weasel decentral

Do you think they will make the date? If I was on the contractor side and the delay was not mine - I'd be hanging out right now for a big acceleration variation claim.

scrubbedexpat141

Main construction work is basically done. LOTS of fit out and individual pavilions stuff to be done still, most of which relies on the participants themselves - well, the responsibility does but the risk is firmly with the event organiser.

Oh, and shit loads of public realm / landscaping / simple infra. SHIT LOADS.

co durham boy

We have just received a big variation to some infrastructure work which will take us through until February 2020 . We were originally delayed by the client as they changed their mind half way through and then multiple times over ..I know a few guys who have been kicked off because they wont sing the same tune , project director level for big outfits .

We had numerous issues at the beginning as it was just fun & games for the wet behind the ears mob on the client side . A lot of that has come back to haunt them now . We were even stopped because the corridors in our accommodation for the men didn't have AC in them !!!!

co durham boy

I'm tendering work connected to some Pavilions yet to start construction . No one will touch these ones with a shitty stick . Difficult programme and piss poor design which is heavily reliant on delivery of specialized components and bespoke manufacture.

scrubbedexpat141

They're about 10% on site for the ones you talk about. The stats on concept design completion or even final designs being approved are even funnier.
It's going to be ****ing hilarious.

scrubbedexpat141

Worker Welfare.

That's a serious department on the programme.

Millhouse

co durham boy

Not one sub contractor can comply but lets not worry about that we'll just try and shaft the main players . Total lip service bullshit . Every seat in a bus must have a hammer in case of an accident for the person to break out !!!!

Some of them haven't got windows !!

Millhouse

scrubbedexpat141

I laughed at this, even though I shouldn't have.

Even lip service is better than nothing. A 1% increase in the treatment of another human is better than doing fudge all.

Do the hammers get through the metal bars?

Millhouse

Given how often fights break out I would have thought the last thing you would want to do it is arming them all.

weasel decentral

I'd agree if the caring was genuine - but it's not. Mostly PR and optics only, no client is willing to pay for the real cost of this level of safety or worker welfare. So the intention is to arms length themselves from any scandal or inquiry that emerges later.

weasel decentral

It's lip service and a tremendous amount of H&S form filling (the cover your ass type) that is utterly meaningless to the actual worker. You'd have to get back to the subcontractor's subcontractor's subcontractor to actually make a real difference. (and pay!)

scrubbedexpat141

Of course most of it is, but that kind of thinking and approach makes 'you' complicit. None of us are perfect but a client who's willing to spend money on worker welfare deserves better than just the usual cynicism I think.

Millhouse

A friend of mine here was the H&S director for one of the big construction companies... very stressful job with his passport being surrendered every time someone died on-site until the issue was resolved/investigated. Some of these guys would purposely jump down lift shafts to end it and it would ruin his holiday plans.

He used to spike their tang with electrolytes so they didn't pass out in the heat. If they ever found out they would stop work, insist on fresh double strength tang and more often than not refuse to drink it anyway. You can't help some of them.