Syria or not?

Old Apr 10th 2018, 12:46 pm
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Old Apr 11th 2018, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
Lots of talk in the papers these days about another Syrian intervention.

Your thoughts?

My instincts say hell no.

I'm not unsympathetic but it's a quagmire and what exactly do we do with the intervention? Drop a bunch of bombs and then what?
In all countries where "we" got rid of elected despotic governments it is now a mess. Syria would just become another country with umpteenth chiefs trying to grab power plus more migrants heading for Europe.
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US mid terms are coming up. Historically, the popularity of the leader of a country 'at war' skyrockets.

If that pus filled arsehole Trump can swing it, he will.
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Old Apr 11th 2018, 4:37 am
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But a thermonuclear war would take the electorate's attention away from the chaos of Brexit.
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chaos of Brexit.
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Originally Posted by Thairetired2016
In all countries where "we" got rid of elected despotic governments it is now a mess. Syria would just become another country with umpteenth chiefs trying to grab power plus more migrants heading for Europe.
So thats a good thing right? If they're heading for Europe, they won't be heading to the UK #brexitjustgetonwithit
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Old Apr 11th 2018, 11:03 am
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Americans will be shooting missiles at syria, the russians will be shooting missiles at the americans. Whats not to love? Now, which arms makers do i need to invest in? Rockwell Nobel and koncern kalashnikov for sure, boeing?
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Originally Posted by weasel decentral
Some realpolitik is required similar to Egypt, do some bad such as propping him up in order to do a greater good. Or in Assad's case a lesser evil.

The alternative to Assad in Syria is endless stone age tribal/sectarian warfare.
Doesn’t look like our version of world order is going to happen.
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They lied about Iraq. They lied about Libya. They lied about Syria.
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Old Apr 12th 2018, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
Doesn’t look like our version of world order is going to happen.
It's one of the too common instances where the layman on the street is more astute about the realities of the situation than the political masters.

Politics often isolates leaders from the genuine truth. I wouldn't call it corruption but that when you're in a position to actually have meaningful impact (ring up the army and say yo, drop dem bombs) it's hard to resist reacting to a genuine crisis because it's the morally right thing to do. And it's compounded by seeing your allies taking a proactive move towards military action and you start to think you're in the moral wrong for staying away from the crisis. After all, in this instance, Assad is a nightmare, Syria is a nightmare, millions of people have been badly affected. It is a very cold decision to do nothing about other people's suffering.

Morals and politics. Often a bad mixture. The layman on the street, free from the pressures of being a western political leader, is free to continue to be pragmatic, even if it means being selfish and indifferent.
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