Tories perform under 10%? Wouldn't be surprised. |
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 12687445)
He pulled out because Gove stabbed him in the back. And he's about as astute as a donkey in pantomime mode.
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Id vote for BoJo - personally need some fun in politics and if the USA can vote a buffoon why the incarnations cants we ??
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It can only be Boris - in which case it probably won’t be. The front runner never wins in Tory leadership contests and he’s p****d off too many people in the Parliamentary Conservative Party to get on the membership ballot paper. That being said he’s likely to be the only contender to put Corbyn to bed. Will today’s shellacking in the polls focus minds? We’ll see.
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Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by UKCityGent
(Post 12687720)
Id vote for BoJo - personally need some fun in politics and if the USA can vote a buffoon why the incarnations cants we ??
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
(Post 12687729)
It’s a pity this won’t be done in time for Trump’s state visit for the hair alone :hehe:
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Re: Who's the next PM
I am backing Daffy Duck.
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Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12688104)
I am backing Daffy Duck.
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Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12687708)
Megalols. BoJo astute as a donkey in panto mode. If you think that, he's cleverer than you.
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Johnson should be in The Psych Ward.
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I see ‘Operation Stop Boris’ morphed into ‘Stop Raab’. The only committed Brexiteer quietly neutered.
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Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 12699828)
I'm just a drive-by poster on this thread, but I strongly disagree with your remark. I agree that's he's more narcissistic and psychopathic though.
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Watched the debate last night. Can't for the life of me see why Johnson is so popular. First question re Brexit, and what are your plans. Spoke for two mins about everything that had gone wrong ( to which he had contributed significantly). No mention of what he would do.
Gove, Hunt, Javid all very bland , predictable and uninspiring. Stewart sounds like he should be leading the Labour Party. Spend more money on public services rather than tax cuts. |
Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by nottmbantam
(Post 12700065)
Watched the debate last night. Can't for the life of me see why Johnson is so popular. First question re Brexit, and what are your plans. Spoke for two mins about everything that had gone wrong ( to which he had contributed significantly). No mention of what he would do.
Gove, Hunt, Javid all very bland , predictable and uninspiring. Stewart sounds like he should be leading the Labour Party. Spend more money on public services rather than tax cuts. |
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 12700081)
Johnson is popular because of the traditional British enjoyment of a naughty schoolboy. In itself, that's fair enough... that's why he should be on HIGNFY and writing a jolly-wheeze column. It's a truly dreadful reason to elect him as Prime Minister, but that's apparently what the blue-rinsers and retired Majors who make up the bulk Conservative Party membership want. Terrifying.
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"The majority of the country" ie England. We in Scotland voted to stay. Old Etonian Johnson is anathema to most of my fellow-Scots. Time to bid the Union "adieu"
So long it was good to know you. |
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Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12700587)
"The majority of the country" ie England. We in Scotland voted to stay. Old Etonian Johnson is anathema to most of my fellow-Scots. Time to bid the Union "adieu"
So long it was good to know you. |
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 12700081)
Johnson is popular because of the traditional British enjoyment of a naughty schoolboy. In itself, that's fair enough... that's why he should be on HIGNFY and writing a jolly-wheeze column. It's a truly dreadful reason to elect him as Prime Minister, but that's apparently what the blue-rinsers and retired Majors who make up the bulk Conservative Party membership want. Terrifying.
Originally Posted by BritInParis
(Post 12700107)
The party membership want the same thing as the majority of the country - to leave the EU. They believe that Boris is the only person who can deliver. That may be debatable but what is not is that all other considerations are moot because if the Tory party goes into another general election without us having left then they will be annihilated.
Contract here in KSA ends next year, and it would potentially be a return back to Blighty next year. Already dreading the thought of it. |
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The majority in Scotland did not vote to leave. Such THAT up as you watch the Union of 1707 dissolve. You might miss all those oil revenues. And access to the fish ! Suck that up as you wallow in post-Brexit, post imperial poverty !
