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Old Dec 4th 2012, 7:04 pm
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mmmm......

so it appears that the big Tamweel fire was caused by a cigarette butt discarded from above and started at the bottom of the tower,despite the fact that the bottom of the tower was not on fire?? mmmm...well the according to the national....

and they quote...Many tenants kept ashtrays and cigarettes on their balconies. “Surely, someone must have just thrown a cigarette butt,” he said. “There are many people who are negligent. They are just not aware of the repercussions.”

Fire alarms? Check.
Sprinklers? Check.
blame anyone but the owners, Check.
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Originally Posted by flood2 View Post
mmmm......

so it appears that the big Tamweel fire was caused by a cigarette butt discarded from above and started at the bottom of the tower,despite the fact that the bottom of the tower was not on fire?? mmmm...well the according to the national....

and they quote...Many tenants kept ashtrays and cigarettes on their balconies. “Surely, someone must have just thrown a cigarette butt,” he said. “There are many people who are negligent. They are just not aware of the repercussions.”

Fire alarms? Check.
Sprinklers? Check.
blame anyone but the owners, Check.
I think that we could all have predicted the outcome of this one! Rubbish left by Labourers and a Cigarette End 'in an outdoor passageway at the base of the building?' - It does not really explain why the top of the building was totally gutted, in such a short space of time! - Or did the 'Labourers' receive help from the 'Night Fairies?'

Evidently there have been a few all night 'Blamestorming Sessions' at the Majlis! My money is still on the Insurers not paying out. They will also be conducting their own investigation. Civil Defence has also to report. The aftermath of the fire also revealed deficiencies in Design, Construction, and Facilities Management.

On a similar note, The National is carrying another article related to the degradation of concrete structures; where projects have been stalled or suspended. I am aware of two structures that have already been condemned, and insurance cover removed. This is another 'Time Bomb' which is ticking away!

http://www.thenational.ae/business/p...ng-environment
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Default Re: Tamweel Tower fire started by cigarette butt.......

Originally Posted by flood2 View Post
mmmm......

so it appears that the big Tamweel fire was caused by a cigarette butt discarded from above and started at the bottom of the tower,despite the fact that the bottom of the tower was not on fire?? mmmm...well the according to the national....

and they quote...Many tenants kept ashtrays and cigarettes on their balconies. “Surely, someone must have just thrown a cigarette butt,” he said. “There are many people who are negligent. They are just not aware of the repercussions.”

Fire alarms? Check.
Sprinklers? Check.
blame anyone but the owners, Check.
"Surely" "someone must have" ???
Either they know it is the case or they don't, the above quotes sound like guessing/passing the buck/finding an excuse.
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Default Re: Tamweel Tower fire started by cigarette butt.......

Originally Posted by jackthehat View Post

On a similar note, The National is carrying another article related to the degradation of concrete structures; where projects have been stalled or suspended. I am aware of two structures that have already been condemned, and insurance cover removed. This is another 'Time Bomb' which is ticking away!

http://www.thenational.ae/business/p...ng-environment
Thats not a problem... Cover the damage up with flammable cladding. It'll soon be sorted....
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Already posted elsewhere. http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...1#post10415501 As the wall cladding was only damaged from about the 15th floor upwards, I cannot agree with the Police Report conclusion.
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Originally Posted by jackthehat View Post
My money is still on the Insurers not paying out.
I think that we can see where this one is going?

The National
Tamweel blaze cause could leave residents without compensation

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...t-compensation

The result of a police investigation, announced on Tuesday, could absolve the building’s developer Tamweel of any blame for the fire.

If the liability can be proven, they [the building owner] can in theory be sued for the contents of that place,” said Surendra Nayar, chairman of the owners association board.

“In the case of Tamweel, it’s not their fault that someone threw a cigarette, so they can’t really be held liable for that.”
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