Western Freedom

Thread Tools
 
Old Apr 2nd 2009, 6:32 am
  #16  
Go on.. Pull my finger..
 
TGFKASE's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Location: Dubai
Posts: 5,726
TGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond reputeTGFKASE has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by MacScot
Couldn't find him...but have been told there is someone picking their nose !
If I remember correctly, wheelchair next to Dubya, behind Obama.....
TGFKASE is offline  
Old Apr 2nd 2009, 7:12 pm
  #17  
ex-expat
 
Hello.Kitty's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: in front of my computer - in sunny Sussex!
Posts: 2,162
Hello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

it's not particularly new - my brother was walking home one Friday night in Cardiff and got hauled in front of a CCTV camera by a cop who was trying to confirm the ID of some troublemakers. When the cop was told it wasn't him on the radio, he was sent on his way without so much as a "sorry"...
Hello.Kitty is offline  
Old Apr 2nd 2009, 7:34 pm
  #18  
A bubbly-jock...
 
MacScot's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Teneriffe
Posts: 6,262
MacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty
it's not particularly new - my brother was walking home one Friday night in Cardiff and got hauled in front of a CCTV camera by a cop who was trying to confirm the ID of some troublemakers. When the cop was told it wasn't him on the radio, he was sent on his way without so much as a "sorry"...
Yep...that's face recognition technology for you !
MacScot is offline  
Old Apr 2nd 2009, 7:50 pm
  #19  
**** it we'll do it live
 
shiva's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Dubai
Posts: 7,892
shiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond reputeshiva has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by MacScot
The police now have access to digital 1,474 megapixel cameras (295x more powerful than a standard 5 megapixel camera)...so next time your at a Newcastle United match, be aware !

Here's an example from Ray (a BE poster) on Obama's inauguration...you can zoom in on the crowd and clearly see their faces...quite amazing !

http://gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullsc...648c2b4b06233c

er that pic was actually taken with a canon g10, a 14megapixel camera. 200 odd pics were then digitally melded together. regardless its still a cool pic

re cctv, most cctv footage is excellent these days, however most is still recorded onto video which downgrades the quality so much that is inadmitable in court.
Should you wish to be a pain in the arse to anyone be it shop, council, police etc who takes your picture be it at a demonstration or walking down the street. They are legally obliged under the freedom of information act after payment of a tenner to provide you with all relevant footage of yourself.
This is of course a ****ing nightmare to do as finding you will be hard and then blanking out everyone who isnt you takes time.

under a little publisised act of madness by labour last year effective as oif jan this year, anyone taking photographs in the uk can have theri equipment seized and any pics the cops dont like can be destroyed immediately with absolutely no legal comeback, the hundreds of thousands of amateur and proffesional photographers in the uk are now by defauult and law guilty until proven innocent..........

Now tahts western freedom for you

Last edited by shiva; Apr 2nd 2009 at 7:51 pm. Reason: was going to tidy up some typos but **** it there are too many, bed time for me
shiva is offline  
Old Apr 3rd 2009, 1:56 am
  #20  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Inselaffen's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Dubai
Posts: 13,547
Inselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty
it's not particularly new - my brother was walking home one Friday night in Cardiff and got hauled in front of a CCTV camera by a cop who was trying to confirm the ID of some troublemakers. When the cop was told it wasn't him on the radio, he was sent on his way without so much as a "sorry"...
must have fit the general description of them otherwise he would have been able to tell them to get stuffed. its quite handy having studied PACE
Inselaffen is offline  
Old Apr 3rd 2009, 6:12 am
  #21  
A bubbly-jock...
 
MacScot's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Teneriffe
Posts: 6,262
MacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond reputeMacScot has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by shiva
er that pic was actually taken with a canon g10, a 14megapixel camera. 200 odd pics were then digitally melded together. regardless its still a cool pic
OK...I was taking information from Ray's post at http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=592838
MacScot is offline  
Old Apr 3rd 2009, 8:33 am
  #22  
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Central Java, Indonesia
Posts: 102
fred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nice
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by TGFKASE
Aye, its getting more like '1984' every day......
Between new labour trying to be brother No1 and so on, protester claiming the right to smash up a bank and so many telling us how good drugs are I'm glad i chose to leave these freedoms behind.
fred uk is offline  
Old Apr 3rd 2009, 9:33 am
  #23  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Inselaffen's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Dubai
Posts: 13,547
Inselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by TGFKASE
Aye, its getting more like '1984' every day......
you must have fond memories from then. Being in your twenties!
Inselaffen is offline  
Old Apr 3rd 2009, 11:48 am
  #24  
Hammer for Life
 
