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admon May 14th 2008 9:25 am

What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 
If you, as a UAE citizen, born and bred as you state, disagreed with the way the country was ran, could you do anything about it? (this is assuming you are not a member of the ruling family of course).

What would happen to you if you publicly and persistently stated your disagreements with what was happening to your country? (As it is against the law here to do so)

What would happen to you if you attempted to raise support for yourself in a bid to rule the country, instead of the ruling family?

ScotsExpat May 14th 2008 9:26 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by admon (Post 6348425)
If you, as a UAE citizen, born and bred as you state, disagreed with the way the country was ran, could you do anything about it? (this is assuming you are not a member of the ruling family of course).

What would happen to you if you publicly and persistently stated your disagreements with what was happening to your country? (As it is against the law here to do so)

What would happen to you if you attempted to raise support for yourself in a bid to rule the country, instead of the ruling family?

Hell, why stop at the UAE? World domination just in time to save us all before the day of reckoning....

shakh your bootie May 14th 2008 10:32 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by admon (Post 6348425)
If you, as a UAE citizen, born and bred as you state, disagreed with the way the country was ran, could you do anything about it? (this is assuming you are not a member of the ruling family of course).

What would happen to you if you publicly and persistently stated your disagreements with what was happening to your country? (As it is against the law here to do so)

What would happen to you if you attempted to raise support for yourself in a bid to rule the country, instead of the ruling family?

TBH, most nationals that I have met are reasonably happy with the way their country is run....

And they can take their grievances to the Majlis - roughly equivalent of going to your MP's surgery, I suppose... Plus the government is making moves to create a national assembly, and to admit more women to cabinet positions.

Let's not stereotype UAE society here.

admon May 14th 2008 10:37 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 
I wasn't stereotyping. I was asking questions..

I am sure that most Emiratis are more than happy with their country, as they should be.

Inselaffen May 14th 2008 10:46 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by admon (Post 6348425)
If you, as a UAE citizen, born and bred as you state, disagreed with the way the country was ran, could you do anything about it? (this is assuming you are not a member of the ruling family of course).

What would happen to you if you publicly and persistently stated your disagreements with what was happening to your country? (As it is against the law here to do so)

What would happen to you if you attempted to raise support for yourself in a bid to rule the country, instead of the ruling family?

maybe he does rule it. Has Big Mo taken an interest in BE.
a few people can expect knocks on the doors! :eek:

weescot May 14th 2008 10:48 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 
SYB is right. Most Emiratees are happy enough with how things are run in the UAE. This form of rule has worked for centuries. The only difference now is that the rulers are Western educated and that there is wealth. So common sense invariably prevails. Majalis are well used here and the UAE society is close knit enough that they have their own radar warning system for their own issues. Singapore is another country that has thrived under a ruler. Whist I don't agree with it personally and many there are quietly unhappy with it, they know the risk to their personal welath and quality of life is too much of a trade off. I suspect it would be the same in the UAE, as well as total respect for the ruling family.

Beard Man May 14th 2008 10:50 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by admon (Post 6348425)
If you, as a UAE citizen, born and bred as you state, disagreed with the way the country was ran, could you do anything about it? (this is assuming you are not a member of the ruling family of course).

What would happen to you if you publicly and persistently stated your disagreements with what was happening to your country? (As it is against the law here to do so)

What would happen to you if you attempted to raise support for yourself in a bid to rule the country, instead of the ruling family?



what will happen to me in that case is that for sure i may be locked a way

but

i will not publicly announce anything that i feel is wrong ... because as far as i believe this is a wrong way of changing things.

if there is something wrong ..and i can approach the ruler to get this wrong thing corrected ... it is what we can an advice .. from someone who care about the ruler and wish for him all the best...

he may/may not agree with my advice.. then i got nothing to do but to wish him good luck.

one last thing..

i will never try to become a ruler.. because first of all ... as a muslim i am not allowed to try to overtake the place of a ruler.

and it is a big responsibility that i am alot happier far away from it.

shakh your bootie May 14th 2008 10:50 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by weescot (Post 6348769)
SYB is right. Most Emiratees are happy enough with how things are run in the UAE. This form of rule has worked for centuries. The only difference now is that the rulers are Western educated and that there is wealth. So common sense invariably prevails. Majalis are well used here and the UAE society is close knit enough that they have their own radar warning system for their own issues. Singapore is another country that has thrived under a ruler. Whist I don't agree with it personally and many there are quietly unhappy with it, they know the risk to their personal welath and quality of life is too much of a trade off. I suspect it would be the same in the UAE, as well as total respect for the ruling family.

LOL - well think about it, if the ideas of self-determination and one-man one-vote were introduced here, then the ruler would be from Kerela.....

admon May 14th 2008 10:54 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 
thanks for your candour Beard Man..

So what do you see as the future for the UAE?

What will happen to the country in 20 years time if the population consists of 20 million expats and 3 million Emiratis?

Beard Man May 14th 2008 10:58 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by admon (Post 6348798)
thanks for your candour Beard Man..

So what do you see as the future for the UAE?

What will happen to the country in 20 years time if the population consists of 20 million expats and 3 million Emiratis?

it is really dangrouse

i can't anticipate the future (only God knows about the future :P)

but i feel it is not going to be good at all to locals and rulers

I feel they are aware of this issue ... and i think they will take actions to correct mistakes whereever they are.. but it will take some time.

one more thing... the need for expats will always be there... and there are expats everywhere in the world...


got to go now :)

home sweet home

wish you a good time all of you

weescot May 14th 2008 11:09 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by Beard Man (Post 6348808)

i can't anticipate the future (only God knows about the future :P)

but i feel it is not going to be good at all to locals and rulers

I feel they are aware of this issue ... and i think they will take actions to correct mistakes whereever they are.. but it will take some time.

one more thing... the need for expats will always be there... and there are expats everywhere in the world...


got to go now :)

home sweet home

wish you a good time all of you

As we are unlikely to get citizenship or permanent residency (a polite courtesy that seems to be extended to many specialised "expats" by UK/US/Canadian immigration), we will all get booted out when the water runs out, the Emiritization programme runs its course and there is no longer a need for our skills. Unless you are a maid or other low paid service sector worker.

shakh your bootie May 14th 2008 11:16 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by weescot (Post 6348840)
As we are unlikely to get citizenship or permanent residency (a polite courtesy that seems to be extended to many specialised "expats" by UK/US/Canadian immigration), we will all get booted out when the water runs out, the Emiritization programme runs its course and there is no longer a need for our skills. Unless you are a maid or other low paid service sector worker.

If that is true then the million-plus resident mega-projects will be ghost towns....

lionheart May 14th 2008 11:21 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by Beard Man (Post 6348775)
i will never try to become a ruler.. because first of all ... as a muslim i am not allowed to try to overtake the place of a ruler.

So does that mean that there can never be a democracy in a Muslim state? No wonder Benazir Bhutto was assassinated.:thumbdown:

weescot May 14th 2008 11:45 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 6348863)
If that is true then the million-plus resident mega-projects will be ghost towns....

the way they are being built, they will be crumbling anyway.... and there will still be expats. Just not a high proportion of highly skilled expats is my hymble crystal ball prediction - as unlike Beadman, I dare to predict.

W10 May 14th 2008 11:49 am

Re: What would happen if Beard Man wanted to rule the UAE?
 

Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 6348884)
So does that mean that there can never be a democracy in a Muslim state? No wonder Benazir Bhutto was assassinated.:thumbdown:

Apart from Turkey you mean?


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