Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Sickening.
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I double checked it wasn't the enquirer then.
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
14 Years old?? WTF, if ever there was a place that should be wiped off the map...........
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
That's eye for an eye Sharia for you
which will one day will be implemented in UK ethnic areas such as Tower Hamlets if certain people have their way |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by saudiflares
(Post 10633094)
That's eye for an eye Sharia for you
which will one day will be implemented in UK ethnic areas such as Tower Hamlets if certain people have their way A government threatening acts of bodily harm against a person( a child at the time of the crime) in exchange for money ? Sickos. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Wasn't there a similar case in Iran where some bloke who blinded a girl with acid was to have his sight taken?
found the article. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-criminal-acid Majid Movahedi, 30, is scheduled to be rendered unconscious in Tehran's judiciary hospital at noon on Saturday while Ameneh Bahrami, his victim, drops acid in both his eyes Don't think she went ahead with it in the end |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by saudiflares
(Post 10633171)
Wasn't there a similar case in Iran where some bloke who blinded a girl with acid was to have his sight taken?
found the article. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-criminal-acid Majid Movahedi, 30, is scheduled to be rendered unconscious in Tehran's judiciary hospital at noon on Saturday while Ameneh Bahrami, his victim, drops acid in both his eyes Don't think she went ahead with it in the end |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10633179)
As barbaric, uncivilised and horrible as Saudi is I think this is maybe a step too far for them. Has it happened before or is it seen as a warning?
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by saudiflares
(Post 10633186)
Just as Tehran and Riyadh are modern metropolises
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by OleJanx
(Post 10633263)
I DO hope you're taking the piss. Necropolises maybe....
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by saudiflares
(Post 10633575)
Riyadh is building a metro and has a polis force...what's your point Janxey?
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
We call Riyadh "Mordor" and Jeddah "Mordor-On-Sea".
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by Yoohoo
(Post 10635090)
We call Riyadh "Mordor" and Jeddah "Mordor-On-Sea".
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by OleJanx
(Post 10633610)
Riyadh and Tehran might superficially appear to be verging on the mid to late 20th century, but theocratically they are still 500 years behind the rest of the world. After all, the only useful thing to come from Arabic is the word 'Alcohol'. Unfortunately that brought with it an element of fun, so the pious and hypocritical ones banned it. If it wasn't for the fact that they regard the Rolling Stones as degenerates, I am sure that both Saudi Arabia and Iran would have adopted 'Paint It Black' as their national anthems!
Chemistry, Algebra, Algorithm |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10635343)
Since you seem to be an enlightened person, perhaps you can add those words as well to your generous list of Arabic words (among others):
Chemistry, Algebra, Algorithm |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10635343)
Since you seem to be an enlightened person, perhaps you can add those words as well to your generous list of Arabic words (among others):
Chemistry, Algebra, Algorithm Sometimes, if we want to go crazy I say we can chuck in some algorithm's too. **** me, we are WILD. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10635813)
You've got a point here mate, I regularly find myself asking my pals if they're up for some Algebra on a Thursday night.
Sometimes, if we want to go crazy I say we can chuck in some algorithm's too. **** me, we are WILD. By the way, the word Giberish is derived from the word Algebra. It goes back to the time when Algebra was first introduced into Europe by the Moorish of Spain. That new concept of calculus didn't make any sense to the people at that time, for considering the numeral Zero as a number just like any other number was just incomprehensible |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10636852)
I think you are talking Giberish mate...
By the way, the word Giberish is derived from the word Algebra. It goes back to the time when Algebra was first introduced into Europe by the Moorish of Spain. That new concept of calculus didn't make any sense to the people at that time, for considering the numeral Zero as a number just like any other number was just incomprehensible It's meant to be from Irish descent. And I don't recall the Moors landing there or the Irish being well aware of Algebra in the 10th Century. However I guess you're meaning Jābir ibn Hayyān as he was known as Geber and talked in an esoteric code that only his followers/enlightened ones (read Islamists) could understand. If indeed the word gibberish does come from Geber then it only proves two things:- 1, He was talking a load of bollocks and 2, It had nothing directly to do with algebra. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by Kix
(Post 10636889)
Firstly it's gibberish and secondly what absolute bollocks you're talking.
It's meant to be from Irish descent. And I don't recall the Moors landing there or the Irish being well aware of Algebra in the 10th Century. However I guess you're meaning Jābir ibn Hayyān as he was known as Geber and talked in an esoteric code that only his followers/enlightened ones (read Islamists) could understand. If indeed the word gibberish does come from Geber then it only proves two things:- 1, He was talking a load of bollocks and 2, It had nothing directly to do with algebra. :amen: :goodpost: |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10636852)
I think you are talking Giberish mate...
By the way, the word Giberish is derived from the word Algebra. It goes back to the time when Algebra was first introduced into Europe by the Moorish of Spain. That new concept of calculus didn't make any sense to the people at that time, for considering the numeral Zero as a number just like any other number was just incomprehensible |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by NorthernLad
(Post 10633053)
It truly is a different civilisation. N. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by Norm_uk
(Post 10637567)
Most doctors from this region I know have not taken the Hippcratic Oath or anything similar...it's not on their radar.
It truly is a different civilisation. N. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10637570)
I object to the word 'civilisation'. People reading may get the wrong impression of the barbarians.