BangleMan's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Too far away from Upton Park, for my liking !
Posts: 5,524
BangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond reputeBangleMan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by Inselaffen
you must have fond memories from then. Being in your late twenties!
get it right....
BangleMan is offline  
Old Apr 3rd 2009, 2:26 pm
  #25  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Inselaffen's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Dubai
Posts: 13,547
Inselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond reputeInselaffen has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by BangleMan
get it right....
i was trying to be nice
Inselaffen is offline  
Old Apr 3rd 2009, 5:19 pm
  #26  
ex-expat
 
Hello.Kitty's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: in front of my computer - in sunny Sussex!
Posts: 2,162
Hello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond reputeHello.Kitty has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by shiva
er that pic was actually taken with a canon g10, a 14megapixel camera. 200 odd pics were then digitally melded together. regardless its still a cool pic

re cctv, most cctv footage is excellent these days, however most is still recorded onto video which downgrades the quality so much that is inadmitable in court.
Should you wish to be a pain in the arse to anyone be it shop, council, police etc who takes your picture be it at a demonstration or walking down the street. They are legally obliged under the freedom of information act after payment of a tenner to provide you with all relevant footage of yourself.
This is of course a ****ing nightmare to do as finding you will be hard and then blanking out everyone who isnt you takes time.

under a little publisised act of madness by labour last year effective as oif jan this year, anyone taking photographs in the uk can have theri equipment seized and any pics the cops dont like can be destroyed immediately with absolutely no legal comeback, the hundreds of thousands of amateur and proffesional photographers in the uk are now by defauult and law guilty until proven innocent..........

Now tahts western freedom for you
not sure about that, considering the whole "google streets" business atm... Google are apparently completely legally taking pics, as they are doing so from a public highway - however (after some paranoid people in an expensive suburb of Milton Keynes protested), they are more than willing to remove anyone's house from the picture if requested. They also blank out car number plates and faces.

Police have been able to confiscate film and delete pictures under the Terrorism Act for a good while now... a student friend of mine has his pics wiped 5 or 6 years ago... although he was taking pics of people's reactions to a box placed in the middle of the pavement. Don't ask why. He only just managed not to be arrested.
Hello.Kitty is offline  
Old Apr 4th 2009, 8:18 am
  #27  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 13,553
The Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond reputeThe Dean has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

There is a much wider issue here - sweeping police 'powers' now in place following various EU directives.

Forgive my ongoing Euroscepticism, but the European Arrest Warrant is terrifying in its implications..........

http://www.ukip.org/content/european...o-police-state
The Dean is offline  
Old Apr 5th 2009, 4:47 am
  #28  
MODERATOR
 
Norm_uk's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Dubai
Posts: 6,370
Norm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by Spugsy
let's not forget thaty special branch are always there taking photos and keeping files on people, even the one who go to 'peaceful demonstrations'.
That's called doing their job...the innocent have nothing to fear from having their photo kept at Scotland Yard.

N.
Norm_uk is offline  
Old Apr 5th 2009, 5:40 am
  #29  
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Central Java, Indonesia
Posts: 102
fred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nicefred uk is just really nice
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by Norm_uk
That's called doing their job...the innocent have nothing to fear from having their photo kept at Scotland Yard.

N.
I used to be of that school of thought but then I started thinking.

It's all fine if you have a government that is not paranoid but the UK has at the moment and they are getting worse.

It can now, I'm assured, be deemed illegal under anti terror laws to take a photo of a copper and some poor sod was pulled for taking photos of a train a few weeks ago.
A train spotter for crying out loud.
fred uk is offline  
Old Apr 6th 2009, 6:39 am
  #30  
MODERATOR
 
Norm_uk's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Dubai
Posts: 6,370
Norm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond reputeNorm_uk has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Western Freedom

Originally Posted by fred uk
I used to be of that school of thought but then I started thinking.

It's all fine if you have a government that is not paranoid but the UK has at the moment and they are getting worse.

It can now, I'm assured, be deemed illegal under anti terror laws to take a photo of a copper and some poor sod was pulled for taking photos of a train a few weeks ago.
A train spotter for crying out loud.
Well that's another issue almost in itself.

I don't trust what the UK government is up to...a government should be afraid of it's people not the other way around.

My comments were based on the assumption that the government is fairly reasonable and tempered...

N.
Norm_uk is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.