Suicide bomb in Jeddah
Jul 4th 2016, 10:11 pm
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
There is a pernicious, disingenuous meme floating around. It goes: "ISIS have killed Muslims in Istanbul, Dhaka, Baghdad and now the holy city of Madina. So leave us alone, ISIS has nothing to do with Islam!"
1. What exactly is the point here? ISIS are still from among us Muslims. They still adopt a version of Islam that happens to be found in our scripture (eg: stone women, kill apostates, chop off limbs) to justify their actions.
2. Think how insulting we sound. 'They can't be Muslims because they're killing other Muslims'. As if killing non-Muslims would somehow make us accept they have something to do with Islam??
3. Religious extremism throughout the ages has targeted it's 'own' before others. That's the nature of trying to control people. And that's why extremists were always so concerned with 'heresy' and 'blasphemy'. The 'traitor' from within is always more dangerous, and thus always more strictly punished. The Prophet's own grand children were killed by Muslim extremists known as the khawarij who were reported to be better at reciting the Quran & more steadfast in prayer than anyone else.
4. The fact is, claiming that ISIS has *nothing* to do with Islam is as unhelpful and ignorant as saying ISIS *is* Islam per se. It's blindingly obvious they have *something* to do with Islam and everyone's laughing at us for trying to deny this.
Instead of whinging and making our first reaction about Muslim victimhood, again, why not try being part of the solution by working to challenge extremism?
Or are cartoons the only thing that make us come out in the streets with rage?
1. What exactly is the point here? ISIS are still from among us Muslims. They still adopt a version of Islam that happens to be found in our scripture (eg: stone women, kill apostates, chop off limbs) to justify their actions.
2. Think how insulting we sound. 'They can't be Muslims because they're killing other Muslims'. As if killing non-Muslims would somehow make us accept they have something to do with Islam??
3. Religious extremism throughout the ages has targeted it's 'own' before others. That's the nature of trying to control people. And that's why extremists were always so concerned with 'heresy' and 'blasphemy'. The 'traitor' from within is always more dangerous, and thus always more strictly punished. The Prophet's own grand children were killed by Muslim extremists known as the khawarij who were reported to be better at reciting the Quran & more steadfast in prayer than anyone else.
4. The fact is, claiming that ISIS has *nothing* to do with Islam is as unhelpful and ignorant as saying ISIS *is* Islam per se. It's blindingly obvious they have *something* to do with Islam and everyone's laughing at us for trying to deny this.
Instead of whinging and making our first reaction about Muslim victimhood, again, why not try being part of the solution by working to challenge extremism?
Or are cartoons the only thing that make us come out in the streets with rage?
Jul 5th 2016, 2:07 am
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
Don't worry about this one.
The one at Medina is much worse. Let's hope it's not 2005 again
The one at Medina is much worse. Let's hope it's not 2005 again
Jul 5th 2016, 7:55 am
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
These attacks are so awful. They are also deliberately antagonistic. It will be interesting what the response will be.
I don't know why but they feel slightly desperate, like they are p7shed into wild acts rather than the construction of a caliphate.
I don't know why but they feel slightly desperate, like they are p7shed into wild acts rather than the construction of a caliphate.
Jul 5th 2016, 9:38 am
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
yep
thats exactly it
desperate acts of desperate people
it was the same in pakistan when the Taliban were pushed into a corner they went on a rampage
when will these idiots learn that if you feed a snake it will always turn around and bite you
same with turkey and now same with saudi
evil will only beget more evil
ww3 already started in syria, we just dont know it yet
thats exactly it
desperate acts of desperate people
it was the same in pakistan when the Taliban were pushed into a corner they went on a rampage
when will these idiots learn that if you feed a snake it will always turn around and bite you
same with turkey and now same with saudi
evil will only beget more evil
ww3 already started in syria, we just dont know it yet
Jul 5th 2016, 9:41 am
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
You are smarter than this.
For WW3 to happen, we need nations allied together fighting each other. What we have at the moment is all nations allied together fighting ISIS/Al Q. This might be a global (or regional war) but its not WW3
For WW3 to happen, we need nations allied together fighting each other. What we have at the moment is all nations allied together fighting ISIS/Al Q. This might be a global (or regional war) but its not WW3
Jul 5th 2016, 9:47 am
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
oh? so the russian and iranian block are allied with us you think?
and the chinese and their economic warfare with the yanks?
in an age of super-information highways it sure is easy to keep a large majority misinformed
and the chinese and their economic warfare with the yanks?
in an age of super-information highways it sure is easy to keep a large majority misinformed
Jul 5th 2016, 10:24 am
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
There is a pernicious, disingenuous meme floating around. It goes: "ISIS have killed Muslims in Istanbul, Dhaka, Baghdad and now the holy city of Madina. So leave us alone, ISIS has nothing to do with Islam!"
1. What exactly is the point here? ISIS are still from among us Muslims. They still adopt a version of Islam that happens to be found in our scripture (eg: stone women, kill apostates, chop off limbs) to justify their actions.
2. Think how insulting we sound. 'They can't be Muslims because they're killing other Muslims'. As if killing non-Muslims would somehow make us accept they have something to do with Islam??
