Super Sunday
 

United v Liverpool
Arsenal v City

Predictions?

I'm going with 3-2 United and 1-2 City

"Title race could be over by end of the day" - Says Robbie Savage...he might be right, can anyone see City overcoming a 10point deficit if they lose and Utd win today?

Big games.

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Utd 3-0 L'pool
Arse 3-0 MCFC
However, write City off at your peril.
They could still give Manure a battle.

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What planet do you live on? Liverpool's biggest problem is that its players can't be arsed with 36 games of the year. The only time they put in any real effort and show what they are capable of is when they play the scum from Salford.

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So why have they given them a 45min headstart?

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3-1
4-2

( yes I am just randomly saying numbers :))

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Watched United/Liv in the Clubhouse at Zayed Sports City,Abu Dhabi.

Popped out at half time to watch Drogba, Kalou, Toure(s), Tiote and the rest of the Ivory Coast team training on one of the ZSC pitches. Very bright orange kit!!

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Well that was awful.

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No it wasn't, City won, unfortunately manure won. That wasn't good, wanted a draw there.

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Fascinating comments from ex-ref Dermot Gallagher in the post-match chat after Arsenal-v-Man-City.

Challenged by Curbishley about whether refs inform managers/players when they are given new directives on what to crack down on, he wandered off into a long monologue about the relationship between officials, managers and players; he gave some insights into the pre-match and even half-time environment; in particular, he revealed that this season's pet hate for refs is holding (hence the first sending off by Mike Dean, who Gallagher thinks is the best ref in England).

I like Dean (no relation ;)) too but he got the Kompany decision badly wrong in my view - a genuine challenge, one foot first, for the ball has surely got to be permitted, especially as he clearly actually played the ball. Gallagher sat on the fence a bit, but pointed out that VK had both feet off the ground even though it wasn't a two-footed challenge.

Interesting stuff.

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I enjoyed listening to old Dermot too. Although, despite his experience it is just still another bloke having his say (with some extra insight as you mention).

VK was unlucky, second leg was tucked up but his whole body was off the deck, he won the ball cleanly and I don't remember massive protests from the Arsenal players...still, if Mr Dean thinks that it's dangerous then he has to send him.

Wilshere has to be one of the most overrated young English players since Jenas. Stroppy, petulant little bellend.

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Wilshere? Yes - and did you notice as he lay on the ground, he still had the 'presence of mind' to mimic the waving of a card............? :frown:

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......... and something that pisses me off (that fans at every stadium do) - they cheer when a visiting opponent is shown a card. What exactly is the point of that?

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Yeah, I also noticed when Milner was chasing after the ball that Wilshere tried to drop his shoulder and block Milner running after Gibbs (I think). Tragic. I'd like to have seen Vermaelan sent off for a second yellow when he was hurling abuse. The one thing about refs I'd change is getting the yellow out quicker when players are screaming and shouting at them. All it needs is to be made clear with the captains in the tunnel and then on the field with a quick sharp warning of "back off and calm down or I'll book you".


Yeah, the 'ironic' cheers from Arsenal fans when they got free-kicks made me laugh too. Mike Dean had a reasonable game I think.

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Waaaay too much use of the yellow card in that game - the first red was deserved the second one maybe not, however, from where the ref was it looked like a two footed tackle.

Lots of silly tackling, Arsenal were awful. Didn't see too much diving, though the players signalling for a yellow card to the ref really annoys me.

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As opposed to all those under-rated young English players I suppose???

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I disagree there mate . Wilshere could be a total footballer , he has the ability to go forward and run with the ball like the great Paul Gascoigne .

Players who take one touch then beat players in the middle of the park have the ability to be world beaters .

England will never ever progress without this type of player , every great side has one .

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That's the key bit. He isn't there yet, isn't consistent, hasn't learnt to control himself, hasn't mastered the role.

He could be mega, but so could I or Tom Hundredstone or Cleverley or Zaha. None are there yet.

Think it's English media hype a year or two too soon.

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Nice to find a lady football fan who is more knowledgeable and can express herself more eloquently than most gents.:)

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Of course he isn't mate but i'll have him in my side ahead of Gareth Barry and his ilk .

Wilshere is a game winning player .

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I take your point.

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Barry is what makes city tick. If you watch him week in week out like I do as a city fan then you see how important he is to us. If you only catch the highlights then you wont really know he even played. Yes he is slow but his reading of the play is exemplary.

I think it says a lot about how Barry is regarded by his fellow players that both David Silva and Sergio Aguero both named his as their player of the season for last season.

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Barry is a one trick pony , too slow and too predictable . He was horrific in the last World Cup . In the game against Germany Muller and Ozil and Co treated the boy to a midfield masterclass . He also has the turning circle of the Ark Royal .

We're talking about midfield players who can change and influence games , there's no doubt the boy does a job for City but he's ordinary .

Raise the bar...

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And inevitable to find a gentleman football fan to patronise her for it...

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he wasn't fit at the World Cup.

I'm pretty sure he influenced the game against Reading last month when he scored a last minute winner. he allows the other players in the team to cause damage i.e. Silva

So let me get this right he does a job for the current Champions of England played in pretty much every game of that season yet he is ordinary??

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Um, except he isn't at the moment, is he? (Speaking as a bewildered Gooner).

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Yes he's ordinary , put your loyalties to one side mate .

Just another Premiership workhorse .

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we will agree to disagree then! If you watched him week in week out you would see how important he is to us. You can't have a team of Silva's, Nasri's, Mata's etc. You need workhorses.

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What about Milner?

I love him, but so many hate him.

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May sound like I have tinted glasses but Milner is a good player. He should get more game time than he does. Was MotM yesterday for me.

In the world cup he was played out of position and always covering for Johnson.

Rather than just sounding like I always praise City players that Dutch player united have isn't to bad.

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Now the Dutch player i'd pay money to go and see . I take your point that you need these players in a side to make the balance right .

My original point was that we need a different type of midfield player to unlock world class teams at the highest level .

Jack Wilshere is our best bet since Gazza and Scholes . Remember they called Didier Deschamps the water carrier but he didnt turn games .

The left that to a fella called Zinedene Zidane....;)

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Since Huddlestone has failed to live up to his promise of 3-4 years ago (Scamp calls him Hundredstone but Spurs fans once called him Hoddle'sson, remember?) it will probably be left to Cleverley to do the Scholes job - he is a bit hit-and-miss but that will disappear as he gains experience. Heck, he's even got Scholes to mentor him up there - he even runs like Scholes and has the same uncanny knack of 'right place at the right time' that PS was always known for. Wilshere might prove to be The Real Thing but if I was voting in a 'Current Young Player Most Likely To Win 100 Caps' poll, it would be Cleverly who got my vote.

And please don't mention Gascoigne in the same sentence as Scholes. Gifted beyond belief, Gazza, but nowhere near Scholes's influence......