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Made in Sheffield 1 Dec 20th 2017 3:59 am

Unpaid Salary
 
If you haven’t been paid for two months, nearly three, what are the realistic chances of getting it resolved if reported to the MOL?

mission Dec 20th 2017 4:57 am

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i don't understand how companies can get away with not paying their employees....of course i realise it happens all the time....but this is just so wrong. I hope you or whoever is in this predicament get their dues.

Made in Sheffield 1 Dec 20th 2017 5:17 am

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Originally Posted by mission (Post 12402585)
i don't understand how companies can get away with not paying their employees....of course i realise it happens all the time....but this is just so wrong. I hope you or whoever is in this predicament get their dues.

Thanks, Mission.

It's bloody frustrating, especially when they told everyone in the Summer they'd be getting a pay cut to ensure that salaries would be paid on time.....

Apparently, they've moved some staff onto Sharjah visas so it looks like they have less than 100 employees in Dubai therefore it won't flag up on the WPS system. The conniving twats.

mission Dec 20th 2017 6:26 am

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Originally Posted by Made in Sheffield 1 (Post 12402591)
Thanks, Mission.

It's bloody frustrating, especially when they told everyone in the Summer they'd be getting a pay cut to ensure that salaries would be paid on time.....

Apparently, they've moved some staff onto Sharjah visas so it looks like they have less than 100 employees in Dubai therefore it won't flag up on the WPS system. The conniving twats.

i wasn't aware the WPS quota was a minimum of 100 employees....we are based in Jafza and as long as 80% of employees (it doesn't matter what the number of employees is) are paid via WPS then we ok....as soon as as that 80% drops we get an instant notification from jafza and we then have to go down and explain what led to the drop - usually its due to someone being paid early because they were going leave and hence paid directly to their bank account.

Millhouse Dec 20th 2017 7:01 am

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Originally Posted by Made in Sheffield 1 (Post 12402571)
If you haven’t been paid for two months, nearly three, what are the realistic chances of getting it resolved if reported to the MOL?

I would consider the following:

1. If you report, expect to be let go after payment
2. Has the company got the money anyway? If not, then chances are low
3. Are they paying suppliers?

Out of interest, what sector is this?

Made in Sheffield 1 Dec 20th 2017 7:12 am

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Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12402612)
I would consider the following:

1. If you report, expect to be let go after payment
2. Has the company got the money anyway? If not, then chances are low
3. Are they paying suppliers?

Out of interest, what sector is this?

1. He's past caring to be honest.
2. Don't think so, their customers aren't paying.
3. Not sure, probably not.

Heat treatment, inspection, mechanical testing, NDT.

Millhouse Dec 20th 2017 8:18 am

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Originally Posted by Made in Sheffield 1 (Post 12402618)
1. He's past caring to be honest.
2. Don't think so, their customers aren't paying.
3. Not sure, probably not.

Heat treatment, inspection, mechanical testing, NDT.

Well, if you don't care about (1) then may as well lodge the case. Personally, I'd talk it through with them first before doing it. They may be happy to pay you out and go to avoid all the drama. That said, doesn't sound like they have any money anyway.

carcajou Dec 20th 2017 8:30 am

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Ugh. What an awful situation.

Sorry and surely you are looking for another job.

I mostly agree with Millhouse. If they had the money, they would be paying out; if you don't care, then file the case.

Maybe go to them first and say you are going to file the case that afternoon but want to talk things through with them first. If you do that though be prepared to be let go on the spot.

Unfortunately one can't get blood from a turnip. If they don't have the cash, you aren't going to get paid. Whatever cash they do have, will go to whom they perceive to be the most important debt holders first - which won't be employees.

The longer it goes on without being paid, the likelihood increases that you get nothing or some kind of partial settlement in lieu of all wages.

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 21st 2017 3:43 am

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A friend of mine did 6 months with a construction firm here unpaid. He eventually got about 5 months worth paid out but he had to leave with a case lodged and evidence and wait.

Sooner you work for an actual company, the sooner you'll be paid. But definitely worth fighting to get what you're owed and demand all of it as the start point, expecting to get lower than that possibly.

If they offered you 80% of what they owe in cash and you leave tomorrow, would you go?

UKCityGent Dec 21st 2017 4:12 am

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What about the indemnity (depending on how long you have been working) ?


I thought that would be more of an issue (luckily we use an external manager that the company pays monthly for our indemnity - so the maximum I can lose is the (x) number of months salary.


Personally I would lodge a case in court and then look for new pastures rather than stay in a quicksand

Irishbeekeeper Dec 21st 2017 6:46 am

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Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 12403266)
rather than stay in a quicksand

DXB baby ;)


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