Originally Posted by The Dean

OK OK................

I'm starting to see things differently...............

Originally Posted by shiva

good because the republican party of today is one of the most insidious forces in the world let alone america. A political party has been completely hijacked an dis been run and controlled by a minority with a very definite agenda. This minority are willing to lie constantly and repeatedly not just about the opposition but about themselves to their own party members. dissent is not allowed, an alternative viewpoint is not allowed and as long as you scream freedom and socialism often enough and loud enough it looks like its possible to get away with what to me is an obvious sham.

Originally Posted by Scamp

He's not a politician so why expect a normal political speech?

Let the man go nuts. He's a genius.

Originally Posted by The Dean

I know he's a genius............

Anyway, I see that someone who rambles on without any sense of direction or purpose is now known as a CLINT - an easy word to misread, depending on your handwriting.........

Originally Posted by Scamp

Same shit, different toilet.

Originally Posted by The Dean

OK OK................

I'm starting to see things differently............... this is how Ron Paul's supporters are being treated at the Convention:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VJzLJ5-OlWQ

Originally Posted by Beaverstate

To The Dean. Relax, the US will not be much different after the election than before. As always the President proposes, the congress disposes. Meaningful change is nearly impossible I suspect that trillion dollar annual deficits will continue regardless. Our children will pay.

Originally Posted by Scamp

Nobody cares abou that either. They only seem to be bothered about the following:

- Is he religious?
- Will he let gays get married?

Everything else (economy, poverty, foreign policy etc) is just irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Beaverstate

Originally Posted by Scamp

Nobody cares abou that either. They only seem to be bothered about the following:

- Is he religious?
- Will he let gays get married?

Everything else (economy, poverty, foreign policy etc) is just irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Boomhauer

As far as the right wing base is concerned:

- Obama is a crypto Muslim Kenyan
- Obama gona take our guns and replace capitalism with European Socialism
- Obama does not believe in American exceptionalism


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In the grand scheme of things, Obama or Romney make little difference because the people behind the curtain never change.

Originally Posted by The Dean

I don't find Paul Ryan terrifying in the slightest (although I'm somewhat disturbed to learn of the efforts the GOP are going to in order to stop Ron Paul supporters from having their voices heard).

It seems to me that we are living through an era of countries/governments believing it's OK to borrow money they will never - ever - be able to repay, just so they and their people can enjoy a better standard of living now........ like I said, that's immoral. Ryan is prepared to stand up and say no to it, and he deserves credit (Romney isn't on the same planet, intellectually) for that, whatever the outcome. I don't care about the Republican-v-Democrat stuff - all US parties are right of centre by any other standards, so it's mere nomenclature.

It's not just the US though - some of the Eurozone countries are, in effect and in reality, bankrupt. Same reasons, same outcomes. All of us will find that our grandchildren will be immeasurably poorer because our generation greedily paid ourselves more than we could afford, and more than we deserved. Nobody seems to have considered the possibility that our grandchildren might refuse to pay the bill - what then?

Global civil unrest virtually guaranteed.