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Old May 9th 2018, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
Semantics, perhaps, but are those divorces due to infidelity or is the infidelity a symptom of the marriage already having broken down?
I believe it's usually the latter - at least in one persons perception of it. Wouldn't change the numbers though really would it?
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH View Post
Going back to an earlier post, I commented that based on personal experience with coworkers it'd seem that the infidelity rate was .01%. Of course that was a bit of humour but I also acknowledged that the reality was likely higher. I don't trust my perception to be reflective of the actual truth. I find it intriguing that the three proponents of a high infidelity rate are stubborn in insisting that their perception is accurate when they really don't have anything beyond anecdotal perceptions to back it up. Let's consider their contexts, shall we?

A: Expat investment banker (with all the models and bottles implications that comes with the world of investment banking) and who's lived in the UAE for a decade and is already on marriage #2 and has alluded to being the child of a broken home too.

B. Hard partying and hard drinking engineer who's been a bachelor expat in the UAE for the past 10 years too and seems to jet off on massive stag dos monthly. And was also a club manager in his early life.

C. Construction project manager who bounces from high risk shithole to high risk shithole across the world and a bachelor expat the entire time.

Do you not think that perhaps these three life circumstances would easily distort the perceptions of life realities, including infidelities? Just something to consider.
Yes I do agree it would distort perceptions. However despite whatever subjective opinions I have, I do also have some capability to be objective and that's why I'm arguing against the low poll results. The truth lies somewhere in between. Here's a link to a random google poll search https://www.statisticbrain.com/infidelity-statistics/

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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH View Post
Look at the poll at the top of this thread, Millhouse. Of course it's too small and unscientific a sample size but I still find it telling that 0 people voted for 1 extra-marital affairs, while one voted for 2, and five (!) voted for 3+.

Would that not suggest there's a small but sizeable enough minority who are responsible for most of the infidelities? The divorce rates you referred to surely must include people already on their second and even third marriages and those marriages breaking up for the too common reason of infidelity? That surely distorts the overall figures. Just a thought.
I think the fact there are no "ones" then the old adage, "Once a cheater always a cheater" comes to mind.

And as an old poster on here told me a lot of years ago >10, married women here are the easiest as their husbands are/were always away and it's easy for them not to get caught.
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It's "CHEAT", not ****ing "CHEATERS".
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So what does a massage room happy ending constitute then?
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It's "CHEAT", not ****ing "CHEATERS".
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
It's "CHEAT", not ****ing "CHEATERS".

But if a Leopard doesn't change it's spots, then surely a Cheater doesn't either?

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So what does a massage room happy ending constitute then?
By the by I draw your attention to the signature line below

Thats surely just how a massage should be done?
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Old May 9th 2018, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by weasel decentral View Post
Yes I do agree it would distort perceptions. However despite whatever subjective opinions I have, I do also have some capability to be objective and that's why I'm arguing against the low poll results. The truth lies somewhere in between. Here's a link to a random google poll search https://www.statisticbrain.com/infidelity-statistics/
It would distort perceptions for sure - although in my case, my close friends are all very diverse - a fireman, builders, a mid-level manager, an engineer, a postman etc. Lack of access to models, bubbles and blowjobs for sure... (just like me, god knows what 90s wall-street perception DXB has of my industry - there's just as many spreadsheet nerds in banking as in engineering)

Taking the perception issue the other way, a socially awkward homosexual living in an environment that suppresses them and without the necessary fag-hag friends is hardly going to be that plugged into the gossip machine. I honestly doubt any of these surveys are that reliable given the propensity to lie and avoid judgement in these matters. Only today, in the breakout room I heard the assistants gossiping about someone in the office...
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No. After mayhem last week it's all gone a bit quiet. No-one to argue with.
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Originally Posted by weasel decentral View Post
Yes I do agree it would distort perceptions. However despite whatever subjective opinions I have, I do also have some capability to be objective and that's why I'm arguing against the low poll results. The truth lies somewhere in between. Here's a link to a random google poll search https://www.statisticbrain.com/infidelity-statistics/
It's a fairly interesting set of polling results. Even somewhat contradictory without delving more into the matter:

Percent of marriages where one or both spouses admit to infidelity, either physical or emotional 41 %
Percent of married men who have strayed at least once during their married lives 22 %
Percent of married women who have strayed at least once during their married lives 14 %

Obviously there's a discrepancy going on here. Part of it likely has to do with that the very first poll refers to both physical and emotional infidelity. That's a pretty broad parameter to use, because what exactly is emotional infidelity? Falling in love and feeling a strong attachment to someone else? But if you never act on it, you're still technically faithful?

That the percentages of *married* people who have strayed (which I take to mean actual physical infidelity, as is the common understanding) is much lower and close enough to the YouGov poll suggests YouGov is closer to the truth when asking about extra-marital affairs.

Maybe the differing opinions has more to do with how we define extra-marital relationships. Many of the respondents to the polls could be basing their response solely on whether married or not, and not on girlfriends/boyfriends.

I would agree with you and Millhouse that if we consider all relationships, married, partners, boyfriends/girlfriends, then the infidelity rate is higher than 50%. No questions about that. If we narrow it solely to marrieds, then 20%-25% may be more realistic.
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Taking the perception issue the other way, a socially awkward homosexual living in an environment that suppresses them and without the necessary fag-hag friends is hardly going to be that plugged into the gossip machine....
Hmm....
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH View Post
Obviously there's a discrepancy going on here. Part of it likely has to do with that the very first poll refers to both physical and emotional infidelity. That's a pretty broad parameter to use, because what exactly is emotional infidelity? Falling in love and feeling a strong attachment to someone else? But if you never act on it, you're still technically faithful?
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That's why I asked what's the definition... arguably emotional affairs are much more destructive to a relationship than a simple physical one. Everyone assumes the opposite is worse. Much worse to be with someone who has completely checked out.
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No. After mayhem last week it's all gone a bit quiet. No-one to argue with.
Well my boss got sideways canned today, in a sort of reasonably well telegraphed move from our corporate overlords. So this week and next week the rumour mill will be alive and well, plus I'm expecting a witch hunt through the circle of 'friends' built up in the operation. Also my developer client is teetering on the edge of bust and probably will fall over soon.
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Originally Posted by britexpat76 View Post
Thats surely just how a massage should be done?


men will always be men aka wankers
well most of them anyway, its just a fact of life honestly
I have a very large and diverse friends' base so my opinion has got some knowledge / experience behind it and I am with Millhouse on this one, polls / surveys mean **** all! Most men think of themselves as God's gift to women (or men based on their orientation) and would flirt shamelessly left right and center if given half a chance. So is that cheating then? Flirting? How about a wank in the shower? Or watching porn for that matter? Based on the above discussed comments that 'should' qualify as cheating as well right?

Each person (man) has got their own boundaries set inside their head as to what constitutes a moral red line that He wont cross in regards to fidelity to His partner. Some men wont even have that red line and would still consider it perfectly alright to 'Swing' and still remain happily married. I know many.

I should also like to add that most men I know who went uber-religious (Muslim, Christianity, Hinduism) went straight as a fiddle after they embraced their religion......and for most of them....that point came juuuuuuuust about when they were reaching their 40s with a couple of kids out so I guess Libido plays a part as well doesnt it?
Anyway, rant over...carry on!
Oh and I have NO idea about women! Out of all my female friends there is only 1 person who I know of who might have cheated. Women in my opinion are much much more morally superior to us baboons.
Again all of the above is my opinion only.
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