U.K Tram incident
#46
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You know fine well that some people can wind up certain parts of the populace. They're bullies, they pick on weak single women and get them to argue back, the weak single women aren't the brightest buttons in the box, so they rise to the occasion.
(Oh and just before someone shouts, I mean that that type of person was picked on, not that all women are weak and thick).
I wonder how many vids have been made but NOT published on-line.
My opinion for what it's worth, is that some agenda ridden individual or group, are trying to show that racism is really bad in the UK.
It's not, the colour of peoples skins is not the problem, where problems arise is when the people concerned are total tossers, male and female, black/white/yellow/orange/green, it doesn't matter.
Sadly the tosser gene exists in all colours and creeds.
(Oh and just before someone shouts, I mean that that type of person was picked on, not that all women are weak and thick).
I wonder how many vids have been made but NOT published on-line.
My opinion for what it's worth, is that some agenda ridden individual or group, are trying to show that racism is really bad in the UK.
It's not, the colour of peoples skins is not the problem, where problems arise is when the people concerned are total tossers, male and female, black/white/yellow/orange/green, it doesn't matter.
Sadly the tosser gene exists in all colours and creeds.
#47
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... and that's the crux of it. 100 years ago, the poor British would also up sticks and go forge themselves a new life in Australia, Canada or America - no different from us, now (except that we're not poor) or the migrant workers coming into the UK. The big difference is that the ranting white Brits are also rather apathetic and seemingly incapable of taking steps by themselves to better their own lives. The real tragedy is that they pass their apathy on to the next generation and all we'll see is a section of society that is as pitiful as it is angry.
Everyone, always has choices (even if it's a rock and a hard place)...
Everyone, always has choices (even if it's a rock and a hard place)...
Britain is their country, their families have made it what it is today. They should have priority for housing lists, education, training schemes, jobs (especially public sector), and they should be paid a decent wage for a developed country
#48
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As for priority for jobs and whatnot... have you been in the Middle East at all? I'd far prefer jobs to be handed out to the best candidate, rather than based on passport type.
People in the UK don't know how f***ing lucky they are. Yeah sure, there are lots of people on the dole or being helped out by benefits because of a low income, but hey, NEWSFLASH - at least there IS the dole and state help... and people don't have to opt out of going to the Dr because they can't afford it, or be forced to not send their kids to school.
As for what has made Britain "what it is today" - you're right, it is them and their families... we decided to go our and conquer 1/3 of the world and in doing so, opened our horizons to multiculturalism. Go for it - wind back time and imagine how Britain would have been had it not had the colonies to lean on and milk... it wouldn't be a world power, that's for sure, nor would it have the trade power, or the solid infrastructure... but hey, we wouldn't have as many immigrants taking jobs that "real Brits" can't be arsed to get off their sofas for. Swings and roundabouts.
#49
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Why should the poor British up sticks and go forge themselves a new life somewhere else?
Britain is their country, their families have made it what it is today. They should have priority for housing lists, education, training schemes, jobs (especially public sector), and they should be paid a decent wage for a developed country
Britain is their country, their families have made it what it is today. They should have priority for housing lists, education, training schemes, jobs (especially public sector), and they should be paid a decent wage for a developed country
#50
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Why should the poor British up sticks and go forge themselves a new life somewhere else?
Britain is their country, their families have made it what it is today. They should have priority for housing lists, education, training schemes, jobs (especially public sector), and they should be paid a decent wage for a developed country
Britain is their country, their families have made it what it is today. They should have priority for housing lists, education, training schemes, jobs (especially public sector), and they should be paid a decent wage for a developed country
#52
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I think racism is disgusting in any form. I am English and proud to be so but surely those with far right wing sympathies realise in their poorly enunciated 'I'm *****ing British I am' verbal sewage that England is a bastard nation - has been for hundreds of years. Those morons who insist on letting everybody know just how English they are won't have to dig too far back in their genealogical cesspool to realise that they aren't quite as English as they thought.
Whatever your creed or colour, if you are a racist then you are pond life. I am pretty sick of people blaming others for their misfortunes; unemployment benefit should be dished out only when there are NO jobs for that person to do. You want your money? There are jobs and if you deem yourself 'too good' for them (you low-life) then I am afraid the government should withold funds until you get off your super-strength lagered a*se and lift a broom.
Pathetic, apathetic, lazy and an embarrassment to a nation I can still find pride in (just about). Scum is scum and it comes in all colours.