3. Religious extremism throughout the ages has targeted it's 'own' before others. That's the nature of trying to control people. And that's why extremists were always so concerned with 'heresy' and 'blasphemy'. The 'traitor' from within is always more dangerous, and thus always more strictly punished. The Prophet's own grand children were killed by Muslim extremists known as the khawarij who were reported to be better at reciting the Quran & more steadfast in prayer than anyone else.
4. The fact is, claiming that ISIS has *nothing* to do with Islam is as unhelpful and ignorant as saying ISIS *is* Islam per se. It's blindingly obvious they have *something* to do with Islam and everyone's laughing at us for trying to deny this.
Instead of whinging and making our first reaction about Muslim victimhood, again, why not try being part of the solution by working to challenge extremism?
Or are cartoons the only thing that make us come out in the streets with rage?
1. What exactly is the point here? ISIS are still from among us Muslims. They still adopt a version of Islam that happens to be found in our scripture (eg: stone women, kill apostates, chop off limbs) to justify their actions.
2. Think how insulting we sound. 'They can't be Muslims because they're killing other Muslims'. As if killing non-Muslims would somehow make us accept they have something to do with Islam??
3. Religious extremism throughout the ages has targeted it's 'own' before others. That's the nature of trying to control people. And that's why extremists were always so concerned with 'heresy' and 'blasphemy'. The 'traitor' from within is always more dangerous, and thus always more strictly punished. The Prophet's own grand children were killed by Muslim extremists known as the khawarij who were reported to be better at reciting the Quran & more steadfast in prayer than anyone else.
4. The fact is, claiming that ISIS has *nothing* to do with Islam is as unhelpful and ignorant as saying ISIS *is* Islam per se. It's blindingly obvious they have *something* to do with Islam and everyone's laughing at us for trying to deny this.
Instead of whinging and making our first reaction about Muslim victimhood, again, why not try being part of the solution by working to challenge extremism?
Or are cartoons the only thing that make us come out in the streets with rage?
but controversial at the same time.....those who go around saying ISIS are not muslim and hence nothing to do with Islam in any shape or form, is because according to them, 'their' Islam does not represent these warped teachings.
Jul 5th 2016, 12:08 pm
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
I imagine you wearing a tin hat as you type this in a room with metal coat hangers hanging from the ceiling.
Jul 5th 2016, 4:04 pm
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
What are the chances of these hapless suicide bombers having been organised by the Saudi Mukhabarat ? A good way to channel the anger of dissidents. Set up a government-run terrorist squad. Have I read too much Conrad ?
Jul 5th 2016, 10:55 pm
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
Btw, THIS is why there is division in Islam right now. Because of basturds like this who are allowed a voice :
https://www.facebook.com/SufiMusicOfficial/videos/1032898220114083/
Jul 6th 2016, 6:50 am
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Re: Suicide bomb in Jeddah
There is a pernicious, disingenuous meme floating around. It goes: "ISIS have killed Muslims in Istanbul, Dhaka, Baghdad and now the holy city of Madina. So leave us alone, ISIS has nothing to do with Islam!"
1. What exactly is the point here? ISIS are still from among us Muslims. They still adopt a version of Islam that happens to be found in our scripture (eg: stone women, kill apostates, chop off limbs) to justify their actions.
2. Think how insulting we sound. 'They can't be Muslims because they're killing other Muslims'. As if killing non-Muslims would somehow make us accept they have something to do with Islam??
3. Religious extremism throughout the ages has targeted it's 'own' before others. That's the nature of trying to control people. And that's why extremists were always so concerned with 'heresy' and 'blasphemy'. The 'traitor' from within is always more dangerous, and thus always more strictly punished. The Prophet's own grand children were killed by Muslim extremists known as the khawarij who were reported to be better at reciting the Quran & more steadfast in prayer than anyone else.
4. The fact is, claiming that ISIS has *nothing* to do with Islam is as unhelpful and ignorant as saying ISIS *is* Islam per se. It's blindingly obvious they have *something* to do with Islam and everyone's laughing at us for trying to deny this.
Instead of whinging and making our first reaction about Muslim victimhood, again, why not try being part of the solution by working to challenge extremism?
Or are cartoons the only thing that make us come out in the streets with rage?
1. What exactly is the point here? ISIS are still from among us Muslims. They still adopt a version of Islam that happens to be found in our scripture (eg: stone women, kill apostates, chop off limbs) to justify their actions.
2. Think how insulting we sound. 'They can't be Muslims because they're killing other Muslims'. As if killing non-Muslims would somehow make us accept they have something to do with Islam??
3. Religious extremism throughout the ages has targeted it's 'own' before others. That's the nature of trying to control people. And that's why extremists were always so concerned with 'heresy' and 'blasphemy'. The 'traitor' from within is always more dangerous, and thus always more strictly punished. The Prophet's own grand children were killed by Muslim extremists known as the khawarij who were reported to be better at reciting the Quran & more steadfast in prayer than anyone else.
4. The fact is, claiming that ISIS has *nothing* to do with Islam is as unhelpful and ignorant as saying ISIS *is* Islam per se. It's blindingly obvious they have *something* to do with Islam and everyone's laughing at us for trying to deny this.
Instead of whinging and making our first reaction about Muslim victimhood, again, why not try being part of the solution by working to challenge extremism?
Or are cartoons the only thing that make us come out in the streets with rage?
