Well done Farage
May 4th 2013, 7:26 pm
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May 4th 2013, 8:48 pm
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Re: Well done Farage
Why is it " called UKIP" when they have zero presence outside England ?
May 5th 2013, 2:09 am
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May 5th 2013, 2:17 am
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Re: Well done Farage
Just read the latest Private Eye - very good 
"THOSE UKIP POLICIES IN FULL
1. Smoking to be allowed in pubs.
2. Waxed jackets to be made mandatory.
3. Chaps not obliged to help with the washing up.
4. VAT on beards.
5. Massive investment in golf club construction.
6. Driving gloves to be worn in cars at all times.
7. Bring back Robertson's Golly on marmalade jars.
8. Police permitted to give young offenders a clip round the ear.
9. Black and white TV to return.
10. Johnny Foreigner to get marching orders... whoops"
"THOSE UKIP POLICIES IN FULL
1. Smoking to be allowed in pubs.
2. Waxed jackets to be made mandatory.
3. Chaps not obliged to help with the washing up.
4. VAT on beards.
5. Massive investment in golf club construction.
6. Driving gloves to be worn in cars at all times.
7. Bring back Robertson's Golly on marmalade jars.
8. Police permitted to give young offenders a clip round the ear.
9. Black and white TV to return.
10. Johnny Foreigner to get marching orders... whoops"
Does this no play on your conscience? From what I've read about the UKIP they would love to run the place like the way the UAE is run.
May 5th 2013, 5:29 am
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Re: Well done Farage
Just read the latest Private Eye - very good
"THOSE UKIP POLICIES IN FULL
1. Smoking to be allowed in pubs.
2. Waxed jackets to be made mandatory.
3. Chaps not obliged to help with the washing up.
4. VAT on beards.
5. Massive investment in golf club construction.
6. Driving gloves to be worn in cars at all times.
7. Bring back Robertson's Golly on marmalade jars.
8. Police permitted to give young offenders a clip round the ear.
9. Black and white TV to return.
10. Johnny Foreigner to get marching orders... whoops"
"THOSE UKIP POLICIES IN FULL
1. Smoking to be allowed in pubs.
2. Waxed jackets to be made mandatory.
3. Chaps not obliged to help with the washing up.
4. VAT on beards.
5. Massive investment in golf club construction.
6. Driving gloves to be worn in cars at all times.
7. Bring back Robertson's Golly on marmalade jars.
8. Police permitted to give young offenders a clip round the ear.
9. Black and white TV to return.
10. Johnny Foreigner to get marching orders... whoops"
I'm definitely a racist eh...
May 5th 2013, 7:38 am
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May 5th 2013, 7:54 am
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Re: Well done Farage
Still, I've not done my hardened research and reading yet. I think that might be this afternoon.
May 5th 2013, 8:08 am
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Re: Well done Farage
Not my fight but after reading several articles about him, from several British sources, it seems that at least you know where he stands. A far cry from most politicians.
May 5th 2013, 8:34 am
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Re: Well done Farage
There is a serious level of bullshit being spouted in this thread - isn't the sweeping 'racists' label equally misinformed? Who were these so-called racists voting for before UKIP came along?
A protest vote is usually about 2-3 percent, not 25-ish. 2nd place in just about every by-election that comes along......... whatever. A lot of people are reporting that this has a very different feel to it - and why would anyone vote Dim Lib again, after they sold out to the Tories? And why vote Tory, for that matter? (UKIP are where the Tories should be).
I think you lot have got a shock coming............ expect a desperate deal to be offered by Cameron to Farage pre-2015 GE............
A protest vote is usually about 2-3 percent, not 25-ish. 2nd place in just about every by-election that comes along......... whatever. A lot of people are reporting that this has a very different feel to it - and why would anyone vote Dim Lib again, after they sold out to the Tories? And why vote Tory, for that matter? (UKIP are where the Tories should be).
I think you lot have got a shock coming............ expect a desperate deal to be offered by Cameron to Farage pre-2015 GE............
the most worrying stat is that 2/3rds of the electorate couldn't be arsed to vote at all ( including me due to flybe's ineptitude
)
May 5th 2013, 8:44 am
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Re: Well done Farage
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/397...and-we-ll-talk
He is certainly going to change politics for the next year or two........
He is certainly going to change politics for the next year or two........