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Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12700664)
The majority in Scotland did not vote to leave. Such THAT up as you watch the Union of 1707 dissolve. You might miss all those oil revenues. And access to the fish ! Suck that up as you wallow in post-Brexit, post imperial poverty !
The UK voted to leave the EU. Scotland is part of the UK. |
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Not for much longer, Monsieur Scamp ! Come up here and smell the coffee !
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
(Post 12700107)
The party membership want the same thing as the majority of the country - to leave the EU. They believe that Boris is the only person who can deliver. That may be debatable but what is not is that all other considerations are moot because if the Tory party goes into another general election without us having left then they will be annihilated.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
(Post 12700107)
The party membership want the same thing as the majority of the country - to leave the EU
If you define "the country" as "the total population", 25% voted to leave the EU. If you define "the country" as "the electorate", 37% voted to leave the EU. The best you can say in respect of Brexit is "the majority of those who voted", which is *very* different to "the majority of the country" (which implies more than 50% of either the population or electorate). The idea that Brexit is actively desired by literally more than half the population of the UK is a pernicious one, but it wasn't close to being true in 2016 and if anything it's even less close to being true today.
Originally Posted by NorthernLad
It was a democratic decision to stay. Suck it up
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
They might be right since [Johnson] is the most mendacious and unprincipled of the lot He has no moral compass at all
As he has demonstrated time and again, he is utterly untrustworthy, will say whatever he thinks the person in front of him needs to hear, and will pivot 180º on any of his stated positions at any moment. He's managed to persuade the One Nation Tories that he's the buffoonish but moderate Mayor of London, he's managed to persuade the hard-right Brexiters and Ukippers that he's a Muslim-bashing nationalist. Both can't be true, so... who does he betray first? |
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Originally Posted by Eeyore
(Post 12701166)
Let's get the terms of reference right.
If you define "the country" as "the total population", 25% voted to leave the EU. If you define "the country" as "the electorate", 37% voted to leave the EU. |
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I see where this is going. Next we will be hearing -"The Supreme Leader will close Parliament and he will decide for us !"
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Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12701325)
I see where this is going. Next we will be hearing -"The Supreme Leader will close Parliament and he will decide for us !"
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Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12701305)
Then again your argument also holds for those that voted to remain. Technically, using your analysis, there were not enough votes for anything. He doesn't like being reminded of that these days, for some reason :) |
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Juncker is not the one who has been talking about "proroguing Parliament" The anti-democrats are the Old Etonians who aspire to be leaders.
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Originally Posted by Eeyore
(Post 12701474)
Indeed. Which is why, of course, even Farage said in May 2016 that the result needed to be a two-thirds majority either way to be definitive. He said that a 52-48 win for Remain would be "unfinished business by a long way" and he'd immediately start campaigning for a second referendum.
He doesn't like being reminded of that these days, for some reason :) |
Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12700831)
But they did vote to remain as part of the UK.
The UK voted to leave the EU. Scotland is part of the UK.
Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12700899)
Not for much longer, Monsieur Scamp ! Come up here and smell the coffee !
Scots voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. In fact, a far greater percentage see EU Membership more important than UK membership... Ergo, if the UK leaves the EU, Scotland leaves the UK.... |
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Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12702006)
The Scots were told that the only way to be a part of the EU was to stay in the UK....
Scots voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. In fact, a far greater percentage see EU Membership more important than UK membership... Ergo, if the UK leaves the EU, Scotland leaves the UK.... |
Re: Who's the next PM
Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12700587)
"The majority of the country" ie England. We in Scotland voted to stay. Old Etonian Johnson is anathema to most of my fellow-Scots. Time to bid the Union "adieu"
So long it was good to know you. |
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 12702007)
please don’t make promises you can’t keep. |
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Originally Posted by TGFKASE
(Post 12702010)
Now now, Millhouse.. Surely you dont believe all that 'Scotland is a drain on the UK' BS, do you?
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