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Old Aug 19th 2019, 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by co durham boy View Post
One major Chinese contractor has 112 Major construction projects on going here in the UAE . You cannot compete full stop .
And they're aiming to compete each one to the lowest quality imaginable.....
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And they're aiming to compete each one to the lowest quality imaginable.....
You never said anything about wanting doors in the apartments.
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And they're aiming to compete each one to the lowest quality imaginable.....
Every supplier connected to the main contractor will be driven to the floor . Also they'll finance the job and it wont hurt them if they get payed late , hence the supplier gets payed late . Plus they don't use the local market enough .

Local contractors are burning cash trying to compete with these guys . Some of the quality iv seen is absolutely dog shit .
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You never said anything about wanting doors in the apartments.
... or kitchens - you know, with hobs and ovens
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I don't know all of the details, but the Chinese built a big road somewhere and on the back of that brought in their own materials and labour. Within the materials were lots of products which ended up being sold in the local markets putting the Kenyan traders out of business. If you go on safari you will find that almost half of the tour guides are Chinese putting the indigenous guys out of work.

I don't think that the Kenyan government could stop them as they were so indebted to the Chinese for the infrastructure. I think this is also happening in other parts of Africa.
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... or kitchens - you know, with hobs and ovens
I don't know what you're talking about, we said we'd build a tower block with apartments. If you want hobs and ovens and doors and rooms you pay more.
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I don't know what you're talking about, we said we'd build a tower block with apartments. If you want hobs and ovens and doors and rooms you pay more.
Maybe apartments like these?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gal-units.html
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I don't know all of the details, but the Chinese built a big road somewhere and on the back of that brought in their own materials and labour. Within the materials were lots of products which ended up being sold in the local markets putting the Kenyan traders out of business. If you go on safari you will find that almost half of the tour guides are Chinese putting the indigenous guys out of work.

I don't think that the Kenyan government could stop them as they were so indebted to the Chinese for the infrastructure. I think this is also happening in other parts of Africa.
The Chinese are building infrastructure all over Africa on this template , better still with mineral rights and access to ports . There's just a softer approach here but it's basically they'll finance it , that finance shall we call it takes many forms as in delayed or deferred payments , visa allocations , exemptions of certain areas of specification .

Basically it trashes the market and sucks the life out of the host .
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The Chinese are building infrastructure all over Africa on this template , better still with mineral rights and access to ports . There's just a softer approach here but it's basically they'll finance it , that finance shall we call it as in delayed or deferred payments , visa allocations , exemptions of certain areas of specification .

Basically it trashes the market and sucks the life out of the host .
try and download this documentary. Brilliant summary:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ykxg9

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Same thing happening here in Muscat. “China Malls” popping up everywhere full of rip-off tat, and their rudeness is, quite simply, mind-boggling.
They've taken over Cambodia already. Sihanoukville which was a quiet beach resort is completely unrecognisable now. And it's all happened so quickly.
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They've taken over Cambodia already. Sihanoukville which was a quiet beach resort is completely unrecognisable now. And it's all happened so quickly.
yeh. I saw this in a documentary the other day. Don’t open Casino near China!
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try and download this documentary. Brilliant summary:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ykxg9

Thanks for sharing. I saw this referenced somewhere a long while back and couldn't remember where to go back and watch.
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Thanks all for the info, also explains why they're so keen to fund UK power plants.
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You never said anything about wanting doors in the apartments.
Doors are over rated. I generally like a view when taking a dump!

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Every supplier connected to the main contractor will be driven to the floor . Also they'll finance the job and it wont hurt them if they get payed late , hence the supplier gets payed late . Plus they don't use the local market enough .
Local contractors are burning cash trying to compete with these guys . Some of the quality iv seen is absolutely dog shit .
100%. Same has happened on a big (secret....ish) project on the east coast. The way they do business is shocking.

And dog shit would be a compliment.

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They've taken over Cambodia already. Sihanoukville which was a quiet beach resort is completely unrecognisable now. And it's all happened so quickly.
Really? Haven't been to Snooky in a while. I did hear the beachfront has been developed quite a bit. Apparently Koh Rong is the place to go now.
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Doors are over rated. I generally like a view when taking a dump!



100%. Same has happened on a big (secret....ish) project on the east coast. The way they do business is shocking.

And dog shit would be a compliment.



Really? Haven't been to Snooky in a while. I did hear the beachfront has been developed quite a bit. Apparently Koh Rong is the place to go now.
Admittedly it's been ten years or so since I was last there, but by all accounts it's unrecognisable. Westerners have all but given up going there, and moved along to Kampot which is going the same way .

Hotels and casinos only catering to Chinese, Chinese signage everywhere, locals priced out of the local property market etc etc.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/ch...05-p52e44.html

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...-sihanoukville
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