Whatever your creed or colour, if you are a racist then you are pond life. I am pretty sick of people blaming others for their misfortunes; unemployment benefit should be dished out only when there are NO jobs for that person to do. You want your money? There are jobs and if you deem yourself 'too good' for them (you low-life) then I am afraid the government should withold funds until you get off your super-strength lagered a*se and lift a broom.
Pathetic, apathetic, lazy and an embarrassment to a nation I can still find pride in (just about). Scum is scum and it comes in all colours.
#53
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I'm hardly surprised by this, although I find England alot less racist than elsewhere in Europe. 'Integration' takes generations. So what if your skin is not that of the 'local' ethnicity? So many 'asians' and 'jamaicans' in the UK that have probably never been to the places that this woman and others say they should go back to. And the whole point of the EU was amongst other things, to have the ability to work anywhere within the union without problems. Perhaps it's a problem legislating this as it wasn't much difficult before, and people have always moved to where jobs and money are. Let's not get started on the NHS and its disastrous effects taking qualified personnel from around the globe to treat us for our ailments..
Oh..and for those blaming labour..Look at what the Conservatives are saying these days...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...y-6271541.html
But for people to be living as foreigners and complain about foreigners in their own country..? I'd expect you to be on your first flight home to take back your well deserved UK jobs. Or should the UK gov't perhaps consider you nation traitors... Jumped ship for opportunities elsewhere. Only there for the good times? Give me a break..
There is a reason people wish to move to Europe and the US/Canada. Sure, it doesn't come without problems and as others have pointed out, the downturn in the economy will only be fuel for these sorts of racist banal attitudes. But c'mon..racism? It's hardly a factor..people don't behave the way they do because the colour of their skin, but due to their cultural upbringing.
Oh..and for those blaming labour..Look at what the Conservatives are saying these days...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...y-6271541.html
But for people to be living as foreigners and complain about foreigners in their own country..? I'd expect you to be on your first flight home to take back your well deserved UK jobs. Or should the UK gov't perhaps consider you nation traitors... Jumped ship for opportunities elsewhere. Only there for the good times? Give me a break..
There is a reason people wish to move to Europe and the US/Canada. Sure, it doesn't come without problems and as others have pointed out, the downturn in the economy will only be fuel for these sorts of racist banal attitudes. But c'mon..racism? It's hardly a factor..people don't behave the way they do because the colour of their skin, but due to their cultural upbringing.
#54
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"But c'mon..racism? It's hardly a factor..people don't behave the way they do because the colour of their skin, but due to their cultural upbringing."
They behave the way they do because their parents are very likely to have behaved in that way too... So agreed. I have absolutely no tolerance for ignorance, regardless what side of the fence it comes from.
They behave the way they do because their parents are very likely to have behaved in that way too... So agreed. I have absolutely no tolerance for ignorance, regardless what side of the fence it comes from.
#55
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"But c'mon..racism? It's hardly a factor..people don't behave the way they do because the colour of their skin, but due to their cultural upbringing."
They behave the way they do because their parents are very likely to have behaved in that way too... So agreed. I have absolutely no tolerance for ignorance, regardless what side of the fence it comes from.
They behave the way they do because their parents are very likely to have behaved in that way too... So agreed. I have absolutely no tolerance for ignorance, regardless what side of the fence it comes from.
#56
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Exactly which is my point..it will take generations..not overnight. Take one look around you in sunny Dubai and look at the 'well integrated' Brits..Then go back to the UK and check out the 2nd or 3rd generation asians and jamaicans then tell me you see no difference..
Whether you are black, white, whatever I couldn't care less (because I am educated, have multi-cultural friends and my parents aren't amoeba-brained racists) but if you don't contribute to the growth and prosperity of that nation then you have no business complaining or being there. A parasite is a parasite. I see thousands of these 'British' parasites every time I visit home and it saddens me. I'll be back there next year for good and I'm going to spend my time looking out for myself - not bitchiing and moaning that somebody else has taken 'my job' - a job, frankly that this woman and others with similar political leanings have no aspirations or ability to perform. It's all rather pathetic.
#57
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Why should the poor British up sticks and go forge themselves a new life somewhere else?
Britain is their country, their families have made it what it is today. They should have priority for housing lists, education, training schemes, jobs (especially public sector), and they should be paid a decent wage for a developed country
Britain is their country, their families have made it what it is today. They should have priority for housing lists, education, training schemes, jobs (especially public sector), and they should be paid a decent wage for a developed country
#59
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"..Her language and attitude suggest to me someone with severe psychiatric problems.." - I thought a fruitcake would be more apt !
#60
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going by that, britain belongs more to those from the west indies who were enslaved on plantations in all but name, and indians who were a forced captive market for british goods from textiles to food.