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Cypselos Nov 5th 2012 10:07 am

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 
The Canadians have a version and i think the kiwis use them for Anzac day

Miss Anne Thrope Nov 5th 2012 11:11 am

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10366528)
I am aware - but thanks. The UK is still, as far as I recall, Ireland's sworn enemy, and what passes for a respectful gesture of remembrance in my country would no doubt be seen as inflammatory in yours.

I actually wasn't aware that poppies were worn, or even recognised, in Ireland at all, actually - I thought it was a uniquely British tradition. I think I'm right in saying that not even the 'Commonwealth' countries have an equivalent.

And no need to be so aggressive - I suspect that you and I have far more in common than you might think. My comments about wearing a poppy without caring who objected was meant to be a reference to the Gulf region, but...... anyway, thanks for the dialogue.

My aggression was intended as more pub-jocular than heartfelt sentiment tbh - the dangers of keyboards... My mother is a decorated WACs veteran and member of the British legion and assertive poppy wearer. As I said, it's ambiguous rather than provocative in Ireland. Lots of Irish soldiers died fighting for the Empire in WWI (when we were still part of the UK). Far, far more than the number of Irish revolutionaries who died fighting for independence around the same time.

Indeed I am one of those who ardently believe that Irish soldiers who fought against facism in WWII are deserving of a significant memorial in Ireland also. Not just that but that we should junk our sham neutrality and take our natural place in NATO. I tend to attract a pretty small crowd when I'm preaching from that soapbox though....

Jim Smith Nov 5th 2012 11:25 am

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 
I actually wasn't aware that poppies were worn, or even recognised, in Ireland at all, actually - I thought it was a uniquely British tradition. I think I'm right in saying that not even the 'Commonwealth' countries have an equivalent.


In the Falkland Islands we didn't have an equivalent, we had the real thing. I believe it still happens although I left in 1972. I will have to consult The Penguin News!

The Dean Nov 5th 2012 12:48 pm

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope (Post 10366663)
My aggression was intended as more pub-jocular than heartfelt sentiment tbh - the dangers of keyboards... My mother is a decorated WACs veteran and member of the British legion and assertive poppy wearer. As I said, it's ambiguous rather than provocative in Ireland. Lots of Irish soldiers died fighting for the Empire in WWI (when we were still part of the UK). Far, far more than the number of Irish revolutionaries who died fighting for independence around the same time.

Indeed I am one of those who ardently believe that Irish soldiers who fought against facism in WWII are deserving of a significant memorial in Ireland also. Not just that but that we should junk our sham neutrality and take our natural place in NATO. I tend to attract a pretty small crowd when I'm preaching from that soapbox though....

I'm with you........ I vote to take Ireland out of the EUSSR, and into NATO....... better still, back into the UK, and out of the EU with the UK...... :thumbup:

littlejimmy Nov 5th 2012 1:33 pm

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 
I have bought a poppy every year and have worn a Help For Heroes wristband (some clever arse asked me how much it actually helped), but don't really care if others don't want to. I can understand that. It's personal choice either way, and I can't stand the shitty arguments that come up this time every year or seeing how it has become obligatory to be seen wearing one on TV or have a banner on your facebook profile telling everyone how much you care and if you don't then you're a twat who doesn't care...

Meow Nov 5th 2012 1:37 pm

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by littlejimmy (Post 10366876)
I have bought a poppy every year and have worn a Help For Heroes wristband (some clever arse asked me how much it actually helped), but don't really care if others don't want to. I can understand that. It's personal choice either way, and I can't stand the shitty arguments that come up this time every year or seeing how it has become obligatory to be seen wearing one on TV or have a banner on your facebook profile telling everyone how much you care and if you don't then you're a twat who doesn't care...

Don't start me on that 'repost to show you care' crap! Perhaps I'll show I care by actually getting off my arse and doing something rather than whining on FB?

littlejimmy Nov 5th 2012 1:40 pm

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10366882)
Don't start me on that 'repost to show you care' crap! Perhaps I'll show I care by actually getting off my arse and doing something rather than whining on FB?

Someone posted something about "If you are going to love your kids forever, like and share!"

I replied, "Can't do that; my love runs out on 14th July 2014". (I got a like ;))

Blue Cat Nov 5th 2012 1:45 pm

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by littlejimmy (Post 10366889)
Someone posted something about "If you are going to love your kids forever, like and share!"