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by Norm_uk
(Post 10637567)
Most doctors from this region I know have not taken the Hippcratic Oath or anything similar...it's not on their radar.
It truly is a different civilisation. N. I would say, another truth from your wild imagination |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10639110)
I would say, another truth from your wild imagination
Is that civilised? |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by NorthernLad
(Post 10639432)
So how would you classify doctors who maim healthy people because an old book say's it's OK to?
Is that civilised? Quote me a case first so that I can comment on. Besides, Is your issue with why doctors are used to carry out court punishments or you are condemning the nature of the law itself? By the way, the Oath taken by doctors on graduation in that part of the world is something along the line “I will do my almost to serve God my religion and humanity and so on …” |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10641062)
Quote me a case first so that I can comment on. Besides, Is your issue with why doctors are used to carry out court punishments or you are condemning the nature of the law itself? By the way, the Oath taken by doctors on graduation in that part of the world is something along the line “I will do my almost to serve God my religion and humanity and so on …”
I have two issues: 1. Getting a doctor to paralyse a healthy human. 2. The adherence to laws from a book written hundreds of years ago. I should know better by now having seen this shit for years, but the way religion is twisted out here at times sickens me. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10641062)
Quote me a case first so that I can comment on. Besides, Is your issue with why doctors are used to carry out court punishments or you are condemning the nature of the law itself? By the way, the Oath taken by doctors on graduation in that part of the world is something along the line “I will do my almost to serve God my religion and humanity and so on …”
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10641624)
I couldn't give a monkeys about religion and god. His job is to serve humans that need medical help. If they found a doctor willing to administer the punishment he also should be strung up.
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by Kix
(Post 10641634)
:amen: :goodpost: :amen:
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
From the original article i did not see a mention of doctors carrying out the punishment.
It seems strange that from the original SAR2m - there is a remaining SAR1m which has been outstanding for 10 years. Perhaps the prisoners family does not want to pay the remaining money. As usual i believe there is a herd mentality, which does not look at facts without prejudice and forethought. Ignorance clouds the issues. The KSA law states that there is a punishment for a crime. I believe it is up to the victim to demand and push the law for an outcome. The victim has demanded full payment or the consequences. I have no problems with the sentence or with the method or the person who would carry it out. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by UKCityGent
(Post 10642326)
From the original article i did not see a mention of doctors carrying out the punishment.
It seems strange that from the original SAR2m - there is a remaining SAR1m which has been outstanding for 10 years. Perhaps the prisoners family does not want to pay the remaining money. As usual i believe there is a herd mentality, which does not look at facts without prejudice and forethought. Ignorance clouds the issues. The KSA law states that there is a punishment for a crime. I believe it is up to the victim to demand and push the law for an outcome. The victim has demanded full payment or the consequences. I have no problems with the sentence or with the method or the person who would carry it out. He would need to get someone to turn the pages. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 10642357)
So...how would that work then? Does the victim just look up 'professional properly qualified paralysers'' in the yellow pages then? Wait that's silly of me.
He would need to get someone to turn the pages. Your a silly billy aren't you. The prisoner is not paralyzed now. So he can probably do a jig as well and turn the pages of any book he desires, unlike the victim. Maybe logically the court would appoint would someone suitable - I would if the yellow pages in the US have 'professional properly qualified injectors" for death row ?? |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by UKCityGent
(Post 10642390)
Maybe he could post a thread here ?
Your a silly billy aren't you. The prisoner is not paralyzed now. So he can probably do a jig as well and turn the pages of any book he desires, unlike the victim. Maybe logically the court would appoint would someone suitable - I would if the yellow pages in the US have 'professional properly qualified injectors" for death row ?? |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by Eva
(Post 10642534)
I think you have misinterpreted my post.
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Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10639110)
I would say, another truth from your wild imagination
Thirteen years in the GCC and I am still hearing shocking anecdotes about medical practitioners - usually involving money and/or gross incompetence. If it was so great here why do all the locals with money find a western trained doctor or hop on a plane and go to Europe for their treatment? N. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by NorthernLad
(Post 10641177)
Doctors are there to help people, nobody can argue with that. Even someone as deluded as yourself.
I have two issues: 1. Getting a doctor to paralyse a healthy human. 2. The adherence to laws from a book written hundreds of years ago. I should know better by now having seen this shit for years, but the way religion is twisted out here at times sickens me. N. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Originally Posted by redShark
(Post 10641062)
Quote me a case first so that I can comment on. Besides, Is your issue with why doctors are used to carry out court punishments or you are condemning the nature of the law itself? By the way, the Oath taken by doctors on graduation in that part of the world is something along the line “I will do my almost to serve God my religion and humanity and so on …”
That is far more ethical than the oaths taken here by many regionally trained doctors. Religions are not equal and most have as many interpretations as followers on top of that. Best to leave that out and focus on ethics and nothing else for healers - to maim deliberately is to make a mockery of the medical profession and is telling of the kind of morality some people will follow when religion and tradition are brought up. Of course oath or not a person of conscience will not act to injure or maim for political, legal or religious considerations regardless of where they are from. N. |
Re: Surely this breaches the Hippocratic oath?
Mmmmmm The 'Green Ink' has certainly been out today!
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