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Millhouse Apr 26th 2013 3:25 pm

Syria - chemical weapons
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22305444

While I do not doubt that this is possible, a part of me can't help remembering the WMD claim on Iraq and the blood on Bliar's hands over Dr. Kelly.

Another Western intervention into a Middle Eastern war looms, I think...

OleJanx Apr 26th 2013 3:30 pm

Re: Syria - chemical weapons
 

Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 10679759)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22305444

While, I do not doubt that this is possible. A part of me can't help remembering the WMD claim on Iraq and the blood on Bliar's hands over Dr. Kelly.

Another Western intervention into a Middle Eastern war looms, I think...

Unfortunately, your predictions could all too likely become reality, which is both frightening and saddening.

I hope you're wrong, but....

UKCityGent Apr 26th 2013 3:52 pm

Re: Syria - chemical weapons
 
There wont be any western intervention in Syria due to the alleged use of chemical weapons. This claim has been raised by Israel a little while ago. However there was a lack of evidence - most chemical weapons kill within a short space of time - you usually would not have managed to get pics of someone suffering in hospital and taken pics as evidence on the field would be more obvious. Possibly Israel is more concerned with defending another border.

Boomhauer Apr 26th 2013 4:01 pm

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Recently Israel was saying that if they have intelligence that Assad's chemical weapons will fall into the wrong hands (eg: AQ & Hez) , they will take action. So does this mean then that it Assad's hands are not considered "wrong hands".

This all seems like a convenient excuse for the West,Turkey and Gulfies to enter the fray and install a Sunni regime . Could be a flase flag; i.e. Mossad and or Rebels introduce a substance to a limited area that causes people to exhibit signs claimed to be from chemical weapons.

Could also be true. Assad maybee on the ropes so has to resort to more deadly weapons. It is surreal how the Western powers warn him they will intervene if he uses chemical weapons but the reason he may use them is because Western powers are supporting the rebels.

OriginalSunshine Apr 26th 2013 4:04 pm

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Israel won't do anything.
"The West" won't do anything.

Both will sit back and watch and wait for Syria to burn itself out. Particularly as it gives very useful information as to who is coming in from abroad to "freedom" fight.

Millhouse Apr 26th 2013 4:25 pm

Re: Syria - chemical weapons
 

Originally Posted by OriginalSunshine (Post 10679833)
Israel won't do anything.
"The West" won't do anything.

Both will sit back and watch and wait for Syria to burn itself out. Particularly as it gives very useful information as to who is coming in from abroad to "freedom" fight.

That wouldn't be such a bad scenario.

shiva Apr 26th 2013 4:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 10679854)
That wouldn't be such a bad scenario.

It's the one they are now tired of playing out. I watched McCain and a few senators raving on tv last night. Pretty sure the US will interven soon

UKCityGent Apr 26th 2013 4:35 pm

Re: Syria - chemical weapons
 

Originally Posted by OriginalSunshine (Post 10679833)
Israel won't do anything.
"The West" won't do anything.

Both will sit back and watch and wait for Syria to burn itself out. Particularly as it gives very useful information as to who is coming in from abroad to "freedom" fight.


Israel is feeling the pressure - they are buggered if Assad goes down as the rebels may turn the weapons onto them, which means them defending another border. They are also concerned with Lebanon and border skirmishes. Their best bet is that Assad quashes the rebels - however he is on a losing wicket, or to "persuade" the US to intervene.

The pressure is on Assad to end this - the West wont get involved as there is no profit.

Boomhauer Apr 26th 2013 5:06 pm

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Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 10679867)
Israel is feeling the pressure - they are buggered if Assad goes down as the rebels may turn the weapons onto them, which means them defending another border. They are also concerned with Lebanon and border skirmishes. Their best bet is that Assad quashes the rebels - however he is on a losing wicket, or to "persuade" the US to intervene.

The pressure is on Assad to end this - the West wont get involved as there is no profit.

2 Lebanese Sunni Sheiks have formed groups and are publickly urging Sunni Lebanese to sign up, to go fight Assad.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...Hezbollah.html

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...Hezbollah.html

scot47 Apr 26th 2013 5:09 pm

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The loonies will take over. Did anyone really believe all this BS about "The Arab Spring" ? Bearded Jihadists from all corners of the Globe have been heading there for months. aided by the West and Allies.

Millhouse Apr 26th 2013 5:22 pm

Re: Syria - chemical weapons
 
Let's be clear - our strategy will be no different to what we have always done. We will support the installation of a new regime who will suck up to us for a while and keep a lid on the place by whatever means. After about 30 years the new regime will no doubt go nuts and we'll have to repeat it all over again.

Nothing will change - it's just someone else's turn to have a go in the driver's seat.

scot47 Apr 26th 2013 9:16 pm

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No. London's policy will be to do what Uncle Sam says. UK foreign policy and war aims have been dictated by Washington since 1941. (Or earlier ?)

OleJanx Apr 26th 2013 9:25 pm

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Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 10680184)
No. London's policy will be to do what Uncle Sam says. UK foreign policy and war aims have been dictated by Washington since 1941. (Or earlier ?)

Ever since the Lusitania was torpedoed. God only knows how we didn't get involved in Vietnam. Must have been a clerical error....

scot47 Apr 26th 2013 9:34 pm

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Harold Wilson had the guts to say "NO" to LBJ.

britexpat76 Apr 26th 2013 10:12 pm

Re: Syria - chemical weapons
 

Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 10679812)
There wont be any western intervention in Syria due to the alleged use of chemical weapons. This claim has been raised by Israel a little while ago. However there was a lack of evidence - most chemical weapons kill within a short space of time - you usually would not have managed to get pics of someone suffering in hospital and taken pics as evidence on the field would be more obvious. Possibly Israel is more concerned with defending another border.

Obama said if chemical weapons were used they would face the consequences...... Apparently the use of sarin gas has been confirmed by reporters and intelligence agencies........ This will turn nasty.


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