May 5th 2013, 9:12 am
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Re: Well done Farage
the SDP used to get these votes, the Liberals used to, the Green Party won more than 130 seats in 2011, way more than UKIP did this week , the ridiculous pledges they made re tax, national insurance and defence would cost billions but they would allow smoking in pubs, whoever called them clowns was correct...
the most worrying stat is that 2/3rds of the electorate couldn't be arsed to vote at all ( including me due to flybe's ineptitude )
the most worrying stat is that 2/3rds of the electorate couldn't be arsed to vote at all ( including me due to flybe's ineptitude
)You and others are perfectly entitled to disagree with (or agree with) UKIP on anything, but the question should be, surely, WHY are they gaining popularity? The three 'main' parties (if that is what the Dim Libs ever were
) all offer watered down versions of social democratic consensual fudge - a desperate attempt to show they appeal to everyone when in fact they end up appealing to nobody in particular. One voter interviewed on Sky summed it up: "Good or bad, at least they are definite". Even more interesting was the number who said they will never go back to voting for their previous party because they don't trust them any more.......... those of you who think that people will go back to other parties simply are missing how the mood has changed back home. In just three days last week, I heard people actually talking about party politics in public - unheard of in recent years.
And yes - I am sure there will be plenty of racists who will vote for UKIP, or already have, (they usually vote Labour by the way, not Tory) but there are thousands of ordinary decent moderate people, like my Mum, who have suffered from decades of same-old-same-old and see something new in UKIP.
Their biggest potential weakness is that they are too Nigel-centric and that there aren't many others who can convey the external image of a proper party structure. (Paul Nuttall, Farage's Deputy Leader, is a loud-mouthed Scouser) Farage says he must tackle that - he's probably right.
Dismiss them because you don't agree with their policies? Fair enough (it's called 'democracy'). Dismiss them as a here-today-gone-tomorrow protest party? I suspect you will be proven very wrong indeed.
Let's see.............
May 5th 2013, 4:46 pm
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Re: Well done Farage
One voter interviewed on Sky summed it up: "Good or bad, at least they are definite"
Even more interesting was the number who said they will never go back to voting for their previous party because they don't trust them any more
And yes - I am sure there will be plenty of racists who will vote for UKIP, or already have, (they usually vote Labour by the way, not Tory)
but there are thousands of ordinary decent moderate people, like my Mum, who have suffered from decades of same-old-same-old and see something new in UKIP
Sorry, but as soon as you start using expressions like "decent people" (which is almost as bad as "decent folk") you're clearly in lunatic right-wing Daily Mail territory, where uptight white people romanticise the good old days when you could use words like "wog" and "poof" and nobody batted an eyelid, where it was perfectly acceptable to beat children with sticks, and women knew their place.
May 5th 2013, 4:56 pm
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Re: Well done Farage
Because there are a great many deeply stupid people in the UK who genuinely believe that immigrants and asylum seekers get handed all sorts of benefits the moment they arrive (including a business that is tax-free for seven years, apparently) because they read it on Facebook. They're UKIP's natural constituency.
Jaw-droppingly cretinous statements like that really aren't positive advertising for UKIP, at least among people who know how to think for themselves. Ever read the notorious Daily Mail editorial, "Hurrah for the Blackshirts"? That's coming from pretty much the same angle.
So they prefer to trust a party with absolutely no track record of governance, whose manifesto at the 2010 general election was discovered to contain a £120bn gap between their tax promises and spending promises, and whose leader admitted he hadn't actually read it anyway?
If you're going to pull "facts" out of your arse, at least try and make them *vaguely* plausible
Yes, they see a party that's all about stopping those bloody foreigners coming in. Not that there's anything wrong with them, of course, but - and I'm not being racist here - they're not like us, are they? I've got nothing against them, but I wouldn't have them in the house.
Sorry, but as soon as you start using expressions like "decent people" (which is almost as bad as "decent folk") you're clearly in lunatic right-wing Daily Mail territory, where uptight white people romanticise the good old days when you could use words like "wog" and "poof" and nobody batted an eyelid, where it was perfectly acceptable to beat children with sticks, and women knew their place.
Jaw-droppingly cretinous statements like that really aren't positive advertising for UKIP, at least among people who know how to think for themselves. Ever read the notorious Daily Mail editorial, "Hurrah for the Blackshirts"? That's coming from pretty much the same angle.
So they prefer to trust a party with absolutely no track record of governance, whose manifesto at the 2010 general election was discovered to contain a £120bn gap between their tax promises and spending promises, and whose leader admitted he hadn't actually read it anyway?
If you're going to pull "facts" out of your arse, at least try and make them *vaguely* plausible
Yes, they see a party that's all about stopping those bloody foreigners coming in. Not that there's anything wrong with them, of course, but - and I'm not being racist here - they're not like us, are they? I've got nothing against them, but I wouldn't have them in the house.
Sorry, but as soon as you start using expressions like "decent people" (which is almost as bad as "decent folk") you're clearly in lunatic right-wing Daily Mail territory, where uptight white people romanticise the good old days when you could use words like "wog" and "poof" and nobody batted an eyelid, where it was perfectly acceptable to beat children with sticks, and women knew their place.