I replied, "Can't do that; my love runs out on 14th July 2014". (I got a like ;))

like :)

http://www.facebook.com/corporatebollocks?fref=ts this page amuses me no end'

Meow Nov 6th 2012 6:40 am

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 
There are poppies for sale at Table 9 at Hilton Creek :)


I bought one there so I care more than most of you do. ;)

josieforfun Nov 6th 2012 8:28 am

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 
when I taught in a British school in Saudi we sold them to the students and staff. They came from the British Trade office......Try them. We wore them outside of the compounds and had no problems

Miss Anne Thrope Nov 6th 2012 9:23 am

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10366808)
I'm with you........ I vote to take Ireland out of the EUSSR, and into NATO....... better still, back into the UK, and out of the EU with the UK...... :thumbup:

No, I'm a consistent multilateralist. One of the most compelling reasons against Ireland rejoining the UK - despite the fact that we now love Brenda following her brilliantly flawless visit last year - would be to avoid getting swamped by the brain-dead knee-jerk anti-Europeanism of England. For all it's deficiencies, the EU is humanity's best hope not the silly caricature of the right wing British press. It has been an outstanding success: preventing war, promoting democracy and - yes - stimulating sustainable economic growth (the death of the euro has been imminent for about 10 years now according to your crowd, no?). Despite the recent hardship, I think you will find more strongly pro-EU (and euro) sentiment in Ireland now than pre-crisis. Our "no" votes were at the height of misplaced Celtic tiger arrogance.

The Dean Nov 6th 2012 1:36 pm

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope (Post 10368267)
No, I'm a consistent multilateralist. One of the most compelling reasons against Ireland rejoining the UK - despite the fact that we now love Brenda following her brilliantly flawless visit last year - would be to avoid getting swamped by the brain-dead knee-jerk anti-Europeanism of England. For all it's deficiencies, the EU is humanity's best hope not the silly caricature of the right wing British press. It has been an outstanding success: preventing war, promoting democracy and - yes - stimulating sustainable economic growth (the death of the euro has been imminent for about 10 years now according to your crowd, no?). Despite the recent hardship, I think you will find more strongly pro-EU (and euro) sentiment in Ireland now than pre-crisis. Our "no" votes were at the height of misplaced Celtic tiger arrogance.

Oh no, not again............ the EU 'prevented war'?? Not NATO then??

OK here's the challenge - if there had never been an EU, what war would/might have broken out? And who would have invaded whom? And why? And why would you want to be part of an artificially cobbled together alliance with someone who, had you not allied yourself with them, would have waged war on you?? That makes no sense at all.

Ireland benefitted hugely (i.e. financially) from EU membership. And still screwed up.

The Dean Nov 6th 2012 1:38 pm

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10368668)
Oh no, not again............ the EU 'prevented war'?? Not NATO then??

OK here's the challenge - if there had never been an EU, what war would/might have broken out? And who would have invaded whom? And why? And why would you want to be part of an artificially cobbled together alliance with someone who, had you not allied yourself with them, would have waged war on you?? That makes no sense at all.

Ireland benefitted hugely (i.e. financially) from EU membership. And still screwed up.

[EDIT: No, I wasn't serious about Ireland rejoining the UK - we don't want you, thanks]

Miss Anne Thrope Nov 6th 2012 8:58 pm

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10368668)
Oh no, not again............ the EU 'prevented war'?? Not NATO then??

OK here's the challenge - if there had never been an EU, what war would/might have broken out? And who would have invaded whom? And why? And why would you want to be part of an artificially cobbled together alliance with someone who, had you not allied yourself with them, would have waged war on you?? That makes no sense at all.

Ireland benefitted hugely (i.e. financially) from EU membership. And still screwed up.

I won't bother arguing (again) how many ways you are wrong but I will note on a point of information that the Northwest of England has received substantially more in real terms and per capita in financial transfers from the EU than has Ireland (which made good use of most of what we did get - maximum 0.5% of GDP at its peak - to build infrastructure that enabled much of the 9%+ real annual GDP growth during the 1990s pre-housing boom that has left Irish GDP per capita still well above the EU average - and above the UK - compared to the bottom when we joined).

Anyway, spotted this today:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking37.html

Progress. I suppose.

The Dean Nov 7th 2012 2:47 am

Re: Where can I buy a poppy?
 

Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope (Post 10369445)
I won't bother arguing (again) how many ways you are wrong but I will note on a point of information that the Northwest of England has received substantially more in real terms and per capita in financial transfers from the EU than has Ireland (which made good use of most of what we did get - maximum 0.5% of GDP at its peak - to build infrastructure that enabled much of the 9%+ real annual GDP growth during the 1990s pre-housing boom that has left Irish GDP per capita still well above the EU average - and above the UK - compared to the bottom when we joined).

Anyway, spotted this today:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...reaking37.html

Progress. I suppose.

.... and worthy of a newspaper article all of its own........ progress indeed.

And the war thing? Who would have invaded whom, etc?

[Edit - those comments under that article............... bloody hell - what is wrong with your country??]


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