UAE Debt Collecters

Old Jul 25th 2016, 3:59 pm
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What do you think of this? There are over 100 genuine email addresses addeded below

Subject:: Legal Notice -Emirates NBD Bank, xxx xxx xxx
Importance: High

MR. xxx xxx xxx,

Please note that the next e-mail I will send, I will have all the below e-mail addresses in the CC and I will highlight your criminal cases opened against you in UAE because of the intentionally defaulting on your account and presenting the fraud cheque to Emirates NBD.

In order to avoid the above-written, you are advised to immediately contact the bank and take the settlement within next 24 hours.
Lovely eh?

The guy is out of the UAE, seriously, over 100 email addresses were added at the end of the email.

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Old Jul 25th 2016, 7:04 pm
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So this was sent by someone working for NBD to someone you know saying that he had defaulted?
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Old Jul 26th 2016, 3:39 am
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So this was sent by someone working for NBD to someone you know saying that he had defaulted?
A debt collection agency Trust, now yes, i understand he shouldn't have "Done a runner" however, threatening to get him sacked by emailing all his work mates is a bit unethical don't you think?

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There are so many laws out here against impugning people's reputations, even if it's actually true; would the follow-up email not be illegal if it is sent?
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There are so many laws out here against impugning people's reputations, even if it's actually true; would the follow-up email not be illegal if it is sent?
I would have thought that too! Especially in a justice system where retribution is often looked at more seriously than the original crime (E.g. guy tries to kill you by running you off the road, you call him an idiot or something a tad stronger, you get screwed for threatening behavior).
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See a lawyer in the jurisdiction where you are now. Chances are a lawyer's letter will chase them away
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A bit more on the story.

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A bit more on the story.

Here
Link blocked by Du. Will read later when on a full computer with global access.
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Wow, that's amazing. What's the point in turning down an installment offer when plenty of people wouldn't even make that much of an effort to pay it back?

I found the bit about thinking that someone is on a lot of money in the UK just because they were in the Gulf quite amusing though
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dayummm....didn't realise Emirates NBD were as bad as this....I don't bank with them, but I do have one of their credit cards....this bit from the article is very concerning


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Finally, after their initial harassment attemptsfailed to change the facts of the customer’s financial capabilities, the bank officiallydeclined his good faith offer. They realised it was going to be a"write off" for them if they did refuse the offer and declared thatthey had no intention to use the legal process to try to recover the funds. They declined to pursue the matter through the British Courts (wherehe is residing), presumably, because they do not think it is worth their whileand he has no assets. They didn’t want to let the matter go though. They wanted the customer to suffer, knowing that this would not even benefitthe bank. On instruction of ENDB, Trust DC painstakingly perused thecustomer's employer's website and took the email addresses of around 100 staffmembers. They then threatened that if the customer did not pay within 24hours, they would send a message to his colleagues, advising themof “criminal cases” and “fraud”.'

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Hi everyone.

A lawyer friend who has looked at such cases where the UK/UAE is involved says this:

"I have looked into this matter for a friend as well. The UK courts will not prosecute for Dubai debt as we have bankruptcy laws and the UAE does not. The UK courts have not signed a treaty for UK citizen debts in Dubai to be prosecuted in England. The UAE are pushing for this but it has not happened. This HAS happened between Dubai and India due to massive Indian population in Dubai. Most likely the solicitor will have taken on the debt or agreed a success fee - they will scare the person but ultimately, they cannot do anything as it is a debt that was not contracted in the UK against UK law."

Watch out for one Paul Coleman of law firm Coyle White Devine who is acting for a number of UAE 'creditors'. Basically he is using scare tactics, but he made a bit of a name for himself getting compensation on misselling of interest rate swaps by banks to small businesses, and now he's getting a bit above himself. Google 'coyle white devine uae debt'.
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Hi everyone.

A lawyer friend who has looked at such cases where the UK/UAE is involved says this:

"I have looked into this matter for a friend as well. The UK courts will not prosecute for Dubai debt as we have bankruptcy laws and the UAE does not. The UK courts have not signed a treaty for UK citizen debts in Dubai to be prosecuted in England. The UAE are pushing for this but it has not happened. This HAS happened between Dubai and India due to massive Indian population in Dubai. Most likely the solicitor will have taken on the debt or agreed a success fee - they will scare the person but ultimately, they cannot do anything as it is a debt that was not contracted in the UK against UK law."

Watch out for one Paul Coleman of law firm Coyle White Devine who is acting for a number of UAE 'creditors'. Basically he is using scare tactics, but he made a bit of a name for himself getting compensation on misselling of interest rate swaps by banks to small businesses, and now he's getting a bit above himself. Google 'coyle white devine uae debt'.

Thanks STAT, always good know stuff like this
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