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Beakersful Jan 12th 2013 12:26 pm

SWP to unravel as 'cult' of personality exposed in complaints hearing?
 
Coming right on the tail end of the Saville debacle, the Socialist Workers Party (damn commies!) are in the opening throws of meltdown. It might be interesting to note the Independent referred to their internal complaints/disciplinary panels (where the SWP tell their members the police and courts aren't for them as historically biaised against them) has been semantically associated with Islamic Sharia courts.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-8448429.html

http://www.socialistunity.com/swp-co...mittee-report/ Transcript of the complaints hearing.

http://www.cpgb.org.uk/home/weekly-w...i-am-resigning SWP journo resigns over it

http://www.2ndcouncilhouse.co.uk/blo...-and-the-left/ Left (but not extreme Left) have their say

http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-p...-us-about-left She who raged through the student protests and Occupy gets in on it

Miss Anne Thrope Jan 12th 2013 1:00 pm

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The Stalinist practices of the SWP, in particular to stifle all the credible claims of sexual harassment and worse against their leader, have been well known and covered in the likes of the Guardian for almost 10 years now. I guess the Saville thing has reignited it. SWP and "Respect" are mainly the same thing anyway so Sharia seems appropriate.

Beakersful Jan 12th 2013 1:06 pm

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WRP dissolved out of the same subject I believe. I've seen another woman just resign from the SWP saying as a result of transcripts she's found out an ex-partner who abused her (unsure if sexually or violently) has been let back into the SWP after a 6 month 'sentence'.

Other female activists are attacking other parties that are trying to distance themselves from the SWP, stating that the mysogeny amongst the left is threaded throughout them all.

At this point, those of us who hold equality and fairness within our minds within our society but weren't members of these organisations due to their practises and ideology are now sat waiting for them all to turn on each other, or hopefully, the police go in and do what is necessary. But without official victim complaints they will not act. And the victims have been talked out of police complaints it appears by the senior members of the cult of personality.

scot47 Jan 12th 2013 1:37 pm

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It all started to unravel when Ygael Gluckstein aka Tony Cliff went to the Great Central Committee in the Sky.

mentalist Jan 13th 2013 3:58 am

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I was expecting an article about Sean Wright Phillips.

LaLaLayla Jan 13th 2013 5:30 am

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As an ex-SWP member, I am shocked at this case. I am particularly shocked that people like Alex Callinicos allowed it to happen. But I do feel that the party has been doomed for some time. The world has changed and the SWP failed to address that change.

Beakersful Feb 4th 2013 12:24 pm

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Apparently local groups have been voting to hold an emergency conference to discuss the situation. I haven't heard if the votes have been counted up yet or the results of such, but I'm more surprised 'Comrade Delta' hasn't been suspended until the outcome of the conference meet considering the inflammatory situation.

The Dean Feb 5th 2013 2:10 am

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Originally Posted by LaLaLayla (Post 10479854)
As an ex-SWP member, I am shocked at this case. I am particularly shocked that people like Alex Callinicos allowed it to happen. But I do feel that the party has been doomed for some time. The world has changed and the SWP failed to address that change.

You're not serious????

The world has changed, has it? And at what point in time did the SWP reflect the world as it actually was??? :blink:

Millhouse Feb 5th 2013 2:42 am

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10525497)
You're not serious????

The world has changed, has it? And at what point in time did the SWP reflect the world as it actually was??? :blink:

:lol:

scot47 Feb 5th 2013 7:16 am

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The SWP were and are a cult and pretty loopy but for true sectarian craziness you had to esperience the SLL !

in comparison the CPGB were normal !

kimilseung Feb 5th 2013 7:29 am

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Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 10525770)
The SWP were and are a cult and pretty loopy but for true sectraian craziness you had to esperience the SLL !

in comparison the CPGB were normal !

SLL? (is that the WRP? their early name?)

The Spartacist League were the crazies.

Miss Anne Thrope Feb 5th 2013 7:32 am

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 10525783)
SLL?

The Spartacist League were the crazies.

It was absolutely essential that you post on this thread... We can stop now (thank god, er sorry, thank Leon).

Meow Feb 5th 2013 8:29 am

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For stories about the ridiculousness of the local organisation of the SWP read Mark Steel's Reason's to be Cheerful.

Norm_uk Feb 5th 2013 2:38 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 10525497)
You're not serious????

The world has changed, has it? And at what point in time did the SWP reflect the world as it actually was??? :blink:

Maybe it thinks it did like that other Socialist Workers Party...the National Socialist Workers Party. One single party anti-free market murderer's Capitalist is another's Jew or Gypsy...

On plus side I read 'Ex' member...

N.

scot47 Feb 11th 2013 11:36 am

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The Socialist Labour League (SLL) later became the WRP. Sectarian looneys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers...UK%29#The_Club

My experience was that all those splits from the 4th International were pretty crazy.


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