auzdafluff

That's simply ignoring the main issue Obama has faced. The most obstructionist congress in the history of the United States. From the outset, it stated its mission was to prevent Obama from doing anything that could be perceived as good for the country.

The Dean

So what has he failed to get through that would have been a good policy had it been implemented?

auzdafluff

The simplest one to point out is the jobs act.

But there are a multitude of examples.

The Dean

Doomed to fail. Not thought through and poorly costed. Typical Democrat policy, in fact.

Bob

That's the problem when you don't control the house, the other side veto's everything you try to do, as they stated that their aim was to veto everything to make him look bad.

littlejimmy

Disagreeing for disagreement's sake. It's reminds me of how brothers and sisters can behave to each other when they're kids. So childish.

The Dean

Vetoing the Jobs Act did Obama a favour. You can't spend your way out of a slump.

Bob

Yup, that sums it up....covers healthcare debate, gun control, oh, just about everything over here

Bob

You can. It gets people spending money and earning tax revenue, rather than squirreling away and not improving the economy.

Big businesses certainly didn't invest in the country with their tax breaks, they out sourced, off shored or did other things to cut cost, mostly laying people off and killing their medical insurance benefits, whilst still making sizable profits for shareholders and VP's.

Autonomy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19414600

Two attendees were ejected from Republican National Convention on Tuesday for throwing nuts at a black CNN camerawoman.

The individuals told her "this is how we feed animals" as they threw the nuts

The Dean

It's wrong because it's immoral - you simply pay for economic activity by borrowing money that will inevitably lead to bigger tax bills for your children and grandchildren.

the_red_sheep

Interesting, and I would say entirely misjudged quote from Senator McCain at the Republican convention yesterday: "The demand for our leadership in the world has never been greater," the senator said. "People don't want less of America. They want more."

Also interesting, as mentioned in the article, that Romney's wife has stepped firmly into the public eye of late. Looks, more so than ever, that this will be an American election won on soundbites and PR, rather than policy and leadership.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19417379

auzdafluff

Maybe it wasn't, but it had a damn sight better chance of working than trickle-down economic, which has been proven not to work, and even deepen recessions by increasing the national debt.

At least it was the right approach.

The GOP needs to move away from being the part of big business and become the party of the Middle Class again. Otherwise in 20 years, I honestly think we'll see many of the moderates that are left (and many of those who've been voted out of office by the Teabagger group) join the Libertarians, and that party will grow in popularity.

shiva

@Dean, I'll grant you Obama hasnt been effective and cite a few things,

the obtuse behaviour of the republicans in their obstruction. These idiots are happy to let america and more importantly most americans struggle for 4 years just to ensure the black, kenyan muslim doesnt get in again, obstruction and inaction not being better than a failed attempt but being a guarantee of things not getting better.

they have also been spouting the most outrageous and blatant lies in the media for the past three years also in an attempt to ensure his defeat and obfuscate from their own voters their real aim of protecting the 1% whilst screwing their core vote.

that mitt romney was the best choice of the republican candidates shows just how truly terrifying the republican party has become and just how detached from the voters the candidates are. Also it demonstrates just how easily you can convince voters in america of anything but the truth.

paul ryan, really? the man is terrifying

is obama any use, no not really and i genuinely think he doesnt have more to him than that which is immediately apparent, but a republican win will be a travesty for the american people and it will have been done under the most vile and deliberate of lies.

the above said what really terrifies me is the overall state of american politics, both parties are firmly in the sway of special interests and big business, some of the legislation that has been passed gleely by both sides is an affront to the constitution let alone basic human standards and yet as they have sufficient control of a very tame and dumbed down media as bob says it has all been passed under the guise of anti liberal and communist propaganda.
I used to be fairly skeptical about some so called alternative view points on american politics but am increasingly finding myself on the side of the nut jobs who repeatedly point out a staged take over by some really scary people. Having seen the last 20 years worth of change in the US i cant help but feel these nuggets may actually have a point

Meow

The US political system is madness. No one can get anywhere without millions of dollars behind them and the support of big business. The fact the elections seem to go on for years totally detracts from the job of actually runnibng the country/states. Not to even mention the sickening amounts spent on trying to get elected.

Makes the UK system look like a model of common sense.