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Old Jul 3rd 2013, 6:56 am
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Default UK's Channel Four to broadcast Ramadan prayer call

The head of Channel Four's factual programming has explained the decision to broadcast the Muslim call to prayer every morning throughout Ramadan.

Ralph Lee told the Radio Times it would act as a form of provocation aimed at those associating Islam with extremism.

He also suggested that Ramadan was of more interest to viewers than "blanket coverage" of Royal events.

Channel Four will show a series of programmes as part of an examination of Ramadan, which begins next Tuesday.

Writing in the Radio Times, Lee said the broadcaster would become the first mainstream channel to screen the call to prayer every day.

He said he hoped it would make viewers "sit up and notice" that the event is taking place.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23142732


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I saw it on the Daily Mail website yesterday. Jason Manford put the link on Facebook yesterday and some off the comments were hilarious!

People are trying to arrange a boycott of Channel 4 and 4oD.
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But isn't it the first call to prayer at sunrise, when a tiny number of people will be watching Channel 4 anyway? Maybe C4 are trying to stir things up (and succeeding) but the reaction all seems a bit OTT to me?
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Seems all perfectly normal and reasonable in a country transitioning from Christianity to Islam.
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Time to emigrate, eh?

Maybe I should move back to Dubai.


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Seems all perfectly normal and reasonable in a country transitioning from Christianity to Islam.
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Seems all perfectly normal and reasonable in a country transitioning from Christianity to Islam.
The country transitioned from Christianity to a secular society centuries ago. UK law and government is secular and the populace have religious freedom. If we have to put up with several hours of songs of praise on a sunday why not broadcast a call to prayer?

They're not suggesting sharia beheadings in Trafalger Square. Get a grip
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The country transitioned from Christianity to a secular society centuries ago. UK law and government is secular and the populace have religious freedom. If we have to put up with several hours of songs of praise on a sunday why not broadcast a call to prayer?

They're not suggesting sharia beheadings in Trafalger Square. Get a grip
Yes, that's sort of what I meant, secular. I didn't leave centuries ago, though it sometimes feels like it.
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But isn't it the first call to prayer at sunrise, when a tiny number of people will be watching Channel 4 anyway? Maybe C4 are trying to stir things up (and succeeding) but the reaction all seems a bit OTT to me?
Ironically the only people watching Channel 4 at 3am will pissed up having just returned from a night on the lash.
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I do wonder if this is a cynical attempt to ratchet up tensions, or at best an experiment without serious consideration for the consequences (and we can all imagine the pretentious left-wing / liberal rhetorical arguments justifying it).

In principle there should be no valid argument against it: Muslims represent a significant part of present-day UK demographics; the morning call is at a time which is unlikely to disturb the viewing of most non-Muslims; the UK guarantees freedom of religion; many towns and villages have their peace disturbed on a Sunday morning by church bells; Songs of Praise is still going (I think).

In practice it is likely to be latched onto by the anti-Muslim brigade, under all the usual banners (especially the insidious racism perpetrated by the Daily Mail). Those who have taken the decision must, obviously, be aware of the potential adverse impact. And the question has to be asked: will it really make a positive difference to Muslims in UK? Very few people are now without satellite TV, and I imagine there is a plethora of channels where such viewing is available. Its not actually going to add much.

So why do it?
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I do wonder if this is a cynical attempt to ratchet up tensions, or at best an experiment without serious consideration for the consequences (and we can all imagine the pretentious left-wing / liberal rhetorical arguments justifying it).

In principle there should be no valid argument against it: Muslims represent a significant part of present-day UK demographics; the morning call is at a time which is unlikely to disturb the viewing of most non-Muslims; the UK guarantees freedom of religion; many towns and villages have their peace disturbed on a Sunday morning by church bells; Songs of Praise is still going (I think).

In practice it is likely to be latched onto by the anti-Muslim brigade, under all the usual banners (especially the insidious racism perpetrated by the Daily Mail). Those who have taken the decision must, obviously, be aware of the potential adverse impact. And the question has to be asked: will it really make a positive difference to Muslims in UK? Very few people are now without satellite TV, and I imagine there is a plethora of channels where such viewing is available. Its not actually going to add much.

So why do it?
Bang on , the whole thing is just divisive . A load of nonsesne that will be given the required fuel to burn more bullshit .
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I do wonder if this is a cynical attempt to ratchet up tensions, or at best an experiment without serious consideration for the consequences (and we can all imagine the pretentious left-wing / liberal rhetorical arguments justifying it).

In principle there should be no valid argument against it: Muslims represent a significant part of present-day UK demographics; the morning call is at a time which is unlikely to disturb the viewing of most non-Muslims; the UK guarantees freedom of religion; many towns and villages have their peace disturbed on a Sunday morning by church bells; Songs of Praise is still going (I think).

In practice it is likely to be latched onto by the anti-Muslim brigade, under all the usual banners (especially the insidious racism perpetrated by the Daily Mail). Those who have taken the decision must, obviously, be aware of the potential adverse impact. And the question has to be asked: will it really make a positive difference to Muslims in UK? Very few people are now without satellite TV, and I imagine there is a plethora of channels where such viewing is available. Its not actually going to add much.

So why do it?
However, as it'll be on around 3am or so, that means the TV has to be on with the volume turned up and you only wake up when the call comes on?

Doesn't seem very well thought out to me. If someone needs to pray at 3am, surely they'll use an alarm clock.
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I can't see a big issue with them doing that. If you don't want to hear it, don't switch on C4 at 3am. It's not as if it's broadcast across the neighbourhood at 100 decibels five times a day.
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Personally I am not bothered but I am guessing people are worried that this could be first step .... next year all prayers aired?
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I can't see a big issue with them doing that. If you don't want to hear it, don't switch on C4 at 3am. It's not as if it's broadcast across the neighbourhood at 100 decibels five times a day.
I'm totally ambivalent about them doing it--except for the ruckus its going to cause by those looking for any excuse.
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